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[0:00] <diederik> captain_: it's better to just state your question; then you'll find out if someone can answer that
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[0:26] <captain_> thanks, I will do that.
[0:27] <captain_> Can anyone recommend an operating system which is conceptually small (as small as possible): I only need process and memory management and some drivers (USB, Video and Sound)
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[0:28] <diederik> small as in size on disk?
[0:29] <captain_> that would be a plus as would be low memory footprint
[0:29] <captain_> and a simple API for the core functionalities
[0:29] <captain_> really small in every aspect :)
[0:30] <diederik> for a minimal raspbian system you could look at https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
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[0:32] <captain_> that's interesting, thank you
[0:32] <diederik> yw
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[0:34] <captain_> is this is a debian derivative?
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[0:35] <diederik> raspbian is debian sources compiled for the raspberry pi
[0:35] <diederik> http://raspbian.org/
[0:35] <captain_> oh, i see
[0:35] <captain_> silly me
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[0:39] <captain_> I think it will suit my needs, but if you do not mind
[0:39] <captain_> me asking
[0:40] <captain_> what I had in mind was an operating system based on an exokernel
[0:41] <diederik> no idea what exokernel is ... apart from the guess it's some kind of kernel
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[0:45] <shiftplusone> captain_: take a look at riscos
[0:45] <shiftplusone> (but I'd stick with raspbian)
[0:47] <captain_> thanks, I will take a look.
[0:47] <captain_> why would you stick to raspbian?
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[0:50] <diederik> Probably because it's by far the best supported os for the RPi
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[0:54] <captain_> I see
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[0:57] <shiftplusone> I'd say because it's scalable.
[0:57] <shiftplusone> With riscos you're cutting out a lot of functionality
[0:57] <captain_> I am a bit puzzled about the space requirement though.
[0:57] <shiftplusone> with linux, you can scale it as your application requires
[0:58] <captain_> so for raspbian you need at least 512MB "disk" sace?
[0:58] <captain_> space
[0:58] <captain_> or am i mistaken?
[0:58] <diederik> correct, although 640MB disk space is more likely (with the defaults)
[0:58] <shiftplusone> sounds about right
[0:58] <shiftplusone> There's also buildroot
[1:01] <captain_> that looks handy
[1:02] <captain_> what, do you estimate, is the absolute minimum disk (and memory) space requirement for having the bare essentials?
[1:03] <captain_> meaning drivers only, process and memory management, no other tools, except maybe a shell and a C compiler
[1:04] <captain_> (regarding raspbian)
[1:05] <shiftplusone> Try it and see
[1:05] <shiftplusone> it sounds like you just want the linux kernel and busybox, which is what buildroot can give you
[1:06] <captain_> right
[1:06] <captain_> sounds good, thank you for your help
[1:06] <shiftplusone> maybe also take a look at arch, I suspect its base install is smaller than raspbian's
[1:06] <shiftplusone> (archlinuxarm)
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[1:11] <diederik> with the net-installer the system uses about 350MB after the (minimal) install, but it needs extra space during the installation
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[1:12] <diederik> but with just a kernel and busybox it would be way smaller ;)
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[1:14] <captain_> I will give it a try :-)
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[1:17] <captain_> i should get some sleep, thanks again, and good night! :)
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[1:41] <cstk421> pi is stuck booting here
[1:42] <cstk421> 7.457098] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2): re-mounted. Opts: (null)
[1:42] <cstk421> any suggestions ? tried changing the cmdline.txt to no avail and i would rather not blow away the partition
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[4:09] <cstk421_> setup isc-dhcp-server having issues. im seeing discover and offer but no client request and server ack after that
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[4:26] <diederik> how can I find out with which compiler version a kernel is compiled?
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[4:29] <diederik> found it: cat /proc/version
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[6:29] <zGrr> moin :)
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[11:06] <RusAlex> hi everyone
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[11:06] <RusAlex> I bought my first raspberrypi
[11:08] <BCMM> RusAlex: congrats! what are you going to do with it?
[11:09] <RusAlex> I want to have a portable fullhd player at first
[11:09] <RusAlex> where I do not have to bring laptop if I only want to show some video on conference
[11:16] <BCMM> RusAlex: a lot of people use those USB external phone battery thingies as portable power supplies
[11:18] <RusAlex> yes. I will need external battery
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[11:18] <RusAlex> but I found that omxplayer not so good with increase/decrease speed, one step forward shortcuts
[11:19] <BCMM> xbmc maybe?
[11:22] <RusAlex> let me check
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[11:24] <RusAlex> seems it has no this options too.
[11:24] <RusAlex> mplayer has greate functionality, but it does not support hardware playback ...
[11:24] <RusAlex> so I think it wont work well on raspbian
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[11:26] <BCMM> mplayer *does* do hardware accelleration, but i think still not on the pi
[11:27] <RusAlex> you know better
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[11:28] <BCMM> last time i looked, the pi only supports openmax for video decode, while most desktop computers do VAAPI or VDPAU
[11:28] <BCMM> (different APIs)
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[11:31] <RusAlex> I havent even tried to play any video on my device. Just installed raspbian yesterday
[11:31] <RusAlex> Im a basketball consultant. And we may have games recored fullhd video. And sometimes we can view them for education purposes
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[12:00] <elfuego> how can I allow ssh connection from computer on my network using osmc?
[12:00] <elfuego> I see that osmc is using connman, is there a way to configure it to allow incoming ssh connections?
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[13:01] <tuvok> have anybody a jessie image for me? P1b+
[13:02] <lordievader> You can just upgrade, for as far as I know there is no image yet.
[13:02] <tuvok> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ this image will not run on my pi+
[13:03] <tuvok> i will boot they boot but not to the config
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[13:03] <tuvok> i will make down the pi restart
[13:03] <tuvok> and than come the menp
[13:03] <tuvok> menü
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[13:23] <lordievader> Does it boot or not?
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[15:32] <rc0r> hi
[15:34] <rc0r> is there a way to set a static ip for my rpi via boot cmdline?
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> not that I'm aware of ...
[15:41] <rc0r> there is! :)
[15:41] <rc0r> just append ip=a.b.c.d to /boot/cmdline.txt
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> and when the networking init service starts how do you stop it taking over?
[15:42] <rc0r> fortunately that didn't happen
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[16:48] <fred1807> is it possible to rename the root user ?
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[16:50] <shiftplusone> fred1807: bad idea is bad
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[17:04] <johnnyfive> fred1807| under what use-case would you do that? We may be able to tell you what you should do instead
[17:05] <tuvok> lordievader yes it boot
[17:06] <fred1807> to prevent root ssh brute force, at the same time I only have root user, and I love working with root user, and I have sudo this sudo that
[17:06] <fred1807> *I dont like to sudo this sudo that
[17:07] <shiftplusone> disable root login over ssh
[17:07] <shiftplusone> at least plain password login
[17:08] <shiftplusone> and use keys
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[18:05] <MrObvious> Hey
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[18:24] <MrObvious> How do I go about making a circuit that makes an electric pulse that lasts for 0.5 sec every 60 seconds
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[18:49] <inomo> What are the archive names for mirrordirector.raspbian.org? Is it the same as on normal debian, so if I wanted backports for jessie it'd be jessie-backports?
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[18:51] <tuvok> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ jessie main contrib non-free rpi <- this?
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[18:52] <inomo> Dunno what the rpi archive is
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[18:58] <diederik> inomo: there is no jessie-backports (or any backports) for the raspberry pi archives
[18:58] <diederik> rpi is a archive section name, which is available on the raspbian mirrors, but (indeed) not in the debian mirrors
[18:59] <tuvok> hi diederik i have install a very old image ..the newer image will not run 2014-12-24-wheezy-raspbian.img <- i make at the moment a jessie upgrade
[18:59] <inomo> Yet the repos contain stretch packages, how would one access those?
[19:00] <diederik> just like the wheezy or jessie archives are in your sources.list, just now with stretch as the release name
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[19:02] <diederik> iow: deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ stretch main contrib non-free rpi
[19:04] <inomo> Right, thanks
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[19:51] <aurel_> hi
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[19:51] <Guest44527> does someone knows how to disable auto loading of rfkill and cfg80211?
[19:51] <ukuester> hey!
[19:52] <Guest44527> I have no wireless connection and never requested their loading at boot
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[19:53] <Guest44527> but I don't understand where it is loaded from
[19:53] <ukuester> what does /etc/rc.local say?
[19:54] <ukuester> I'm also guessing here, but there might be an autostart statement there
[19:54] <Guest44527> # Print the IP address _IP=$(hostname -I) || true if [ "$_IP" ]; then printf "My IP address is %s\n" "$_IP" fi exit 0
[19:54] <Guest44527> only that
[19:54] <Guest44527> ans some comments qt the beginning
[19:54] <diederik> Guest44527: lsmod | grep rfkill
[19:55] <Guest44527> it is loaded ;)
[19:55] <Guest44527> I checked in /etc/modules
[19:55] <diederik> "rfkill 20480 4 bluetooth" -> bluetooth caused the loading of rfkill
[19:56] <Guest44527> hi @diederik
[19:57] <Guest44527> I did not install anything related to bluetooth
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[19:57] <Guest44527> I only made an rpi-update
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[19:57] <ukuester> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/rfkill what if you add something like "rfkill block all" to your autostart statements
[19:57] <diederik> post your output of 'lsmod | grep rfkill'
[19:58] <Guest44527> rfkill 16659 1 cfg80211
[19:58] <diederik> that tells you that rfkill was loaded by cfg80211
[19:58] <diederik> now do 'lsmod | grep cfg80211'
[19:59] <Guest44527> cfg80211 420690 0
[19:59] <Guest44527> rfkill 16659 1 cfg80211
[19:59] <diederik> ok, not sure what loaded cfg80211 then, you could try blacklisting that
[20:02] <ukuester> good luck with that, dude!
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[20:03] <Guest44527> thank you
[20:03] <Guest44527> I was looking for the blacklist file
[20:04] <Guest44527> but it seems it has moved ^^
[20:09] <diederik> does anyone know how Make selects the compiler to use?
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[20:10] <Guest44527> @diederik @ukuester that did the trick, thank you :)
[20:12] <methuzla> diederik per whatever is specified in makefile
[20:12] <diederik> methuzla: afaics it's not specified in the makefile
[20:13] <diederik> but 'gcc --version' reports 4.9, but it compiles using 4.8
[20:14] <diederik> if it helps, it's this makefile: https://github.com/Grawp/rtl8812au_rtl8821au/blob/master/Makefile
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[20:21] <methuzla> diederik try running make with the option to just print the commands, but not execute (can't remember what that is)
[20:21] <diederik> if I change the command to 'make CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.9' then it does use 4.9
[20:24] <tuvok> hmm
[20:24] <tuvok> diederik have you a idea where i can get the information to my desktop? http://i.imgur.com/jsmMuckl.png
[20:24] <diederik> I'm currently using this https://paste.debian.net/313278/ to print out some 'debugging' info
[20:25] <tuvok> hm
[20:25] <tuvok> is this info for me or for a other user? :D
[20:25] <diederik> you mean you like to have that info on your desktop too?
[20:25] <tuvok> yes
[20:25] <Guest44527> Did you try 'sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/gcc gcc /usr/bin/gcc-4.9 90'
[20:25] <diederik> tuvok: (mostly) for methuzla
[20:25] <tuvok> ah ok :D
[20:26] <tuvok> woah my dist-upgrade needs many time :D
[20:26] <Guest44527> This should map gcc to 4.9 version
[20:26] <diederik> tuvok: I do know it, but just can't recall its name right now
[20:26] <tuvok> ok
[20:27] <tuvok> this is also a nice info desktop http://i.imgur.com/e72eSmb.png
[20:27] <diederik> Guest44527: the 'problem' is that gcc is already mapped to gcc-4.9, but it still uses gcc-4.8
[20:27] <Guest44527> hum
[20:28] <diederik> the only possible explanation I've been able to come up with is 'cat /proc/version' shows that the kernel was compiled with gcc-4.8
[20:28] <diederik> tuvok: it's the same 'program' as the other pic
[20:29] <diederik> You can do cool stuff with it; I've used in quite a while ago myself
[20:29] <tuvok> ok
[20:29] <tuvok> and what must i do to get this?
[20:29] <Guest44527> @diederik sorry, no idea...
[20:29] <tuvok> this was nice to see my lan or wlan ip or many more :)
[20:29] <diederik> thanks for thinking along :)
[20:32] <diederik> tuvok: conky
[20:35] <diederik> https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky
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[20:36] <tuvok> conky hmhmhm
[20:36] <tuvok> gives no deb? apt-get?
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[20:37] <tuvok> https://jeffskinnerbox.wordpress.com/2012/11/02/conky-for-the-raspberry-pi/
[20:37] <tuvok> this?
[20:37] <tuvok> apt-get install conky-std
[20:37] <tuvok> hm
[20:38] <diederik> there are various conky packages (of which conky-std is one): https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=jessie&keywords=conky
[20:39] <tuvok> hmm
[20:39] <tuvok> conky-all - highly configurable system monitor (all features enabled)
[20:40] <tuvok> äh diederik you have yesterday say kodi 15.1 is on jessie yes?
[20:40] <diederik> no, on stretch
[20:40] <tuvok> ah ok
[20:41] <tuvok> than i must update my jessie system to stretch :D
[20:41] <tuvok> i think i need the most time in the night :D
[20:41] <tuvok> my dist-upgrade to jessie is not finish :D
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[22:15] <Vulcano> ��
[22:16] <Vulcano> ��
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[22:17] <Vulcano> ��
[22:17] <msev-> Do u guys maybe know of any interesting podcasts regarding the raspberry pi's
[22:18] <Vulcano> ��
[22:18] <Vulcano> ��
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[22:19] <Vulcano> ��
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[22:44] <JessicaRN> hi folks, anyone have time to help with a network bridging issue? I have a local lan with a router. my pi is plugged into the internet port of the router as eth0. I have a wlan0 connecting to my hotspot. eth0 is static ip. wlan0 is dhcp.
[22:44] <JessicaRN> i want to configure bridging thru the pi to my hotspot
[22:45] <JessicaRN> ive created a bridge using brctl
[22:45] <JessicaRN> i need help configuring /etc/network/interfaces
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[23:56] <armycook84> Hi guys. Is there any python library out there plays 3gp audio files? writing an android app that sends over recorded voice message from the phone to RPI
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