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[0:41] <Skotty> http://tinychat.com/worldwidewub
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[1:20] <Skotty> In the criminal justice system. Sexually based offenses are considered especially anus. In Jew York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious lelonies are members of an elite squad known as #8chan. These are their stories .
[1:21] <methuzla> #wrongchan
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[2:16] <lotsoftuna> Hey, can I ask general RaspPi questions here?
[2:16] <lotsoftuna> My grandmother's PC just died and needs a replacement, but I'm not sure a RPi is a good fit
[2:17] <lotsoftuna> She needs like, a proper on/off button, and something similar to Lubuntu
[2:17] <lotsoftuna> or I suppose, just youtube, email, wine emulation of hoyle card games, audio streaming
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[2:18] <lotsoftuna> raspberrypi
[2:18] <lotsoftuna> Okay, apparently there's an actual channel.. I'll leave now.
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[7:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[8:46] <luc4> Hello! What toolchain should I use for crossbuilding for jessie? Is this the one I should use? https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/tree/master/arm-bcm2708
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[9:11] <Lina> o/
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[9:16] <diederik> luc4: I'd go for the gcc-linaro-XXX
[9:16] <luc4> diederik: but this one? https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/tree/master/arm-bcm2708/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-raspbian-x64
[9:17] <luc4> diederik: or is there something more up to date?
[9:17] <diederik> if you're on a 64 bit system then yes, take the one that ends with x64
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[9:20] <luc4> diederik: what about 4.9? http://www.linaro.org/downloads
[9:23] <diederik> You can probably build/make your own build toolchain ... if that's what you want
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[9:24] <luc4> diederik: ok, so it is not strictly necessary that the toolchain used to build the system is the same I use, correct? I will probably need to provide also some lib for the dynamic linker but it should work, is this correct?
[9:25] <diederik> I have no idea. But if you're confident in your abilities to solve issues that may arise, nothing is stopping you (from trying)
[9:26] <luc4> diederik: oh no, just curious. If that is the toolchain used to build raspbian I’ve better use that one.
[9:28] <diederik> According to popcornmix it is ... and afaik he knows: https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/issues/38#issuecomment-127401269
[9:29] <luc4> diederik: awesome, thanks!
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[10:09] <knicklux> hey there, I'm folowing the freedombone tutorial on a raspberry pi and ipv6 and got a problem after running the following command: apt-get install build-essential automake git pkg-config autoconf libtool libssl-dev. Now whenever a programm asks for input from stdin whether I'm using zsh or bash it's automagically sent into background and stopped. Did anyone experience this problem before? What could I do to fix it?
[10:11] <luc4> Hello! I’m running an important test on my pi and cannot reboot. I just noticed that plugging HDMI makes nothing appear. It probably booted without hdmi plugged in. Is there any tool to “force” hdmi signal without rebooting?
[10:14] <knicklux> I'm using serial cables to connect to them ;) They're handy and reliable and you don't need to setup the tv and get a keyboard
[10:14] <knicklux> are you running stock raspbian?
[10:14] <knicklux> nevermind ^^
[10:16] <knicklux> Connecting via serial cable works, even when your box has not been rebooted and from there on you can run yor tests via cli. just make sure you didn't disable serial connection access
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[10:27] <diederik> knicklux: your problems sounds odd. Did you get an error msg?
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[10:28] <diederik> if you got that issue through a serial cable, does it happen also when connected through ssh?
[10:29] <knicklux> diederik, no :/ and it's the second time it happened. this time i used the latest version of raspbian. on bash i can resume the jobs with fg %1.
[10:29] <knicklux> also through ssh :/
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[10:31] <diederik> ok. When I use vim via serial (screen) then it on ly uses 1/4 of the screen. I have to maximize and restore to get normal behavior again; no problems through ssh though
[10:31] <knicklux> it doesn't seem to be related to the type of connection, i'll later try via keyboard+tv
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[10:32] <diederik> I think so too since you got the behavior through serial and ssh
[10:32] <diederik> what is freedombone btw?
[10:32] <diederik> and how did you install your raspbian system?
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[10:34] <knicklux> i downloaded the image three days ago and then dd it to the sd.
[10:34] <knicklux> https://github.com/bashrc/freedombone/blob/master/doc/EN/beaglebone.txt
[10:35] <knicklux> it's written for the bbb, but it's not too different from the pi
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[10:36] <diederik> so it's a complete GUI-less system then?
[10:37] <knicklux> i switched to boot into cli in raspi-config, lxde and co. should however still be installed
[10:38] <diederik> If you have no need for those, then I can recommend another project to try
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[10:38] <diederik> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
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[10:44] <diederik> (specify 'release=jessie' in installer-config.txt to install jessie directly)
[10:44] <knicklux> thanks! :) my next pi will get it ;) however I'm .....tedious of starting over again. I'd really like to have a workaround for the issue :/
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[10:45] <diederik> I have no clue about that. I've never seen that behavior before and I have install those tools a number of times
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[10:48] <knicklux> strange :/
[10:48] <diederik> indeed
[10:49] <knicklux> could the environment vars be related to it?
[10:49] <knicklux> http://pastebin.com/CuTRMAc4
[10:49] <diederik> I have to say though that I pretty much always use the net installer ;)
[10:49] <knicklux> ok :)
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[10:49] <knicklux> what do XDG_SESSION_ID and SHLVL ?
[10:51] <diederik> XDG is related to freedesktop.org; no idea what SHLVL is (my guess is 'shell level' but still don't know what that means)
[10:52] <diederik> I have those too on my system though
[10:52] <knicklux> SHLVL
[10:52] <knicklux> Incremented by one each time a new instance of Bash is started. This is intended to be a count of how deeply your Bash shells are nested.
[10:52] <diederik> ah ok
[10:52] <knicklux> (quoted from elsewhere)
[10:53] <knicklux> ;)
[10:54] <diederik> I have 'TERM=xterm' btw (through ssh): https://paste.debian.net/314758/
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[10:59] <knicklux> i'll have a look what i get via ssh. got xterm too
[11:02] <diederik> I also get vt102 through serial
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[11:13] <knicklux> i backed up my configs and i'll start over with the net install :) htnaks for the hint :)
[11:14] <knicklux> *thanks
[11:16] <diederik> good luck :)
[11:20] <knicklux> thanks!!! :) i'll need it ^^
[11:21] <diederik> don't forget 'release=jessie' and you also want to specify 'libpam-systemd' in the 'packages' variable in installer-config.txt
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[12:46] <knicklux> diederik, i wrote the raspbian-ua-netinst to the sd and plugged it in...... will the serial console come up with a login once it's finished? (i did not adjust cmdline.txt)
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[12:47] <diederik> it will come up, but iirc it's not configured as the default, so you won't see all the boot messages
[12:48] <diederik> you can change that by modifying /boot/cmdline.txt and place 'console=tty1' before the other/serial console parameter
[12:49] <knicklux> ok, thanks
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[12:51] <diederik> if you had adjusted cmdline.txt after writing the image to sd, you would've been able to follow the whole installation process through the serial console
[12:51] <knicklux> sounds like it's worth it :)
[12:51] <diederik> it's what I do all the time ;)
[12:52] <knicklux> next time i'll read the install instructions b-e-f-o-r-e pluggin it in :D
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[12:55] <diederik> it is actually documented too; nice surprise :)
[12:57] <knicklux> :) what file system has been used for the boot partition?
[12:58] <diederik> FAT32
[13:06] <jakllsch> well, FAT in any case
[13:07] <knicklux> i can't mount it :/
[13:07] <knicklux> mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt
[13:07] <knicklux> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mmcblk0p1,
[13:07] <knicklux> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[13:07] <knicklux> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[13:07] <knicklux> dmesg | tail or so.
[13:07] <knicklux> sha1sum raspbian-ua-netinst-v1.0.7.img.xz
[13:07] <knicklux> 19b42995218cbae0ce0a8f4fc629ef25c08c7f45 raspbian-ua-netinst-v1.0.7.img.xz
[13:07] <knicklux> could someone also calculate a sha1 ?
[13:08] <diederik> same as you
[13:08] <diederik> where does it fail?
[13:09] <knicklux> i sent the output of mount above, how can i found out more?
[13:10] <knicklux> debugfs /dev/mmcblk0p1
[13:10] <knicklux> debugfs 1.42.13 (17-May-2015)
[13:10] <knicklux> debugfs:
[13:10] <diederik> fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0
[13:10] <knicklux> /dev/mmcblk0p1: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem
[13:10] <diederik> can you mount p2?
[13:11] <knicklux> http://pastebin.com/MyA2A3gr
[13:11] <knicklux> p2 worked
[13:12] <diederik> what the hell? The size should've been 128MB
[13:12] <knicklux> # mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 mnt
[13:12] <diederik> and you should've had 2 partitions
[13:14] <knicklux> i used the xzcat command from the readme.md, i'll try unarchiving it and then writing it to the sd
[13:14] <diederik> do you have a /var/log/raspbian-ua-netinst.log on p2? If so, can you pastebin it?
[13:14] <diederik> I'll use the xzcat method all the time
[13:15] <knicklux> i already overwrote it, but i'll plug it in for a while again and then paste it
[13:15] <diederik> something weird is going on. Your fdisk output only showed 1 partition ... but you were able to mount p2 ...
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[13:16] <knicklux> how can i unarchive raspbian-ua-netinst-v1.0.7.img.xz ?
[13:16] <diederik> this is what I get
[13:16] <diederik> unxz
[13:16] <diederik> this is what I get: https://paste.debian.net/314790/
[13:17] <knicklux> worked :) i'll try it as a loop device
[13:17] <diederik> (after installation)
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[13:21] <knicklux> i think my image is broken, it shows the same outpu in fdisk for the image as above for the sd card
[13:21] <diederik> the installer image is only 1 partition
[13:22] <knicklux> https://paste.debian.net/314791/
[13:22] <knicklux> ok
[13:22] <knicklux> as for now it's only the installer image, but how do i modify the option for serial?
[13:22] <knicklux> *on the installer image?
[13:22] <diederik> on the installed system, the 1st partition is fat32 and the 2nd ext4 (unless you change it)
[13:23] <knicklux> i think the system didn't have enough time to install
[13:23] <diederik> write the image to sd; mount the sdcard and modify cmdline.txt
[13:24] <diederik> on the mounted sdcard you can/should also create an installer-config.txt with 'release=jessie' and 'packages=libpam-systemd' (and others you want)
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[13:24] <diederik> cmdline="dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 elevator=deadline"
[13:25] <diederik> ^^ add that line to installer-config.txt too, then serial is the default from the start
[13:27] <diederik> So, put this in installer-config.txt on the mounted sdcard: https://paste.debian.net/314792/
[13:28] <knicklux> thanks, hoefully mounting works
[13:30] <diederik> on my kde system I get a popup after writing the image which mounts and opens the filemanager automatically. Guess I'm spoiled ;)
[13:31] <knicklux> I use KDE too :P
[13:31] <knicklux> but without automounting stuff, however the popup shows :)
[13:31] <diederik> when you click on the popup the automounting should work (and open dolphin)
[13:32] <knicklux> at the moment i "reset" the sd card by overwriting it with /dev/urandom. better to start at a known state ;)
[13:32] <knicklux> for me it didn't work :/
[13:33] <diederik> xzcat writes a full image, so it shouldn't be needed
[13:34] <diederik> you can also extract it first with 'unxz' and then dd the .img file
[13:36] <knicklux> sometimes brfs gets confused with old superblocks, won't hurt to overwrite them :)
[13:36] <knicklux> *btrfs
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[13:39] <diederik> you can use btrfs as root fs too if you like. No idea how good that works though
[13:40] <knicklux> ah! i forgot it was using ext4 per default ^^ had some trouble with btrfs long time ago
[13:40] <diederik> add 'rootfstype=btrfs' to the installer-config.txt
[13:40] <knicklux> cool :)
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[14:37] <knicklux> diederik, i could mount it successfully :) had to reinsert the card so that kde forgets about the old partition table ;)
[14:37] <diederik> ok, good :)
[14:40] <knicklux> what shoudl i do with "consoleblank=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200"?
[14:40] <knicklux> is the order of options important?
[14:41] <diederik> the order is not important
[14:42] <diederik> I don't see tty1 in there, so you won't have output on a normal monitor, but on the serial console which is probably what you want
[14:42] <knicklux> i already removed the tty1 :) yes :)
[14:43] <knicklux> so let's give it a try
[14:43] <diederik> that's the trick to (only) use the serial console
[14:44] <knicklux> the uotput on the serial looks good :)
[14:45] <knicklux> it's already retrieving the files, thanks for your support! :)
[14:45] <diederik> yw :)
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[15:49] <knicklux> diederik, it works smoothly even after installing the packages :)
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[17:22] <diederik> knicklux: nice :)
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[19:09] <icemanbp> Hola :)
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[19:36] <luc4> Hello! What is the toolchain I should use to cross build for jessie? I used this https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/tree/master/arm-bcm2708/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-raspbian-x64 but it returns some errors linking to icu so it is not probably the correct one.
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[19:40] <luc4> This is the error I get: libicui18n.so: undefined reference to `__cxa_throw_bad_array_new_length@CXXABI_1.3.8’.
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[20:12] <Turiddru> hi all!
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[20:17] <hecatae> hi Turiddru
[20:18] <Turiddru> hi hecatae!
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[20:19] <Turiddru> can you help me to troubleshoot a raspberrypi's problem?
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[21:16] <methuzla> Turiddru just ask your question
[21:17] <methuzla> oh..quit...
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[21:23] <luc4_mobile> hello! no one who knows what toolchain I should use when cross building for raspbian jessie?
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