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[0:47] <Rubafix> Hello
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[0:49] <Rubafix> I added a new user to my raspberry to avoid using root all the time. However this user lacks all the feature of the cli like autocomplete and command history. How do you create new user with the same features?
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[0:54] <klem> Is this the autocomplete of which you speak? http://crsouza.com/2008/07/enabling-bash-autocompletion-on-debian/
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[0:57] <Rubafix> Maybe, I'm talking about the basic tab autocomplete feature you usually get on a terminal
[0:59] <Rubafix> The whole terminal work weirdly when I log in with this new user, there is probably a step missing but no tutorial I've mention anything about it.
[0:59] <Rubafix> Read*
[1:00] <Rubafix> Using up arrow won't even bring back the last command
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[1:05] <klem> is your newuser a sudoer?
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[1:20] <Rubafix> Klem: nope sudo is not even installed
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[1:26] <klem> Raspbian image?
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[1:50] <Smither> I know this is gonna spark argument, but... I am trying emacs out on recomendation of my lecturer, so i though, ok i'll try it then if i don't like at least i know i don't. So I have opened a file edited and closed using C-x C-c but i still have an emacs job running according to ps command. What is it doing? I thougt C-c was meant to properly close it and C-z was meant to suspend it... Am i completely misunderstanding
[1:50] <Smither> something?
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[2:03] <Chocolate_Chip> Smither, there is an emacs channel, #emacs
[2:05] <Smither> I found it. thanks Chocolate_Chip
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[2:09] <Rubafix> Klem yeah but I used the net install instead the bloated one
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[2:12] <klem> Rubafix, you have me stumped, not that it's hard to do, but I don't even know where to look for an explanation of your symptoms.
[2:14] <D4rkmatter> HTPC
[2:14] <Rubafix> I made a user using useradd, then changed its password. Added the new user to sshd and then logged with that user after reloading sshd.
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[4:44] <nova> What is the preferred method of disabling screen blanking and enabling sleep/suspend of the monitor for both the GUI and the console?
[4:44] <nova> DPMS?
[4:45] <nova> installing xscreensaver seems like overkill for the task at hand, especially since I don't want a screensaver.
[4:46] <nova> It installs like 40 packages!
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[8:43] <xtal256> Hi all. I'm trying to build the DWA-131 WiFi driver.
[8:44] <xtal256> I installed kernel sources using rpi-source, but still get errors running "make"
[8:44] <xtal256> Now it's saying:
[8:44] <xtal256> No rule to make target 'driver'.
[8:44] <xtal256> recipe for target 'modules' failed
[8:44] <xtal256> What else do I need to do?
[8:44] <xtal256> I'm on 4.1.12-v7+
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[10:02] <nova> do you have kernel headers?
[10:02] <nova> apt-get install build-dep
[10:03] <nova> sorry no
[10:03] <nova> apt-get install build-essential
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[10:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[12:53] <Martijn> Hi raspbian friends - i want to add my usb wifi dongle (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) to raspbian, but it's still not working. In the past it was working on my raspbian installation, but I forgot how I did that. Does anyone have any idea?
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[13:16] <trismegistis> Hi everyone! First time here. I was wondering if anyone thinks this is possible:
[13:16] <trismegistis> setting up a rpi to be a wifi/access point that uses an existing networks inet to connect to another network instead of LAN. Any idea where I could learn about a proxy/vpn/access point?
[13:17] <trismegistis> Basically like a remote vpn access point rather than a wifi extender, a remote wifi vpn type of device
[13:19] <trismegistis> Well, I found something: http://www.securewirelessworks.com/RAP-3.asp?gclid=CjwKEAiAgvyxBRDmuviAj67g-XQSJABTLMcHaIG1ZAt1gtsVozaoOwvdBFLrf0cOH8QYYcymosQ5nBoCUqTw_wcB - Looks amazingly expensive, maybe I'll compete with some of you guys for the market one day :P
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[17:44] <jh5> hey (I know this is more of a pi-top question) is there away to check the battery status from commandline? the classical tools like upower, acpi ibam do not work and /sys/class/power_supply is empty
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[18:24] <Shuush> I might just want to manually fix this by editing the sources and doing dist-ugprade, but ua-netinst grabbed me wheezy by default where I expected Jessie. Anyone who got any tips about the easiest way to load Jessie on the RPI
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[18:26] <harrycheese> Hello... Can someone running raspbian jessie be able to help me with what's there in their /etc/apt/sources.list file
[18:26] <diederik> Shuush: specify 'release=jessie' in 'installer-config.txt'
[18:26] <Shuush> diederik You think it will be sufficient? It is from May and is 70 commits behind too.
[18:26] <harrycheese> I am looking to install weaved service on my rpi but I am running osmc
[18:27] <diederik> Shuush: yes, it'll work
[18:27] <Shuush> I used to run Arch, even now they have it ready compiled 3 Nov.
[18:27] <Shuush> Its just that the updates arent good for the RPI SD card
[18:27] <Shuush> at all
[18:28] <diederik> it will install the latest versions of the packages as they are available now
[18:29] <diederik> it retrieves the packages to install from the internet while it is installing the system, thus always using the latest versions
[18:29] <Shuush> Well, since the installation of wheezy went smooth would it be okay to just add release=jessie and no other options to have it install the default.
[18:32] <diederik> not entirely sure what you mean, but if you change /boot/installer-config.txt and then 'mv /boot/config-reinstall.txt /boot/config.txt' and reboot, it'll reinstall the system but then with jessie
[18:32] <diederik> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst#reinstalling-or-replacing-an-existing-system
[18:38] <Shuush> Thank you
[18:39] <diederik> yw
[18:39] <Shuush> I always wondered, too, why the raspbian site itself look so outdated.
[18:39] <Shuush> Compared to foundation and this git page
[18:39] <diederik> because no one updates it :-P
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[19:11] <kolo351> hi, i have a problem with my raspi model b+. I have a usb sound card "C-Media Electronicts (Audio Adapter)". I need only microfon. I'm using multimon-ng. I think, pulseaudio not choose my usb sound card, only integrated.
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[19:13] <kolo351> i tried use pavucontrol, but did not help....
[19:16] <kolo351> when i start "pulseaudio -D" green diode flashes but only 3-4 seconds(i think may be that this means that a sound card is using
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[19:17] <kolo351> and after 3-4 seconds diode again lights without flash
[19:17] <kolo351> anyone helps me?
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[19:21] <Rubafix> Can anyone walk me to the creation of users on raspbian. The users created with useradd are a mess. When logged as those users by ssh, the terminal lacks all usual features like command history and tab autocompletion.
[19:22] <klem> Rubafix, do you have a spare SD card, or micro SD card and have you tried doing the net install a 2nd time?
[19:23] <klem> Kolo351 is your card in this list? http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
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[19:24] <kolo351> yes, C-Media
[19:24] <klem> when you type 'lsusb' in terminal does it show up?
[19:25] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi /home $ lsusb
[19:25] <kolo351> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter
[19:25] <kolo351> yes.
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[19:26] <Rubafix> klem : not yet, but I'll have a class 10 in the week. But I doubt reinstalling change anything, I mean this is the only issue I am having and I suppose I did something wrong, like forgot to add some priviledge or whatever. As it is netinstall I probably lack a tons of usual tools
[19:26] <klem> what does 'amixer' return
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[19:27] <kolo351> klem : http://paste.scsys.co.uk/paste
[19:27] <kolo351> sry
[19:27] <kolo351> http://paste.scsys.co.uk/501169
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[19:31] <klem> looks like the audio outputs are off. check this http://computers.tutsplus.com/articles/using-a-usb-audio-device-with-a-raspberry-pi--mac-55876 on editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[19:33] <kolo351> klem: ok, but i don't have alsa-base.conf. I have alsa.conf located in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
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[19:34] <kolo351> and conf file it looks completely different ... ;/
[19:34] <vagrantc> Rubafix: use "adduser" instead of useradd
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[19:35] <vagrantc> no guarantees, but adduser does a few more things out-of-the-box that you have to explicitly specify with useradd
[19:39] <kolo351> klem ?
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[19:41] <klem> trying to find ref..
[19:41] <kolo351> may be i should install old version? :D
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[19:45] <noobe1> CarlFK: Hi, I'm here to chat about using standard webcam with raspberry pi 1 and gstreamer gst-launch-1.0
[19:45] <klem> kolo I'm reading here: http://blog.scphillips.com/posts/2013/01/sound-configuration-on-raspberry-pi-with-alsa/ and wondering what you get when you type aplay -l Incidentally as Rubafix and attest I have no business offering anyone help, I'm a noob who hangs out in here to learn
[19:46] <kolo351> klem aplay -l or aplay -L?
[19:46] <klem> aplay -l will tell you if alsa recognizes the card as an audio card.....
[19:46] <kolo351> ;p ok
[19:46] <klem> sorry aplay -L though lowercase worked for me
[19:46] <CarlFK> what is the command to launch the setup menu that I normally get on first boot of 2015-05-05-raspbian-wheezy.img ?
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[19:48] <kolo351> haha klem i do both: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/501170
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[19:54] <klem> ok 'amixer controls' find the numid of the channels for the C Media device then set 'amixer cset numid=? on'
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[19:56] <klem> because you're all set, it's just muted....notice the [off] on your outputs here; http://paste.scsys.co.uk/501169
[19:57] [kapot PING]
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[19:59] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi /home/qwer/mul $ amixer controls
[19:59] <kolo351> numid=4,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Switch'
[19:59] <kolo351> numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
[19:59] <kolo351> numid=2,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Switch'
[19:59] <kolo351> numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume'
[19:59] <kolo351> i have to find numid? ...
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[20:00] <klem> amixer cset numid=3 on then check amixer again
[20:00] <silidan> hi, can i boot a raspberry pi 2 with an raspberry 1 sd card?
[20:00] <noobe1> CarlFK: Is the command you looking for "sudo raspi-config"? It brings up "Raspberry Pi Software Configuration Too" ui.
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[20:02] <kolo351> klem: pi@raspberrypi /home/qwer/mul $ amixer cset numid=3 on
[20:02] <kolo351> numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
[20:02] <kolo351> ; type=INTEGER,access=rw------,values=2,min=0,max=65536,step=1
[20:02] <kolo351> : values=0,0
[20:03] <kolo351> and amixer: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/501171
[20:03] <CarlFK> noobe1: yep. "Enable Boot to Desktop/Scratch ... │Console Text console, requiring login (default) "
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[20:03] <noobe1> Just did that...will reboot it. Thanks.
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[20:04] <kolo351> yyyy klem, good?
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[20:07] <klem> no, bad.......you had it at 93% and muted, now its turned down to 0 and still muted
[20:08] <Rubafix> vagrantc: thanks a lot mate, that was it, I used the low level version.
[20:09] <klem> try 'amixer cset numid=3 93%
[20:09] <kolo351> ok, but still muted
[20:09] <kolo351> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
[20:09] <kolo351> Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
[20:09] <kolo351> Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[20:09] <kolo351> Limits: Playback 0 - 65536
[20:09] <kolo351> Mono:
[20:09] <kolo351> Front Left: Playback 60949 [93%] [off]
[20:09] <kolo351> Front Right: Playback 60949 [93%] [off]
[20:10] <Rubafix> vagrantc: I noticed by the way that it automatically create a group with that user, so for a user 'foo' I get a new group 'foo', wouldn't it be more clean if I created a user group and add all actual user to it?
[20:13] * vagrantc shrugs
[20:13] <klem> try 'amixer cset numid=4 on'
[20:14] <kolo351> pass. Working
[20:14] <kolo351> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
[20:14] <kolo351> Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
[20:14] <kolo351> Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[20:14] <kolo351> Limits: Playback 0 - 65536
[20:14] <kolo351> Mono:
[20:14] <kolo351> Front Left: Playback 53948 [82%] [on]
[20:14] <kolo351> Front Right: Playback 53948 [82%] [on]
[20:14] <klem> ok so 3 is for setting volume 4 is for mute
[20:14] <klem> Now, is it the right device?
[20:17] <noobe1> anyone know why when I hit | (pipe key) I get ~ in raspberry pi terminal??
[20:17] <klem> wrong keyboard type. if you type a few different symbols you may find more messed up
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[20:19] <klem> kolo, I should/ve read down further 'alsamixer' in terminal presents an easier (almost graphical) way
[20:20] <kolo351> klem, i'm using pulseaudio, and you know... when i start pulseaudio deamon, then PulseAudio is a sound card
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[20:21] <kolo351> and pulseaudio(probably) choose sound card
[20:22] <kolo351> i think pulseaudio choose an internal sound card
[20:22] <noobe1> I don't think I had this problem with older versions of pi os...I'm trying to see if there some configurtion that will fix this
[20:22] <kolo351> not my C-media
[20:23] <kolo351> multimon-ng require pulseaudio on, so i must have this
[20:25] <klem> have you tried alsamixer in terminal? Every other command we've used is an alsa command
[20:27] <kolo351> yes, and now default sound card is PulseAudio
[20:27] <klem> FF6
[20:28] <kolo351> yes, i have a C-media and i chose it.
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[20:28] <klem> and???
[20:28] <kolo351> and what? XD
[20:29] <klem> are you getting the audio out from the device you desire.....I'm not sure if I need to keep reading on the interaction between alsa and pulseaudio.
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[20:31] <kolo351> klem, i need only microphone. i don't need any audio
[20:31] <klem> DOH!
[20:31] <klem> well that's umid1 and numid2
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[20:33] <klem> or F3 in alsamixer
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[20:35] <kolo351> i'm on ssh and i can't type F3, i don't know why, how to make this with commend line?
[20:35] <CarlFK> noobe1: LOL - I just got "unable to flush /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i after padding: No space left on device" cuz I never did the "expand fs" from that raspi-config :p
[20:35] <kolo351> what i have to type?
[20:35] <klem> however your current amixer output indicates its on. unless its still the wrong sound card (in which case its on, but there isn't anything to put your input into
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[20:37] <klem> if you start alsamixer does it show the proper sound card selected?
[20:37] <kolo351> yes, Card: PulseAudio
[20:37] <kolo351> Chip: PulseAudio
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[20:41] <kolo351> klem i have to know, how change default sound card which is choose by pulseaudio
[20:41] <kolo351> do you know how do this?
[20:41] <klem> yeah me too, searching
[20:41] <silidan> hi, ok so a raspberry pi 2 cannot simply boot with a raspberry 1 sd card (with raspbian installed), do you know of a quick way to make it work or do i have to do a from scratch install?
[20:42] <diederik> silidan: how did you install your system?
[20:43] <silidan> diederik: i used noobs to install raspbian on the pi1
[20:43] <diederik> then it should be possible ... do you have a /boot/kernel7.img file?That's the kernel the Pi 2 needs
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[20:44] <silidan> diederik: i will check
[20:44] <diederik> I don't have any experience with noobs though; dunno if that could interfere
[20:45] <kolo351> klem i found "pavucontrol" but i don't know how to execute commands in command line... you know... i don't know how to type, in startx it is easy and it's working but as soon as i turn off pavucontrol... It is the same...
[20:45] <kolo351> as before switching
[20:46] <klem> try 'amixer -d Set'
[20:46] <kolo351> pavucontrol working but only then when only when it is switched on
[20:47] <kolo351> sorry xD pavucontrol working only when it is switched on*
[20:47] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi /home/qwer/mul $ amixer -d Set
[20:47] <kolo351> amixer: Unknown command 'Set'...
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[20:47] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi /home/qwer/mul $ amixer -d set
[20:47] <kolo351> Specify a scontrol identifier: 'name',index
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[20:48] <klem> try 'amixer -D Set' I have a problem with upper/lower case
[20:49] <silidan> diederik: yes there is a kernel7.img
[20:50] <diederik> then it's probably sth special with noobs of which I don't know anything
[20:50] <kolo351> klem, this may be what we're looking
[20:50] <kolo351> http://askubuntu.com/questions/14077/how-can-i-change-the-default-audio-device-from-command-line
[20:51] <kolo351> pacmd set-default-source "SOURCENAME"
[20:51] <CarlFK> whopps, wrong tab, sorry
[20:51] <kolo351> but i don't know what type "SOURCENAME"
[20:52] <klem> type pacmd list -sinks
[20:52] <kolo351> 2 sinks
[20:53] <kolo351> klem http://paste.scsys.co.uk/501173
[20:53] <klem> one is the default chip and the other hopefully C Media
[20:53] <kolo351> index 0
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[20:54] <klem> yep
[20:55] <kolo351> and how to choose index 0? LD
[20:55] <silidan> hi, does anyone know how i can make a raspberry 1 raspbian sd card boot on a raspberry pi 2 ?
[20:55] <kolo351> type name?
[20:56] <kolo351> klem: pacmd set-default-source <alsa_output.usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-stereo>?
[20:56] <kolo351> with <>?
[20:56] <klem> sure, why waste all that typing
[20:56] <klem> umm no. without <>
[20:57] <kolo351> ok.
[20:57] <klem> worst case scenerio, it doesn't recognize the name and we try a different name
[20:58] <kolo351> ups
[20:58] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi /home/qwer/mul $ pacmd set-default-source alsa_output.usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-stereo
[20:58] <kolo351> Source alsa_output.usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-stereo does not exist.
[20:59] <klem> try it from usb-08c_C-Media...
[21:00] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi /home/qwer/mul $ pacmd set-default-source usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-stereo
[21:00] <kolo351> Source usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-stereo does not exist.
[21:00] <kolo351> moment...
[21:00] <kolo351> klem, look:
[21:00] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi /home/qwer/mul $ pacmd list-sources | grep -e device.string -e 'name:'
[21:00] <kolo351> name: <alsa_output.usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-stereo.monitor>
[21:00] <kolo351> device.string = "1"
[21:00] <kolo351> name: <alsa_input.usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-mono>
[21:00] <kolo351> device.string = "hw:1"
[21:00] <kolo351> name: <alsa_output.0.analog-stereo.monitor>
[21:00] <kolo351> device.string = "0"
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[21:02] <kolo351> klem look, may be it is? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples#Set_default_input_sources
[21:03] <klem> OK, well I believe the bottom is your default on-board output. the top is the C-Media output and the Middle is your input....which is set as pacmd set-default=sink
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[21:04] <klem> so to set C-Media as default input "set-default-source alsa_input.usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-mono"
[21:05] <klem> because you don't care about the output. Right? you just want to be able to record over that input
[21:05] <kolo351> yes
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[21:06] <klem> actually the full command would be "pacmd set-default-source alsa_input.usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-mono" or "pacmd set-default-sink alsa_input.usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-mono"
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[21:07] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi /home/qwer/mul $ pacmd set-default-source alsa_input.usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00-Set.analog-mono
[21:07] <klem> 'sink' and 'source' mean the same thing in this case I guess
[21:07] <kolo351> is OK because return nothing
[21:07] <klem> No error back?
[21:07] <kolo351> no.
[21:07] <klem> WooHoo!
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[21:08] <klem> so, how do you test it?
[21:08] <kolo351> moment.
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[21:10] <kolo351> to my sound card i have connect microphone, and i will try decode dtmf with my telephone
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[21:16] <kolo351> klem....
[21:16] <kolo351> WORKING
[21:16] <kolo351> REALLY REALLY THANKS
[21:16] <kolo351> you're the best
[21:19] <klem> no prob, thanks for all I've learned along the way
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[21:23] <noobe1> klem: earlier you said I have wrong keyboard type, what type should I set it to? I don't see Microsoft Keyboard 400 in list. I really need the "|" key to work. Can I force key in terminal with CTRL+SHIFT+<key> doesn't seem to work.
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[21:27] <klem> Yeah, that p|pe is kind'a handy
[21:29] <noobe1> klem: I'm trying different keyboard types from raspi-config list...so far nothing
[21:29] <klem> let me see.......gotta reboot but it's generally the default US English for me.....but saying that it took me 3 tries to get it right after setting it up wrong the first time
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[21:32] <noobe1> I'm trying generic keyboard 101 layout ..rebooting now...for lang I only see UK English, maybe because I'm in Canada. Just rebooted still no luck.
[21:33] <klem> I'm currently using Dell 101 keyboard, English (US) and 'default for this keyboard layout' with no compose key and I don't terminate Xserver
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[21:36] <noobe1> klem: Fixed!!! Problem was the lingo (or language) as soon as I forced it to English US (from English UK) and rebooted it worked just fine. Thanks!!
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[21:38] <klem> no prob....yeah I keep forgetting the Pi is actually a British product, so if you don't change the defaults for the keyboard you have to go back and do......I guess that's what I get for being an egostistical American
[21:38] <klem> ^who can't spell
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[21:48] <kolo351> klem ?
[21:48] <klem> Yes?
[21:49] <kolo351> I have a scirpt which start scripts after system start
[21:49] <kolo351> start() {
[21:49] <kolo351> pulseaudio -D
[21:49] <kolo351> smsd
[21:49] <kolo351> tclsh /home/qwer/mul/rt.tcl &
[21:49] <kolo351> tclsh /home/qwer/mul/start.tcl &
[21:49] <kolo351> }
[21:49] <kolo351> all it's okay but pulseaudio doesn't start...
[21:50] <kolo351> when I type pulseaudio -D works, but in script not
[21:50] <kolo351> i check this and
[21:50] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/startall start
[21:50] <kolo351> W: [pulseaudio] main.c: This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified).
[21:50] <kolo351> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[21:51] <kolo351> i think it is caused by super-user privigles
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[21:51] <kolo351> how i can repare this?
[21:52] <kolo351> repair*
[21:54] <vagrantc> specify --system ...
[21:54] <kolo351> for example? :)
[21:58] <kolo351> pulseaudio -D --system and?
[21:58] <kolo351> vagrantc?
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[22:00] <kolo351> ok i know xD
[22:00] <kolo351> thanks
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[22:45] <CarlFK> if=2015-09-24-raspbian-jessie.img how do I open a term window without a mouse ?
[22:48] <klem> windows key opens menu then navigate with arrow keys
[22:48] <kolo351> klem?
[22:48] <kolo351> i still have the same problem
[22:48] <kolo351> pi@raspberrypi /home/qwer/mul $ sudo /etc/init.d/startall start
[22:48] <kolo351> W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, but --disallow-exit not set!
[22:48] <kolo351> W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, but --disallow-module-loading not set!
[22:48] <kolo351> N: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, forcibly disabling SHM mode!
[22:48] <kolo351> N: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, forcibly disabling exit idle time!
[22:48] <kolo351> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[22:48] <klem> yes? Sorry I missed that last question my phone has been ringing at bad times
[22:49] <kolo351> in start script pulseaudio doesn't run...
[22:50] <kolo351> but when i type works, without problems...
[22:50] <CarlFK> klem: thanks.
[22:51] <kolo351> start() {
[22:51] <kolo351> <kolo351> pulseaudio -D --system
[22:51] <kolo351> <kolo351> smsd
[22:51] <kolo351> <kolo351> tclsh /home/qwer/mul/rt.tcl &
[22:51] <kolo351> <kolo351> tclsh /home/qwer/mul/start.tcl &
[22:51] <kolo351> <kolo351> }
[22:52] <kolo351> when i type in command line as root, works fine
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[22:52] <klem> you need to run it from something other than init.d
[22:53] <kolo351> it means?
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[22:54] <kolo351> klem this is auto script after system reboot or start
[22:56] <klem> you're invoking the script from init.d correct?
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[22:57] <kolo351> yesss
[22:57] <kolo351> ...
[22:58] <klem> do you have any users set other than the default Pi users?
[22:59] <kolo351> no
[23:00] <klem> is this script inside init.d or is it a separate file?
[23:00] <klem> try su pi -c '/etc/init.d/whatever you called your script'
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[23:01] <klem> inside init.d to invoke the script as user pi which is not the same as root
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[23:03] <kolo352> klem?
[23:03] <klem> yes?
[23:03] <kolo352> sorry, you write something?
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[23:04] <klem> try "su pi -c '/etc/init.d/whatever you called your script'""
[23:07] <kolo352> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ su pi -c '/etc/init.d/startall'
[23:07] <kolo352> Password:
[23:07] <kolo352> Usage: /etc/init.d/startall {start|stop|restart}
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[23:10] <kolo352> klem?
[23:10] <klem> well you'd have to add 'start' to the end of the line because you've defined it as a function 'start'
[23:11] <klem> the password thing surprises me a bit, did you get that while rebooting?
[23:11] <kolo352> password to log?
[23:11] <kolo352> in?
[23:11] <klem> yeah
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[23:12] <kolo352> no
[23:12] <kolo352> yyyy yes
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[23:13] <kolo352> ssh
[23:13] <kolo352> putty
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[23:14] <kolo352> smsd and scripts tclsh /home/qwer/mul/rt.tcl &
[23:14] <kolo352> tclsh /home/qwer/mul/start.tcl &
[23:14] <kolo352> works after start system, only pulseaudio no.
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[23:15] <klem> is it still because of the not wanting to run as root, or perhaps something else?
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[23:15] <klem> any indication?
[23:16] <kolo352> i don't know...
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[23:17] <CarlFK> 2015-09-24-raspbian-jessie.img ssh in, sudo apt-get --assume-yes install python-software-properties ... it seems stuck on Unpacking python3-apt (0.9.3.12) so I open a term window on the gui, type top/n, cursor dropped to the next line, no top.
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[23:20] <kolo352> klem how to make that pulseaudio run after every reboot, start?
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[23:21] <klem> it should run by default its part of the raspbian packages or so I thought
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[23:23] <kolo352> so, what i have to do?
[23:23] <klem> wait my bad, its not part of raspbian, its part of Ubuntu
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[23:24] <klem> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=11124 looks like step #4
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[23:33] <klem> I bet you can set all your default values for pulseaudio in /etc/default/pulseaudio
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[23:38] <kolo352> klem in etc/default i don't have pulseaudio
[23:38] <kolo352> i have deamon.conf
[23:38] <kolo352> client.conf
[23:39] <kolo352> system.pa i defaults and both without option boot on start
[23:39] <kolo352> deamon i client too
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[23:43] <klem> create a /etc/default/pulseaudio put 1 line in it "PULSEAUDIO_SYSTEM_START=1" and see what happens
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[23:44] <kolo352> without ""?
[23:45] <klem> yeah
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[23:47] <kolo352> klem, not working...
[23:51] <klem> hrrm I can't even get pulse on my Pi without changing repositories
[23:52] <klem> oh wait spelled it wrong
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[23:58] <klem> having to run apt-get update
[23:59] <klem> these are handy little boxes, but still not snappy. I get spoiled by throw-away dual core machines I've been finding recently.
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