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[7:55] -kornbluth.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[7:55] -kornbluth.freenode.net- *** Checking Ident
[7:55] -kornbluth.freenode.net- *** No Ident response
[7:55] -kornbluth.freenode.net- *** Found your hostname
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[7:55] * Topic is 'Raspbian -- Debian hard float for the Raspberry Pi: http://www.raspbian.org/ Logs at: http://plugwash.raspbian.org/logs/ looking for mirrors in asia, africa and south america'
[7:55] * Set by plugwash!~plugwash@2001:5c0:1400:a::1a3 on Mon Dec 10 22:15:29 UTC 2012
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[7:56] <newbe> the site was down for some time
[7:56] <newbe> what happend?
[7:57] <at0m> afaik, the bot wasn't in the channel but the site was fine
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[7:57] <at0m> just no new logs were added there
[7:58] <newbe> but the repository was down, too
[7:58] <newbe> i couldn't apt-get anything for the last half an hour
[7:58] <at0m> these are unrelated
[7:58] <at0m> the bot's been out for a week or 2
[7:58] <newbe> well, whatever, good that it is up and running again
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[7:59] <newbe> since then i get this message:
[7:59] <newbe> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
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[7:59] <at0m> hm new repo keys?
[7:59] <newbe> should i be worried?
[8:00] <newbe> jep
[8:00] <at0m> plugwash: ^
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[8:02] <BLaCK_Assassin> what is the best hotspot manager for rpi??
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[8:03] <at0m> running an access point or connecting to one?
[8:03] <at0m> if you're running one, hostapd
[8:04] <at0m> to connect to AP's, there's different tools, from iwconfig to networkmanager and wicd
[8:05] <BLaCK_Assassin> hostapd not working for me.
[8:05] <at0m> then check your bridge and hostapd config
[8:05] <BLaCK_Assassin> it says illegal command or something.
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[8:07] <at0m> be more specific, or http://www.danbishop.org/2011/12/11/using-hostapd-to-add-wireless-access-point-capabilities-to-an-ubuntu-server/
[8:08] <BLaCK_Assassin> at0m: ooh. it works i reinstall it and it works txn.
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[8:10] <BLaCK_Assassin> at0m: do you play with rpi gpio??
[8:10] <at0m> BLaCK_Assassin: i don't
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[8:12] <BLaCK_Assassin> at0m: i found some tool called wiringPi i think its cool u should try it.
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[8:37] <zGrr> moin :)
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[10:02] <gordonDrogon> at0m, strictly speaking, wiringPi is a library (for C, C++ and BASIC programs) - the gpio program that comes with it is the 'tool' ...
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[10:07] <plugwash> at0m, not sure what is causing your authentication errors, keys haven't changed
[10:07] <plugwash> at0m, as for the bot it's on the same sever as the repo so a server crash will take both down, sometimes the bot falls over by itself though
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[10:11] <at0m> i'm not having auth errors, and i'm not using gpio.
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[10:18] <at0m> newbe: repo's keys are fine for me
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[10:19] <at0m> do you have raspbian-archive-keyring installed?
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[10:24] <newbe> thanks for checking at0m
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[10:24] <newbe> isnt this installed by default on the newest raspbian?
[10:25] <at0m> i'd guess so, yes
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[11:18] <shinigami_> minicom settings changed to default on exiting minicom
[11:18] <shinigami_> it is not saved
[11:19] <Tachyon`> I think you have to actually save the settings in minicom
[11:19] <Tachyon`> don't think it happens automatically
[11:19] <Tachyon`> (although some years since I've needed it)
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[11:33] <shinigami_> Tried saving but reset when exit minicom
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[11:57] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
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[12:21] <lordievader> shinigami__: Can we keep the conversation in channel? And to answer your question, no.
[12:23] <shinigami__> lordievader: tried asking but no reply
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[12:24] <lordievader> Then no one knows, or they are not online.
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[15:06] <DeveloppSoft> Hey, I heard raspbian pi2 is still based on armel with some pieces of armhf is it real or not ?
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[15:08] <thurstylark> DeveloppSoft: are you asking if it can run on both Pi 1 and 2?
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[15:09] <DeveloppSoft> Nop I am asking about the arch ^^
[15:09] <DeveloppSoft> Pi 1 & 2 are armhf but with different versions I think
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[15:12] <thurstylark> DeveloppSoft: Ahh. No idea, then.
[15:12] <DeveloppSoft> Ok, no problem
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[15:18] <mase-tech> Hey peps, I need info about the SDA und SCL pin ( Are these normal gpio pins ? )
[15:19] <mase-tech> Its pin 3 and 5
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[16:05] <Sycrid> Hi, I need some help performing an auto launch browser on Raspbian. I have configured crontab to launch at reboot, it runs my script but the browser (midori) does not launch. If I run the file myself it will work fine. Does anyone have any ideas?
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[16:09] <mase-tech> softPwmCreate(13,0,1000);
[16:09] <mase-tech> softPwmWrite(13,50);
[16:09] <mase-tech> usleep(500);
[16:09] <mase-tech> softPwmWrite(13,0);
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[16:09] <mase-tech> something wrong with this code ?
[16:09] <mase-tech> I cann t get the pins to life with wiring pi
[16:10] <mase-tech> i test with a python scrpit there it works
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[17:09] <gordonDrogon> mase-tech, they are gpio pins, but they have on-board 1K8 pull-up resistors to 3.3v.
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> mase-tech, do not use 1000 as the default range in softPwmCreate. Start with 100 and see how that works for you.
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[17:27] <mase-tech> the signal coming is very weak
[17:27] <mase-tech> i have only a dmm to measuer
[17:27] <mase-tech> i think i need a ozi
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[17:39] <mase-tech> ok I am a step further motor works now but does not stop
[17:42] <mase-tech> hoe long is usleep(500) ?
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[17:48] <DK-HaZe> I have a bit problems with getting vsftpd to work, I cannot connect to the box like the user/pass is wrong. As I have set it up with rsa shouldnt I have a rsa file on the station I connect to the ftp from ?
[17:52] <mase-tech> usleep(microsecound) -> usleeo(2 000 000) -> 2 secound !!!!!!!!!!! DOH
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[18:13] <MarkG1234> Hi, silly question time (perhaps), my RPI2 seems stuck on Debian 8.0 and not getting 8.2
[18:13] <MarkG1234> I have tried apt-get distupgrade
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[18:19] <diederik> MarkG1234: the package that would update that (base-files) hasn't been updated afaik.
[18:20] <diederik> So if you're fully up-to-date you are running 8.2, it just doesn't show it
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[21:38] -leguin.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
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[21:38] -leguin.freenode.net- *** No Ident response
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[21:39] * Topic is 'Raspbian -- Debian hard float for the Raspberry Pi: http://www.raspbian.org/ Logs at: http://plugwash.raspbian.org/logs/ looking for mirrors in asia, africa and south america'
[21:39] * Set by plugwash!~plugwash@2001:5c0:1400:a::1a3 on Mon Dec 10 22:15:29 UTC 2012
[21:39] <anunnaki> remove the lock file ?
[21:40] <anunnaki> that is rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock i did for other activities in my past but nothing like an upgrade.. not sure of the consequences of removing that lock file
[21:42] <plugwash> just removing the lock file is probablly not the best idea
[21:43] <plugwash> does there appear to be any activity on the pi? is the SD card activity light flashing, does anything show up in top?
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[21:58] <TrapdoorSmoke> Hello Can Chromium Browser 45 be recompiled to run on raspbian
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[22:36] <BLaCK_Assassin> I am using alpa wireless adapter plug into rpi and its taking to much power any tip to make it stable
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[22:47] <diederik> plugwash: to what status should a raspbian bug report be set when there is no reaction? Apparently launchpad doesn't have a 'close' option
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[22:50] <plugwash> hmm, example?
[22:50] <diederik> and what's the plan regarding a new firmware release?
[22:50] <diederik> https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian/+bug/1025302
[22:51] <diederik> that one is still fairly recent, but I stopped going through bug reports when I didn't know what to do when no response would come
[22:54] <diederik> others I've responded to are 1026545, 1031154, 1031156, 1031820, 1032836
[22:56] <plugwash> 1025302 I just marked as wontfix but that's probablly not appropriate in the general case
[22:57] <diederik> I find Debian's BTS a lot easier/better
[22:57] <diederik> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~didi-debian <- can you see that?
[22:58] <plugwash> unfortunately launchpad doesn't seem to have any options for customising the list of bug statuses
[22:59] <diederik> nope. My experience with launchpad is limited, but I don't like it one bit
[22:59] <plugwash> Theres "incomplete" but that still shows in the list of open bugs :/
[23:00] <diederik> yep, and that was exactly what I tried to reduce
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[23:01] <plugwash> hmm, theres an option "expire incomplete bugs when they become inactive", wonder what that does
[23:03] <diederik> http://blog.launchpad.net/general/enabling-automatic-bug-expiry
[23:04] <plugwash> well i've turned that option on, so now if you mark bugs as incomplete and noone responds then they should automatically switch to expired
[23:04] <plugwash> unfortunately it doesn't seem possible to manually set a bug to expired
[23:05] <diederik> sounds good. Sorry to have 'awakened' those other bugs :-P
[23:09] <anunnaki> plugwash: sorry. mailman just showed up with my new DC cable for this tablet. (now the charging plug doesnt wiggle in the port shutting off the tablet) that was causing me to go insane
[23:10] <anunnaki> plugwash: ill check the light
[23:15] <anunnaki> plugwash: the green light next to the power light, the sd card light? is blinking once every four seconds
[23:16] <diederik> that's good. the green one indicate write activity
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[23:20] <anunnaki> diederik: the only thing thats not good is i didnt add -y so it could be stopped waiting for me to say y,i, n,
[23:21] <anunnaki> or would it not be writing at all and thus no blinking if it was waiting for me to respond
[23:21] <diederik> excellent! The '-y' option is grossly abuse imo
[23:21] <diederik> *abused
[23:21] <anunnaki> diederik: yeah i didnt choose that because i wanted to see what was new, what was changed and what it would ask me
[23:21] <diederik> imo it would only make sense when scripted
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[23:22] <anunnaki> i do the same with compiling new kernels when i copy my old config over to the new one and let it prompt me for all the newest additions in the new kernel
[23:22] <diederik> sounds smart :)
[23:23] <anunnaki> I just like learning as much as i can about computers even its not necessary i want to know whats going on
[23:24] <anunnaki> i already yelled at devs in ##windows for not giving us the option to see whats happening when the windows machine boots. :) that we should have the option to remove the fancy white balls spinning in a circle and get to see the initialization process in verbatim
[23:24] <diederik> good luck getting that changed :-P
[23:25] <anunnaki> heh yeah they said that wasnt practical for the average user
[23:25] <anunnaki> then someone chimed in mentioning a program that was made that lets use see some details
[23:25] <anunnaki> they knew i was a linux user after that
[23:26] <diederik> haha :)
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[23:27] <anunnaki> ok so i ran apt-get dist-upgrade.. had to run to the apple store an hour away.. forgot to turn off the sleep mode. came back. sleep mode executed and disconnected me from ssh
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[23:27] <anunnaki> i wasnt thinking i shouldve ran that command inside tmux
[23:28] <anunnaki> that way i could just reopen it in case it went to sleep..
[23:28] <anunnaki> so now imm trying to figure out what to do here.. re-running the command said the dir is locked
[23:28] <diederik> tmux is a cool program
[23:30] <diederik> there is a '-f' option, but I don't know whether that's a good idea.
[23:30] <anunnaki> diederik: indeed. i prefer it over screen for the customizations
[23:31] <anunnaki> diederik: wish there was a way to see if the command is still running which im assuming it is.. but i think it hit another point in the upgrade where its prompting me for action
[23:31] <diederik> ps aux
[23:31] <anunnaki> would be interesting to get back in the command to resume where i left off
[23:32] <diederik> or 'ps aux | grep <programname>'
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[23:32] <anunnaki> i really need to learn to use 'ps' more.
[23:32] <diederik> me too
[23:32] <anunnaki> they used it in tron legacy
[23:33] <anunnaki> thats where i first learned about it hehe
[23:34] <anunnaki> root 5220 0.1 2.5 34712 8760 ? S 09:38 0:42 apt-get dist-up
[23:34] <anunnaki> that means its still running right?
[23:34] <diederik> I run KDE on my desktop and use yakuake, which is a dropdown terminal inspirted by quake
[23:34] <diederik> yes
[23:35] <diederik> but it could be that it's indeed waiting for input ... forever
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[23:35] <anunnaki> ah quake. my buddy loves that terminal. i use rxvt-unicode
[23:35] <diederik> is it still only blinking every 4 seconds?
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[23:36] <anunnaki> yes
[23:37] <anunnaki> looks like im about to learn something new
[23:37] <diederik> then _I_ would kill the process
[23:37] <anunnaki> how to go about killing it
[23:37] <anunnaki> rfkill or killall?
[23:37] <diederik> just 'kill <PID>'
[23:37] <anunnaki> im very wet behind the ears with bash
[23:38] <anunnaki> ah
[23:38] <diederik> see 'man kill'
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[23:42] <anunnaki> ok its telling me to run dpkg --configure -a
[23:42] <anunnaki> becuase there was a problem restarting it
[23:42] <diederik> that's a good sign
[23:43] <anunnaki> i hope i dont have to start over
[23:43] <diederik> it means it continues where it was
[23:43] <anunnaki> 1000 rebuild packages and 500 new packages i believe is what it said earlier today
[23:44] <diederik> updated, not rebuild (that's done on the raspbian server)
[23:44] <diederik> that will probably take a couple of hours
[23:44] <anunnaki> when i saw that. i knew it was going to be a loooooong day/week lol
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[23:45] <anunnaki> my gentoo.. if i neglect updating this long.. seeing 400 packages updating takes over 12 hours.. so now i see 1000.. on a rpi i knew it would be a long time
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[23:48] <anunnaki> so it just prompted me on sysctl.conf
[23:49] <anunnaki> i looked at my current one and saw i have some rpi tweaks uncommentd and also the low level messages on console uncommented to stop the low level
[23:49] <anunnaki> i dont recall uncommenting the low level to stop the messages since i like messages. the more the better
[23:49] <anunnaki> here are the tweaks that i dont recall adding
[23:49] <anunnaki> # rpi tweaks
[23:49] <anunnaki> vm.swappiness=1
[23:49] <anunnaki> vm.min_free_kbytes = 8192
[23:50] <diederik> I _think_ swappiness=1 pretty much disables swap
[23:51] <diederik> no idea about min_free_kbytes, but a web search should help you with that
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[23:53] <anunnaki> raspi-config handle sysctl.conf?
[23:53] <diederik> I have no idea/experience with raspi-config
[23:53] <anunnaki> if so then i probably added those options via raspi-config
[23:53] <anunnaki> ill google it
[23:53] <anunnaki> disables swap.. thats not good right
[23:54] <anunnaki> unless disabling swap is part of overclocking
[23:54] <diederik> I don't have swap at all on my Pi's
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[23:54] <anunnaki> which reminds me i need to google overclocking this 1.33ghz i5.
[23:55] <anunnaki> hmm i wonder if swap is a good think to have on the pi or if its not even needed
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