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[1:44] <oscare100_> buenas noches
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[6:59] <Lope> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=139801&p=928341#p928341
[7:00] <Lope> I'm finding it disturbing that raspbian has adopted an oxymoronic approach to setting a static IP address.
[7:00] <Lope> The approach makes no sense, and it's a deviation from the debian way.
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[7:53] <niston> "That's like defining a nightmare inside positive-experiences.conf." <-- haha
[7:55] <niston> does this mean that networking will be broken without a dhcpd ?
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[8:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[9:56] <And1> Anyone here using RPi3 with builtin WiFi (and if needed wpa_supplicant)? Seems I can’t get mine to work.
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[10:29] <- *mpmctoo* I'm not connected to this bouncer right now (it's a backup!). Please try messaging my main user mpmc (/msg mpmc hello) to see if I'm online!
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[10:46] <Lope> niston: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=928358#p928358
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[10:47] <Lope> And1: Your issues might have something to do with the new networking weirdness, see the link I just pasted.
[10:48] <Lope> If anyone thinks it doesn't make sense, or it's not helpful to beginners (education) that static IPs must be defined inside dhcpcd.conf in the new Raspbian, show your support in the above thread. I think they've gotta fix this insanity.
[10:49] <And1> I don’t even have dhcpd installed …
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[10:50] <Lope> Ah, well I don't know if that's supported in the new Jessie Raspbian.
[10:50] <Lope> They've blurred the meanings of all the networking terminology now. It's a fuckup.
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[11:08] <TCMSLP> That does seem a bit retarded. No wonder the guys on #debian are so quick to refuse support of derivatives.
[11:08] <TCMSLP> oh, Lope left.
[11:10] <niston> I would agree that it certainly feels weirdo++ to have a *nix without /etc/network/interfaces
[11:11] <niston> and he's got a point there about it being suboptimal for education purposes
[11:11] <niston> but can also see the advantages, like rurwin posted
[11:13] <TCMSLP> I'm a bit out of touch with debian. Do we have network-manager (like RHEL)? If so, wouldn't it be better to just do everything under that? It's friendly to newcomers whilst also relying on standard files under the hood
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[11:15] <And1> I thought dhcpd would be needed for a server … I don’t spontaneously see why you would need it in addition to /etc/network/interfaces …
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[11:22] <And1> Why does Lope not simply uninstall dhcpd, just for me to understand the situation a bit more.
[11:23] <TCMSLP> I think he could do just that, but was arguing this goes against any sane standards
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[11:24] <And1> Yeah ok. I see that point. Though I really don’t know anything about dhcpd, also not from my debian days.
[11:24] <niston> I wonder
[11:24] <niston> do you need to run dhcpd for the network to come up?
[11:25] <niston> with this new, arguably improved scheme?
[11:25] <And1> I’m installing the latest raspberrypi.org raspbian lite image and see if there’s dhcpd … and if wifi works. : o
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[12:21] <mooncheese> Hi I want to use shutdown -h now from the cron to schedule a shutdown. But it doesn't work. /sbin/halt does work from the cron but it doesn't not power down the external hdd in the same way shutdown -h now does.
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[12:25] <And1> How need sdcards for raspberry pi need to be formatted?
[12:25] <And1> Partitions and so on. Or does this happen automagically when dd'ing an image to it?
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[12:26] <And1> Because … some of mine come with two partition, some with three. Why does it even need more than one?
[12:26] <mooncheese> dd will create minimal partitions later on first boot you can expand from the setup util.
[12:27] <And1> So I shouldn’t care about partitioning, just dd and then … go on?
[12:27] <And1> I just need raspbian on the sdcard.
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[12:44] <Justanick> And1: Yes
[12:45] <Justanick> And1: At least you need 2 partitions. One which the Pi can read to load the bootloader and a second to store the linux operation system.
[12:46] <Justanick> And1: The bootloader partition doesn't support all the needed feature for the linux operation system.
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[12:53] <And1> Justanick: I see, thanks!
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[12:57] <And1> Oh, after booting the raspbian lite image, there is no installation gui (or ncurses thing).
[12:57] <And1> It just boots and asks for login for user raspberrypi
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[12:59] <Justanick> And1: Login and execute the ncurse gui to config the pi.
[12:59] <And1> What’s the password for root? Let me search that ncurse gui …
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[13:00] <Justanick> I would expect next to the download link of the image.
[13:02] <And1> Do you mean the 'raspi-config' command?
[13:08] <Justanick> yes
[13:08] <And1> Thanks.
[13:09] <And1> I did not no this before … I installed wheezy via raspbian-ua-netinstall back in the days and then upgraded to jessie.
[13:09] <And1> (Talking about my former raspberry pi, the new one has the raspbian lite image from raspberrypi.org)
[13:11] <shiftplusone> No root password set. Only pi:raspberry. You can use sudo to set the root password.
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[13:12] <And1> shiftplusone: sudo passwd – sure, sorry …
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[13:32] <And1> Oh, does raspbian install recommended packages via apt(itude)?
[13:38] <mortal> what is the easiest way to backup my current installation
[13:38] <mortal> is it possible to run dd through bzip2 and end up with a small file
[13:38] <mortal> if I dd my sdhc to hd
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[13:41] <And1> mortal: You can do it with gzip. On the very bottom: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/filesystem/backup.md
[13:41] <And1> E.g. 'sudo dd bs=4M if=/dev/sdb | gzip > rasbian.img.gz' …
[13:41] <mortal> okies thanks
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[13:46] <shiftplusone> might be a good idea to use zerofree on the root partition first
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[13:49] <And1> shiftplusone: What’s that?
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> never knew it existed - i've always done cat /dev/zero > randomefile ; rm randomfile
[13:50] <shiftplusone> a tool that will zero the free space
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> it zeros unused blocks making the image compress much better.
[13:57] <mortal> argh
[13:57] <mortal> thanks
[13:58] <mortal> doing it
[13:59] <And1> gordonDrogon, shiftplusone: I see. How can I use this?
[13:59] <mortal> I have a 32 GB card
[13:59] <mortal> will take a while
[14:00] <mortal> kingston gold
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[14:09] <gordonDrogon> hi - sorry been afk.
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> zerofree can't be used on a mounted filesystem, so unless you can do it in another PC, then the old-fashioned way of cat /dev/null > filex ; rm filex will work just fine.
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> Personally I do not recommend using dd as a backup tool like this though, however the alternative requires you to actually understand a few things and more commands like rsync, etc.
[14:12] <gordonDrogon> however "everyone" uses dd, so there are guides online, etc.
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[14:40] <Lyka> hi
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[14:41] <Lyka> is it okay if i mirror the archive for personal use?
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[14:44] <Lyka> basically, so that my fleet of raspberry pi's can stay off the internet
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[14:55] <Lyka> oh, read the size of the archive and realized i don't have the space. never mind
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[15:19] <c-pin> hey mateys! just got a pi zero to play with, having problems with usb
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[15:19] <c-pin> like i have a keyboard and mouse, but not a powered hub. so i have an otg that doesnt power the hub... tried ps2 to usb to otg, that didnt work either
[15:20] <c-pin> could i get one of those logitech trackpad keyboardS?
[15:20] <c-pin> think thatll work?
[15:22] <thurstylark> c-pin: In my experience, those work great. Low powered reciever, and with the unifying recievers, you can add more than one kb/mouse to the same reciever. Super convienent for RPi hacking imo.
[15:22] <thurstylark> although, to be honest, I don't have a zero and don't have experience with that specific hardware, so ymmv
[15:22] <c-pin> oh cool! time to go to microcenter since amazon is overpriced
[15:23] <c-pin> ah, thats about the reaction i get from most people
[15:23] <c-pin> wellp, time to guinea pig.
[15:23] <thurstylark> c-pin: I've had good luck with them with my B, B+ and 2B.
[15:24] <c-pin> if you say so, i'm willing to put in the cash.
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[15:35] <c-pin> hey thurstylark should i get the k400 or the k400 plus?
[15:35] <c-pin> i kind of like the k400 plus because its got the media keys in different place and its 10 dollars cheaper
[15:36] <thurstylark> Don't have any experience with those. I've got a separate mouse and keyboard atm.
[15:36] <c-pin> same. zero i wanna have that trackpad though so i dont need any extra shite
[15:36] <c-pin> which means no sound or wireless for now hehe
[15:37] <c-pin> http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Adapter-Cable-Converter-Female/dp/B00YSNLHQ6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1457969820&sr=8-4&keywords=hdmi+to+vga+sound
[15:37] <c-pin> i could deal with one of these though.
[15:37] <c-pin> ima get the plus and that adapter so i can have some fun.
[15:38] <c-pin> im just assiming mhdmi to hdmi includes sound
[15:39] <c-pin> and that the pi zero outputs sound through hdmi
[15:39] <c-pin> wellp there we go. should arrive near wednesday, scsi drive on friday with expansion card and hopefully cable
[15:39] <c-pin> no idea when my taiwanese black metal album comes in lol
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[16:28] <ghoti> Morning, folks.
[16:31] <ghoti> I'm looking for a way to synchronize video across multiple Pis, video-wall style. mplayer version 3 has -udp-master and -udp-slave options that would help with this, but .. mplayer2 seems to be the latest version available, and of course I'm stuck with the ol' hardware acceleration challenge.
[16:31] <ghoti> Is there (1) a build (even experimental) of mplayer3 for raspbian that someone can pointme at, and (2) any hope of getting mplayer to use hardware acceleration, perhaps by leaning on gstreamer?
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[16:50] <leio> ghoti: there have been videowall experimentations in pure gstreamer, not sure why you looking into mplayer
[16:51] <leio> ls
[16:51] <leio> whoops
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[16:51] <leio> mpv has a rpi video output
[16:52] <leio> I guess mplayer* does too and the question is really omx support
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[17:10] <c-pin> ooh might make an altoid pi zero box
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[17:17] <LebedevRI> hello. i'm trying to build time server out of my shiny new raspi2 :) i'm following http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-quickstart.html question: is there any other way, without recompilation?
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[17:37] <Gerritjan> hello i have a question how can i change this code that i get a arry from the ip until the end of the ip form a file http://pastebin.com/yv2ebF17
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[17:51] <ghoti> leio: I'm just starting this journey - I've used mplayer on non-RPi devices, so that was my starting point. I'm hoping to build something that can go back and forth between video and html content in uzbl or some other full-screen browser...
[17:51] <ghoti> So .. any recommendations would be gratefully accepted!
[17:54] <ghoti> Hmm, I suppose what I'm hoping to build will be a little like Screenly.
[17:54] <ghoti> Except with syncronized video.
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[18:05] <jonassk> Hello, i just installed rasbpian on my new rpi 3, i can't seem to get xrandr to work.
[18:05] <jonassk> It just keep saying: "Can't open display"
[18:05] <jonassk> What am i doing wrong?
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[18:17] <LebedevRI> i believe i have solved my "do not want to recompile ntp" issue by installing gpsd and using 127.127.28.0 and 127.127.28.1, thanks :)
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[18:24] <Amnesia> question, can anyone over here give me the results of dpkg -L $(which tvservice) :)?
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[18:28] <leio> ghoti: https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/apps/videowhale.html was something of ancient past, there must be something more recent though
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[18:37] <gordonDrogon> Amnesia, tvservice isn't a package on its own.
[18:37] <Amnesia> gordonDrogon: ty, I've already found it though
[18:37] <Amnesia> I want to disable hdmi on my openwrt install
[18:38] <Amnesia> so I thought I'd grab raspbian's binaries
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> any reason to disable it?
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[18:38] <Amnesia> but I forgot raspbian uses glibc, and openwrt uses clibc:/
[18:38] <Amnesia> uclibc*
[18:38] <Amnesia> gordonDrogon: yes, I'm trying to conserve electricity
[18:38] <Amnesia> cause I've powered my pi+dongle using my router
[18:39] <Amnesia> 's usb connection
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[18:39] <Amnesia> which sometimes crashes, due to a lack of current
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> ok
[18:41] <Amnesia> so this is being quite a pita-.-:P
[18:44] <And1> How can I tell my raspberry (which hast the hostname of my old one, but a new IP) to force the dhcp-server/router to spread the new IP connected with that hostname?
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[18:46] <someguy22222> hello
[18:46] <someguy22222> i just got a raspberry pi 1 model b+ 1.2 and can I ask a couple of questions, Im a bit new to this stuff
[18:47] <methuzla> yes
[18:47] <someguy22222> well question 1
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[18:47] <someguy22222> my adapter has 2100 mAh output is it safe to plug in or will it fry my rasbpi?
[18:48] <methuzla> if you mean your power supply, then safe
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[18:49] <someguy22222> oh ok thanks
[18:49] <TheLostAdmin> mAh? you mean battery pack?
[18:49] <someguy22222> nope i mean a power supply it outputs 5.2V @ 2100mAh
[18:50] <methuzla> you sure it has an 'h' on the rating?
[18:50] <someguy22222> hmm not sure
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[18:51] <someguy22222> do you mean the power efficiency rating cu i dont think that'll mater
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[18:54] <methuzla> mAh = milliamp hours, used for rating batteries, how much they can supply and for how long
[18:54] <methuzla> doesn't really apply to an AC adapter
[18:55] <methuzla> but since you quit, guess none of this matters
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[19:06] <jonassk> Hello, i just installed rasbpian on my new rpi 3, i can't seem to get xrandr to work. It just keep saying: "Can't open display". What am i doing wrong?
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[19:06] <mrkramps> jonassk, how to you try to start xrandr? tty or terminal in X?
[19:07] <jonassk> tty? sorry new to this.
[19:07] <jonassk> I have raspbian jessie lite, and i'm connected via ssh
[19:08] <mrkramps> jonassk, xrandr requires a running XServer
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[19:09] <jonassk> what i want to do is be able to stream a video/audio out of hdmi. What solutions is there?
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[19:10] <mrkramps> jonassk, omxplayer should work
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[19:12] <Jusii> and it doesnt need X
[19:12] <jonassk> okay, thanks! :)
[19:12] <mrkramps> that's why it shoud work ;)
[19:14] <jonassk> I have this fan, should i be able to plug it in to the gpio, to 5v and ground? http://noctua.at/en/nf-a4x10-5v
[19:15] <mrkramps> a fan? for your RPi?
[19:16] <jonassk> yes
[19:16] <jonassk> Just for fun
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[19:20] <methuzla> jonassk wiring is unclear, are there two or three?
[19:20] <jonassk> It got 3, but it comes with a 3:2-pin adaptor
[19:21] <methuzla> jonassk do you know what the function of the 3 wires are?
[19:22] <jonassk> Nope, couldn't find it anywhere
[19:23] <methuzla> you should be able to power it from the 5V rail
[19:24] <jonassk> it came with this manual http://noctua.at/media/blfa_files/manual/noctua_nf_a4x10_5v_manual_en_1.pdf
[19:24] <jonassk> the 3:2-pin adaptor, has red and black wire. So i guess red is 5v and black is ground?
[19:25] <methuzla> likely
[19:26] <jonassk> Any chance of damaging the pi if i try to connect the fan?
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[19:26] <methuzla> if you do it wrong, yes
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[19:30] <methuzla> jonassk are trying to control the fan with the pi, or do you want it to just come on when the pi is powered?
[19:30] <jonassk> just want it tome on when the pi is powered
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[19:31] <jonassk> to come*
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[19:33] <jonassk> Btw, does the lights on the pi stay on after "sudo shutdown now" ?
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[19:33] <methuzla> red light?
[19:33] <lordievader> For the first generation, yes.
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[19:34] <shiftplusone> just ran systemctl poweroff on a pi 3. after the flashes, it remains on.
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[19:35] <jonassk> yeh, both leds right?
[19:35] <jonassk> Red and orange both on for me.
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[19:37] <shiftplusone> Red should always be on. If it's not, something is wrong.
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[19:41] <jonassk> @methuzla do you think it's okay to connect the fan? Red to 5v and black to ground.
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[19:42] <methuzla> probably. your call though.
[19:45] <Jusii> test it without the pi
[19:45] <jonassk> How?
[19:46] <Jusii> +5v to red and black to ground
[19:46] <Jusii> then you know for sure the wires are correct
[19:46] <jonassk> dont have anything to connect i to i think :/
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[19:57] <vvutvvut> Hi, anyone knows if to set the alsamixer master at 100% should be avoided or is it fine in terms of sound distorsions?
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[20:09] <SwK> anyone have problems with up to date raspbian 8 npm complaining about certs not being active yet on github using
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[20:15] <jonassk> Should i need an extra power supple if i want to connect around 1 foot of these leds? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5M-30Pixel-M-150-5050-RGB-SMD-WS2811-IC-Built-in-WS2812B-WS2812-white-PCB-Addressable/32367479484.html
[20:15] <jonassk> supply*
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[20:19] <Jusii> you don't want to power that from the pi, but you can use pi to control it
[20:20] <jonassk> Even if it's just like 10 leds lights?
[20:20] <jonassk> led*
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[20:23] <Leolian> Hi guys. Tryed to join from different way, but I remember so poorly nowdays how to actually join from different servers and etc...
[20:25] <Leolian> I have little problem with my RPi with latest Rasbian Jessie. I try to run startup script for piui-supervisor.service and it fails hard. I have tryed to modifie the script in /etc/network/ip-pre-up.d/iptables but still it fails and I just can't understand enymore where I make a mistake. Can enyone pls help me? (Little bit new with Linux)
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[20:27] <jonassk> @Jussi Even if it's just like 10 led lights?
[20:29] <jonassk> @Jusii Even if it's just like 10 led lights?
[20:29] <thurstylark> Leolian: What is the actual error that you get when it fails?
[20:31] <Leolian> thurstylark: From journalctl I get "Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/init.d/piui-supervisor: Exec format error
[20:32] <Jusii> jonassk: well I think all the info is easily available, then it's just math
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[20:32] <Jusii> see how many watts those need, then see how much RPi is able to safely provide
[20:33] <Jusii> but GPIO on RPi is 3.3v so you would need to power it from the 5v pins which are constantly on, controlling needs to be done with 3,3v GPIO anyway
[20:33] <Leolian> I have confirmed that the startup script has correct format in the beginning for line #!/bin/sh - and that it uses iptables-restore with ....up.rules
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[20:37] <Leolian> So little background story. I set up RPi as AP with Realtek adapter (chipset rtl8188cus) and the wifi is seen in other devices with WPA2 security. Problem is that after I installed PiUi the AP doesn't give IP addresses and PiUi supervisor service fails in boot.
[20:37] <thurstylark> Leolian: what are the permissions on that exec script? you can find out with ls -l /etc/init.d/piui-supervisor
[20:38] <thurstylark> you can just paste the whole line here.
[20:39] <Leolian> - rwxr - xr - x 1 root root 705 Mar 14 18:53 /etc/init.d/piui-supervisor
[20:39] <Leolian> I chmoded +x with 755
[20:39] <Leolian> If I remember right
[20:41] <thurstylark> Yeah, that should work...
[20:42] <Leolian> Had earlier problem with sudo ifup wlan0 to bring up interface but now it did go through and now it's up somehow.
[20:42] <Leolian> This is why my understanding drops off. Too many variables in debugging changes once
[20:43] <Leolian> Still can't get IP address from AP
[20:43] <thurstylark> is dnsmasq up?
[20:46] <Leolian> Not really using it. So it isn't up. Using hostapd and one dhcp package
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[20:47] <thurstylark> Leolian: Isn't dnsmasq your dhcp server? Without a dhcp server, there's nothing to give out IPs.
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[20:48] <Leolian> Thought to use dnsmasq as dhcp server but I loaded isc-dhcp-server
[20:49] <thurstylark> That'll work, then. Is that loaded up?
[20:49] <Leolian> And actually now I see that too haven't loaded up
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[20:51] <thurstylark> Also, make sure to enable both of those if you want them to start at boot.
[20:51] <Leolian> dhcpcheck syslog for diagnostics. ... failed
[20:51] <Leolian> Can't see enything else like error msg
[20:52] <hgeboner> Leolian, you should look in /var/log/syslog why daemons fail and fix accordingly.
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[21:03] <Leolian> And nicely got terminal stuck for trying grep "daemons" from syslog. So good...
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[21:07] <Leolian> For looking syslog now manually can't find nothing about daemon failing
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[21:21] <Leolian> Syslog tells me that I have not declared subnet declaration either eth0 or wlan0 interfaces and so isc-dhcp fails
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[21:29] <Leolian> Do I really need to declare subnet at /etc/dhcp/dhcp.conf to make this work? Actually I really understand how should I declare it. Un-commented authorative part
[21:29] <Leolian> I really not* Pardon my typo
[21:30] <Leolian> don't** -.-
[21:30] <thurstylark> Leolian: you need to configure isc-dhcp for it to work. It doesn't work out of the box. dnsmasq may work out of the box, though I haven't checked.
[21:31] <Leolian> I mean about the subnet. What it really does and how it should work and be declared?
[21:33] <thurstylark> Leolian: Not sure. It'd be best to consult some documentation for that info.
[21:34] <Leolian> I really appreciate your help mate. I think I'm really close to this problem now.
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[21:36] <thurstylark> Leolian: np. BTW, the official documentation for piui uses dnsmasq. May be easier to set up for you. http://www.pi-point.co.uk/documentation/
[21:38] <bobb23> Hello, when attempting to rub .exe or .bin files on raspbian nothing seems to occur, i am attempting to create a bootable usb flash drive via my raspberry pi but cant seem to install software that can do this, any help?
[21:39] <thurstylark> bobb23: Those are windows programs. They aren't going to run on linux.
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[21:39] <bobb23> thurstylark: sorry for my stupidity, im very new to all of this, is there any way to do this on raspbian with an .iso file?
[21:41] <thurstylark> bobb23: linux can do just about anything, it just depends on the tools you use. What iso are you using?
[21:42] <bobb23> thurstylark: ubuntu gnome 14, im looking to boot it onto my laptop
[21:42] <bobb23> thurstylark: but my laptop is screwed so i cant boot up right now
[21:45] <thurstylark> bobb23: alrighty, all this is done from a terminal, so fire one up if you're at a desktop.
[21:45] <And1> Does anyone know, why my osx can connect to my new raspberry pi via 'ssh hostname', but 'ping hostname' still tries to lookup the old ip associated with that hostname?
[21:46] <bobb23> thurstylark: alright ive fired up my raspbian terminal, usb is ready and so is iso
[21:47] <thurstylark> bobb23: take the usb out, and run lsblk
[21:47] <bobb23> thurstylark: done
[21:47] <thurstylark> actually, for clarity, I'm gonna put all the commands to run in backticks, so run `lsvblk`
[21:47] <thurstylark> shit
[21:47] <thurstylark> `lsblk`
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[21:48] <bobb23> ok, what shall i do now
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[21:49] <thurstylark> bobb23: plug in your usb, and do `lsblk` again. Your usb drive will be the newest entries in that list.
[21:51] <thurstylark> And1: the only thing I can think of is that ssh is using a config file for hostname, and ping is using old dns cache. That seems unlikely though...
[21:51] <bobb23> thurstylark: alright, i see its location
[21:53] <thurstylark> bobb23: So, in linux everything is a file. That usb drive is what's called a "block device" and it's located in the /dev/ directory. What was the name that the system gave to your usb drive?
[21:53] <And1> thurstylark: ssh’s config though just knows the hostname, no ip. Hm.
[21:54] <bobb23> thurstylark: sda1 8:1 1 7.3G 0 part /media/pi/0E72-AA8D
[21:54] <thurstylark> And1: strange. do you have other computers around to test for similar behavior?
[21:55] <And1> thurstylark: Unfortunately not.
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[21:58] <thurstylark> bobb23: alright, so the device itself is "/dev/sda" and the first partition is "/dev/sda1" According to that output it's mounted right now and we don't want that, so run `sudo umount /dev/sda1`
[21:59] <bobb23> thurstylark: alright done
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[22:04] <bobb23> thurstylark: i checked lsblk too, its unmounted
[22:04] <thurstylark> bobb23: So, the next command could be destructive, so be careful to be exact. `sudo cp /path/to/iso /dev/sda` replace /path/to/iso with the actual path to the iso. If you don't know it, you can drag the icon onto the terminal to make it automatically insert the path for you.
[22:05] <thurstylark> (sorry I'm being slow. getting distractions thrown at me :P )
[22:06] <thurstylark> bobb23: to be safe, let me see the command you run before you hit enter.
[22:07] <bobb23> thurstylark: so would it be "sudo cp /home/pi/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso /dev/sda
[22:08] <thurstylark> bobb23: looks good. Go ahead and let that run. It won't put anything on the screen again until it's done, so just be patient, and wait for the prompt to come back up.
[22:09] <bobb23> thurstylark: it seems to be doing the job, thanks a lot so far, i havent used irc in years, is there any way to get up to date with the goings on or is everything relatively the same
[22:11] <thurstylark> bobb23: I pretty much stick to a few linux-related support channels on freenode, so I'm probably not the best one to ask :P
[22:12] <bobb23> thurstylark: how long should it take lol, im worried it wont work
[22:14] <bobb23> ok
[22:14] <bobb23> there we go, its done
[22:14] <bobb23> can i use it now
[22:14] <thurstylark> bobb23: You should be able to stick it in your computer and boot to it. If not, we may need to try another process.
[22:15] <bobb23> should i mount it and then safely eject?
[22:15] <bobb23> because it wont let me eject it
[22:15] <thurstylark> bobb23: no, run `sync` in the terminal, and when the prompt comes back, you should be good to pull it out.
[22:16] <bobb23> alright
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[22:17] <bobb23> thurstylark: thank you so much
[22:17] <bobb23> thurstylark: it worked, now, perhaps ill be able to recover my encrypted home folder, youve saved my day, thanks man
[22:18] <thurstylark> bobb23: hey, no problem. for future reference, ubuntu has instructions like that on their wiki. Should be able to get to it through google.
[22:21] <thurstylark> best part of the linux community is you have millions of people who can remind you to rtfm :P
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[22:33] <furkan> is there any raspbian repo for omxplayer daily builds?
[22:34] <shiftplusone> not really a repo, but http://omxplayer.sconde.net/builds/
[22:35] <furkan> hmm thanks, looks like it hasn't been updated for a month or so
[22:37] <furkan> i guess i'll just install a custom build on all my pis until the next update
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[22:37] <furkan> s/custom/manual
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[23:29] <And1> Why does raspbian use wpa-conf in /etc/network/interfaces as default and not wpa-roam. Can anyone explain this to me? Also I thought about adding allow-hotplug eth0 …
[23:31] <shiftplusone> And1: using dhcpcd to do the actual network management. It handles hotplugging wpa and so on.
[23:34] <And1> shiftplusone: So I shouldn’t touch the interfaces file?
[23:34] <shiftplusone> Depends on what you want to do with it. Most changes should be made in /etc/dhcpcd.conf , but you can always throw out dhcpcd and do things the debian way.
[23:37] <And1> shiftplusone: I just tested if I can uplug the network cable and wifi is then used automatically. That worked. Though, after plugging the network cable back in, raspbian kept on using wifi instead of switching back to ethernet. So I’d like to change that.
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[23:40] <shiftplusone> Don't know how to do that off the top of my head.
[23:42] <And1> shiftplusone: This looks promosing. Though, it’s a change to the interfaces file, not dhcpcd.conf … https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=598690#p598690
[23:43] <shiftplusone> Had lots of problems with ifplugd on jessie.
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[23:44] <shiftplusone> ah, it's saying remove ifplug and use allow-hotplug.... okay
[23:45] <shiftplusone> no idea... has been a while since I've looked at it all. Good luck
[23:45] <And1> shiftplusone: Thanks!
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