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[1:17] <robertj> hey all, is there a canonical way to build raspian images from scratch?
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[1:31] <phil42> ubuntu raspbian?
[1:31] <phil42> isn't that kind of like a ford chevy?
[1:31] <robertj> :P
[1:31] <phil42> or do you mean another kind of canonical?
[1:31] <robertj> but seriously, is there a 'this is how you build raspian to replicate the official build page'
[1:31] <robertj> lower-case C canonical
[1:32] <robertj> just, 'this is how you do it'
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[1:33] <phil42> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/kernel/building.md
[1:33] <robertj> no, the whole distro
[1:33] <robertj> or really just the intsall images actually
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[2:15] <threelegs> Hello i'm having a issue with the gpio pins on a raspberry pi. I have a program that activates the gpio pins on when this program runs. The program runs fine as root automaticly however when set to a limited user that only has access to gpio it will file on boot however run fine if started manually. Now the program isn't set to start untill runlevel two so i don't think it could be a hardware lock. Any ideas ?
[2:15] <threelegs> the code is here https://github.com/W-M-D/ergo-telescope
[2:16] <threelegs> fail not file
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[2:21] <threelegs> derp
[2:21] <elisa87> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/44532/ssh-to-raspberry-pi-remotely
[2:22] <threelegs> elisa87: can you elaborate
[2:23] <threelegs> are you trying to acess the pi from another network ? /
[2:23] <threelegs> access*
[2:23] <elisa87> @threelegs ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.102 port 22: Operation timed out
[2:23] <elisa87> yes another network
[2:23] <binaryhermit> I bet you need to forward port 22 to the pi
[2:23] <threelegs> and you're on the same network
[2:23] <elisa87> @binaryhermit how can that be done? is there a nice tutorial for it?
[2:23] <threelegs> is the pi on the same network as your computer ?
[2:24] <elisa87> no it is not on the same network! I have told it in the question @threelegs
[2:24] <binaryhermit> it depends on the router, I believe
[2:24] <threelegs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Row8zEJZc
[2:24] <threelegs> that's a good one
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[2:25] <threelegs> i would say don't do it on your router because you likely don't have a static ip
[2:25] <elisa87> how can I find the public ip address of 192.168.1.102?
[2:25] <threelegs> google what's my ip address :)
[2:26] <threelegs> But the best way is to do a reverse port forward from a server somewhere
[2:26] <threelegs> Get a trial on google or amazon to test it out for a few months
[2:27] <elisa87> I don't have access to the Pi now! Would I be able to find the public ip of 192.168.1.102?
[2:28] <threelegs> not easily :)
[2:28] <elisa87> so there's a way/
[2:29] <elisa87> how can I find the public ip address of a private ip address if i don't have access to the device?
[2:31] <threelegs> Well there's always a way. But none of them are good. If you have another computer on the same network you can get its public ip and it will be the same. However, unless you forward the port to your router you will not have access to the device from outside the network. This is not a good idea anyways because it opens you up to attacks such as ddosing and even though there may not be many people out there 0 daying ssh it is possi
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[2:32] <threelegs> Also your isp probably gave you a dynamic ip so it will almost never be the same.
[2:34] <elisa87> feel free to fill in here http://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/28941/converting-private-ip-to-public-ip
[2:35] <threelegs> Well is the device making any request to servers that you have permissions to ?
[2:36] <threelegs> Facebook/google also logs ips so if you ever logged into facebook there you should be able to find it
[2:36] <threelegs> however you will not be able to access the device
[2:36] <threelegs> because it's not forwared
[2:36] <elisa87> I have used Facebook and Google yeah when I was in Raspi. How do I access those from Facebook? :
[2:36] <elisa87> :P
[2:38] <threelegs> go to the security tab
[2:38] <threelegs> under settings
[2:38] <threelegs> and click on Where You're Logged In
[2:40] <threelegs> it will be an ipv6 addr
[2:40] <elisa87> it doesn't give me the ip! threelegs
[2:40] <threelegs> hover over the location
[2:40] <threelegs> it will
[2:42] <elisa87> that's neat
[2:42] <threelegs> indeed
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[2:45] <DanthePolishmann> I really don't know how things work with linux or anything; I'm trying to get an IRC bouncer installed called quassel core, and I'm just installing the client right now. There was a bunch of installing going on earlier, but now the prompt just keeps scrolling rapidly with no text. Like the ending username: ~ $ and many, many lines of it
[2:45] <DanthePolishmann> Is that a normal part of the install process?
[2:46] <threelegs> But if you ever want to ssh into the pi in the future please pleaseee get a cloud server for free somewhere and reverse port forward. It will make your life so much easier. I'm sure theres some init script templates out there. elisa87
[2:46] <threelegs> DanthePolishmann: nope
[2:47] <threelegs> so you're on raspbian ?
[2:47] <threelegs> DanthePolishmann:
[2:47] <DanthePolishmann> It just stopped scrolling down
[2:47] <DanthePolishmann> After ~ 10 minutes
[2:47] <DanthePolishmann> yes
[2:47] <DanthePolishmann> Recommended distro
[2:47] <threelegs> you were using apt-get to install it ?
[2:47] <DanthePolishmann> Yeah
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[2:47] <DanthePolishmann> Why shouldn't I directly ssh into the pi?
[2:47] <threelegs> were you holding down enter ? :D
[2:47] <threelegs> That was for elisa87
[2:48] <DanthePolishmann> nop
[2:48] <DanthePolishmann> Well, either way, how do you search for installed software?
[2:48] <elisa87> I am a student and have no money literally @threelegs to do such!
[2:48] <DanthePolishmann> Or files
[2:48] <DanthePolishmann> threelegs: There's a run, but that's not the same thing
[2:48] <threelegs> DanthePolishmann: apt-cache search
[2:49] <threelegs> if you want to look for something that you don't have
[2:49] <threelegs> or did i miss understand your question ?
[2:49] <DanthePolishmann> So something like
[2:49] <DanthePolishmann> sudo apt-cache search *quassel*
[2:49] <DanthePolishmann> Shoudl work
[2:50] <threelegs> no need for the *
[2:50] <DanthePolishmann> Do wildcards not work?
[2:50] <threelegs> are you looking for software that you want to install
[2:50] <DanthePolishmann> No
[2:50] <threelegs> oh
[2:50] <DanthePolishmann> I'm talking about things on the system
[2:50] <threelegs> elaborate
[2:50] <DanthePolishmann> ot4whtgju8i alright
[2:50] <DanthePolishmann> So I'm looking for a piece of installed software
[2:50] <threelegs> locate finds programs names
[2:50] <DanthePolishmann> You know in windows, there's a native search function?
[2:50] <threelegs> if your doing it via cli
[2:50] <DanthePolishmann> It searches all of the files and programmes
[2:50] <DanthePolishmann> No, I want gui
[2:50] <threelegs> yes
[2:51] <threelegs> hm
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[2:51] <threelegs> i haven't used a gui in forever :D
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[2:51] <threelegs> have you tried pressing the windows key
[2:51] <DanthePolishmann> Ok, I've found the quassel IRC under menu > internet
[2:51] <threelegs> :D
[2:51] <DanthePolishmann> lmfao
[2:51] <DanthePolishmann> That gets you to the menu
[2:51] <DanthePolishmann> I think I got it for now, I'll look into actually using it later
[2:51] <threelegs> ok
[2:52] <DanthePolishmann> And i heard that standard ubuntu distros will never work on the Pi2 because of the lack of power
[2:52] <threelegs> meh
[2:52] <threelegs> you can do it
[2:52] <DanthePolishmann> Well, I think that's to be expected. We have some really core2duo's in school that struggle with ubuntu
[2:52] <threelegs> it's just laggy
[2:52] <DanthePolishmann> We should really put some more lightweight programmes
[2:52] <threelegs> well gnome is pretty resource heavy
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[2:53] <threelegs> it's not ubuntus fault it's really the gui
[2:53] <threelegs> there are more light weight guis but they arn't as good imo
[2:53] <elisa87> wow you so intelligent threelegs
[2:53] <elisa87> ssh pi@128.105.37.144
[2:53] <elisa87> pi@128.105.37.144's password:
[2:53] <elisa87> Permission denied, please try again.
[2:54] <threelegs> elisa87: so that worked ?
[2:54] <threelegs> i really didn't expect it to haha
[2:54] <elisa87> at least I could find the public IP using your Facebook method
[2:54] <threelegs> np
[2:54] <DanthePolishmann> I'm lost at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THj8bDN2tJo 2:24
[2:55] <threelegs> elisa87: also don't post your public ip in a logged irc :)
[2:55] <threelegs> it's a very bad idea
[2:55] <DanthePolishmann> I don't know how to add it to etc or whatever that is
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[2:55] <threelegs> even though i'm doing it right now by being here
[2:56] <DanthePolishmann> threelegs: Do you see what I mean?
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[2:56] <bobbySmurda> ay guys im going from a pi 1 to a pi3 on raspbian, no noobs. I just run apt-get dist-upgrade right?
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[2:57] <threelegs> DanthePolishmann: not exactly
[2:58] <DanthePolishmann> threelegs: Start there https://youtu.be/THj8bDN2tJo?t=1m44s
[2:58] <threelegs> bobbySmurda: what do you mean going from a pi 1 to a pi 3
[2:59] <threelegs> DanthePolishmann: you're stuck on installing ?
[2:59] <threelegs> or getting the gui open
[2:59] <DanthePolishmann> Problem starts at 2:05 with the program
[2:59] <DanthePolishmann> They talk about adding 'lines' to etc host file
[3:00] <elisa87> @threelegs I wrote your solution here http://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/28941/converting-private-ip-to-public-ip/28943#28943
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[3:00] <threelegs> bobbySmurda: if you're just taking the sd card out of the pi 1 and putting it into the pi 3 i wouldn't recommended it because there could be interface issues.
[3:00] <threelegs> elisa87: thanks :)
[3:01] <DanthePolishmann> ,ac elisa87
[3:01] <DanthePolishmann> oops
[3:02] <DanthePolishmann> Forgot that that's a bot command specfic to another irc
[3:02] <threelegs> lol
[3:02] <threelegs> DanthePolishmann: sudo apt-get install vim
[3:02] <threelegs> or sudo apt-get install nano
[3:03] <threelegs> then run nano / vim on the hosts file
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[3:03] <DanthePolishmann> What's vim do?
[3:03] <elisa87> so I realized I got the wrong linux ip, it shows my home department not my lab http://imgur.com/SgW3Po8 why doesn't show the computer I was logged in today or at least the last week?
[3:04] <bobbySmurda> threelegs, I had raspbian lite jesse its mainly just a running vpn and minidlna server, I just bought a pi3, I know its a new cpu version but I looked it up online and folks said just run apt-get distro-upgrade and it would work..sounds too easy so I wanted to check..you think nah?
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[3:07] <threelegs> bobbySmurda: well the current version of raspian is based on jessie and i'm guessing you're on wheezy so this should help. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html but if you have another sd card you could always dd your current sd card to that and try it or even dd the sd card to a file as a backup and try it
[3:08] <bobbySmurda> threelegs, im on jesse now on my pi1
[3:08] <bobbySmurda> threelegs true, ill do it after i fix my GD vpn and post results
[3:08] <threelegs> so why would you need to dis upgrade :)
[3:09] <threelegs> unless it pulls another kernel
[3:09] <threelegs> i'm not sure
[3:09] <bobbySmurda> threelegs i thought it was something to do with going from arm6 to 53
[3:09] <bobbySmurda> kernel was what i was guessing
[3:09] <bobbySmurda> yea figured id asl
[3:09] <bobbySmurda> ask
[3:12] <threelegs> bobbySmurda: well i have been the only one answering questions since i got here :)
[3:12] <threelegs> i would go for it i'm pretty sure i have dded a img from a pi one to a pi 2 with out problems
[3:13] <bobbySmurda> #realMVP
[3:13] <bobbySmurda> lol
[3:13] <bobbySmurda> yea ill be the guinea pig, whats the worst that can happen?
[3:13] <bobbySmurda> THE FIRE IS SHOOTING AT US!!
[3:14] <bobbySmurda> sorry haven't slept in a while
[3:14] <threelegs> lol
[3:16] <threelegs> bobbySmurda: well it's still arm so you might not be as optimized but you never really are unless you're running gentoo .
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[3:17] <bobbySmurda> im not trying to switch os'es, but i literally just set up my server and was like hmm i need a pi3 . I just hope my image works without redoing everything
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[3:18] <threelegs> well if you're already on jessie you might already have the changes
[3:19] <threelegs> i have only done dev for the mainline kernel.
[3:19] <threelegs> wait i take that back i have deved on the old pi as well
[3:19] <threelegs> for it
[3:19] <threelegs> hm
[3:19] <Grishanko> Is anyone else having problems with Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org jessie InRelease in apt-get?
[3:20] <threelegs> Grishanko what exactly is the nature of your error
[3:20] <bobbySmurda> did you just install the image?
[3:20] <bobbySmurda> gris
[3:21] <Grishanko> When running apt-get update or install it fails to initiate a connection to mirrordirector
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[3:21] <threelegs> bobbySmurda: well i wasn't there but a intern took a img i had created and burnt it to the pi 2 that ad a armv7 processor vs the armv6 it was running on
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[3:22] <threelegs> and it worked
[3:22] <bobbySmurda> threelegs encouraging..maybe i will get some sleep tonight lol
[3:23] <threelegs> but just in case do a backup with dd
[3:23] <threelegs> it's doesn't even take very long
[3:23] <threelegs> and you can always dd it back
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[3:24] <bobbySmurda> yea i will
[3:26] <threelegs> i think i'll repost my question lol
[3:26] <threelegs> Hello i'm having a issue with the gpio pins on a raspberry pi. I have a program that activates the gpio pins on when this program runs. The program runs fine as root automaticly however when set to a limited user that only has access to gpio it will file on boot however run fine if started manually. Now the program isn't set to start untill runlevel two so i don't think it could be a hardware lock. Any ideas ?
[3:26] <threelegs> fail not file
[3:26] <threelegs> lol
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[3:34] <bobbySmurda> chmod/chown the program..only thing i can think of
[3:36] <threelegs> Nah the program actually runs it just doesn't run the gpio pins
[3:37] <bobbySmurda> sorry man got me there
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[3:44] <threelegs> Whelp i guess i'm going to have to jtag it
[3:44] <threelegs> better make me some harnesses
[3:45] <threelegs> any more questions before i leave ?
[3:45] <threelegs> gogogog
[3:45] <bobbySmurda> i dont have any for threelegs
[3:45] <bobbySmurda> ahhhh
[3:45] <bobbySmurda> lol
[3:45] <bobbySmurda> have fun
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[5:07] <auk> hello everyone
[5:07] <auk> anyone else experiencing problems with the raspian apt servers recently?
[5:09] <auk> i'm trying to figure out if it's my install or the servers that are bugging
[5:09] <auk> ...apt-get update hangs on one of the servers and never resolves
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[5:20] <auk> fyi, i replaced http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/ with http://archive.raspbian.org/ in sources.list and it works
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[7:40] <niobos> Hi; I'm getting a connection timeout for mirrordirector.raspbian.org. Is it just me, or is it a more general problem?
[7:43] <niobos> (countrary to what I read in the logs from before I joined, I do get a resolve (both IPv4 and IPv6)
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[9:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[9:25] <kOoLiNuS> good morning
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[9:27] <lordievader> o/
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[11:40] <[diablo]> Afternoon #rapsbian ... I've got an old first version Pi, and a weird problem... I can SSH into sometimes but then get broken pipe from my Mac with iTerm2 , however if I SSH in via another pi which causes no issue whatsoever it stays open...
[11:40] <[diablo]> I can always ping the pi, but it won't ssh...
[11:41] <[diablo]> but if I then ssh into the second, and ssh into the first, its fine.. bizarre
[11:42] <Jusii> sounds like problem with the client
[11:42] <Jusii> maybe some keepalive thing
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[11:42] <Jusii> I'd start with google: iterm2 ssh broken pipe
[11:43] <[diablo]> hi Jusii
[11:43] <[diablo]> yeah I hear ya, but the weird thing is the pi thats working A-OK is exactly the same config
[11:44] <[diablo]> to the best of my belief, nothing differs between the two
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[12:07] <[diablo]> real strange, I can't even telnet the IP to port 22 from the mac, but no issue connecting via the other Pi
[12:07] <[diablo]> but it can ping from the Mac
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[12:21] <peawormsworth> when i run 'apt-get update' it gets stuck on mirrordirector.raspbian.org
[12:21] <peawormsworth> I am wondering if someone else could try an update on raspbian to see if it is just my personal issue.
[12:21] <hphuhtin> happens for me too
[12:22] <peawormsworth> ok thanks. yes. because it worked for me an hour ago.
[12:23] <hphuhtin> you can choose a mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list in the meantime I guess
[12:25] <hphuhtin> choose from here https://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianMirrors
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[12:43] <Schnap_pi> whats the best way to get a return value of 0 for ' ssh pi@192.168.178.55 "sudo reboot" '? Reboot kills the ssh connection. Return value is 255 in that case.
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[12:46] <drupol> Hi all,
[12:46] <drupol> I'm having trouble to set my keyboard layout on my Pi, how to change those settings without using raspi-config?
[12:47] <drupol> (I never used Debian before)
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[12:51] <Schnap_pi> drupol, you got a monitor?
[12:51] <drupol> Schnap_pi: no, xrdp remote session
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[12:52] <hphuhtin> why not use raspi-config?
[12:52] <drupol> hphuhtin: it doesn't work
[12:52] <hphuhtin> ssh in, it should work
[12:52] <Schnap_pi> drupol ssh connection should work
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[12:52] <drupol> hphuhtin: see: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=122490&p=836754
[12:52] <drupol> Schnap_pi: ok I'm in ssh now
[12:53] <drupol> keyboard is fine there
[12:53] <drupol> But I want to set it for XRDP session, so X11.
[12:53] <Schnap_pi> drupol, you could change the keyboard and then make a diff of the sd card to find a setting
[12:53] <drupol> in /etc/default/keyboard I think
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[14:29] <calston> hello
[14:29] <calston> mirrordirector seems to behaving strangely
[14:29] <Schnap_pi_> yeah
[14:29] <Schnap_pi_> just change it
[14:29] <calston> I did, just checking someone knew :)
[14:29] <Schnap_pi_> :P
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[14:50] <Schnap_pi_> is it possible to resize the sd without reboot?
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[15:07] <n2nn> Schnappi ... lol :D
[15:07] <n2nn> (your nick, not the question)
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[16:22] <Schnappi> the march raspian image has a lot more ports open, february just had ssh, now also pop2. mdbs_daemon, ansoft-lm-2, xrl, abyss and 2 unknown (5544/tcp, 9877/tcp)
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[16:26] <meteorman> hi does anyone know how to change ua string of w3m?
[16:26] <meteorman> i would ask in linux channel but im not registered.
[16:26] <meteorman> -.-
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[16:27] <at0m> meteorman: then /msg nickserv help register
[16:29] <meteorman> yes, I am, but i was looking for a quick answer right quick
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[16:37] <Schnappi> is it possible to let rpi-update just run if a new version is available?
[16:38] <Schnappi> actually I let my update script do an update periodically but it also updates if the current version is already installed which is not efficient
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[17:38] <fred1807> I am using command line only version of Raspbian (via netinst) , how can I clone 1 sd card (that is inserted on one of the usb ports) to 3 other blank sd cards ? Is it okay to use all 4 usb ports at the same time like this? Do I need to mount the sd card? Please help me with better pratices for this task
[17:39] <brianx> you do not mount sdcards when cloning them, make sure they're dismounted.
[17:40] <brianx> yes, if your power supply has enough power, you can use all the ports on the hub. sdcards tend to be pretty low power.
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[17:41] <brianx> to clone, you need to find the sdcard using dmesg | tail -30
[17:42] <brianx> then to actually clone it, use: dd if=/dev/card1 of=/dev/card2 bs=1M
[17:42] <brianx> use the whole device, not the partitions.
[17:42] <brianx> the destination must be as large or larger than the source.
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[17:43] <brianx> to re-read the partitions after cloning and before mounting the destination, run: partprobe /dev/card2
[17:43] <brianx> remember that dd is cached, so before removing the target, run: sync
[17:44] <thurstylark> You can also use cp, cat, pv, or pretty much any other copy tool if (like me) you find dd annoying.
[17:44] <thurstylark> plus, pv gives live progress info :D
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[17:46] <bobbySmurda> Is there anyway to set an automount to optional. I adjusted the fstab to 0,2 and 0,0 but each one if i boot without the external drive i get thrown into emergency mode?
[17:46] <fred1807> nice
[17:47] <fred1807> thurstylark: Will pv give progress over a ssh conection? Will DD be faster?
[17:48] <thurstylark> fred1807: it'll give progress for whatever you pipe through it, so if you stick pv inbetween two things in a pipeline, it'll show progress info.
[17:48] <fred1807> how do I stick it between DD ?
[17:49] <thurstylark> you could even do "dd if=/foo | pv | dd of=/bar"
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[17:49] <thurstylark> fred1807: or you could skip the middle man, and just do 'pv /foo > /bar'
[17:49] <brianx> bash: pv: command not found
[17:50] <thurstylark> brianx: you'll have to install it lol
[17:50] <thurstylark> it's not part of any base install.
[17:50] <brianx> that's the reason for writing instructions to random people using dd.
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[17:51] <thurstylark> brianx: you could also us cp or cat, which is also installed by default and doesn't use dd.
[17:51] <thurstylark> my point stands.
[17:51] <brianx> but then you lose the status information that dd gives on request.
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[17:52] <brianx> killall -INFO dd
[17:54] <thurstylark> Haha, apparently you could use curl as well: http://askubuntu.com/a/250506
[17:54] <thurstylark> genious
[17:54] <thurstylark> *genius
[17:55] <brianx> cute, hadn't thought of that one but it makes sense.
[17:55] * thurstylark realizes the irony of misspelling 'genius'
[17:56] <brianx> i'd have to check how eof is handled by each, i vaguely remember that cp has an issue related to never exiting when copying a device.
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[20:57] <at0m> brianx: please explain
[20:58] <thurstylark> at0m: explain what?
[20:58] <brianx> at0m: not sure how to explain never exiting at eof.
[20:58] <brianx> file ends, command doesn't.
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[20:59] <brianx> type touch x; tail x and it will never end.
[21:00] <at0m> uea, expain that.
[21:00] <brianx> type touch x; tail -f x and it will never end.
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[21:01] <brianx> some programs keep waiting at eof in case the file grows.
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[21:07] <spaceman_> Hello?
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[21:07] <spaceman_> Could someone assist me with a question I have?
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[21:08] <methuzla> spaceman_, just ask, don't ask to ask
[21:10] <spaceman_> I am trying to run this program through a command prompt using C++, and I am having difficulty figuring out how to do so
[21:10] <spaceman_> I have the API folder, and I wish to run it through a connection I have on a separate computer
[21:11] <spaceman_> All of my dependencies have been installed and updated, I just cannot figure out how to compile the code... I am quite new to this
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[21:16] <brianx> spaceman_: if there is a file called Makefile, the usual step is to type make
[21:16] <brianx> some programs need that to be followed with sudo make install
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[21:17] <spaceman_> Yes, there does exist that file. Do I just simply type that in the terminal?
[21:17] <brianx> yep
[21:18] <spaceman_> How do I reference the API however?
[21:18] <brianx> that is program specific. you'll have to actually read their docs.
[21:19] <TunaLobster> I noticed that after typing in my username that is a lengthy pause before the password prompt when I am sshing in. It didn't use to do this. Oh and I don't have internet access from the command line after bridging wlan and eth
[21:19] <spaceman_> Wrong question, I meant how do I specify the makefile
[21:20] <brianx> spaceman_: you don't. make's default is Makefile.
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[21:20] <spaceman_> I don't understand
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[21:22] <spaceman_> If I type in sudo make install I get an error *** No rule to make target 'install'.
[21:22] <brianx> then your particular program doesn't use make install. not all do. just make is often enough.
[21:24] <brianx> type make alone on a line and hit enter. chances are it'll do something useful.
[21:24] <spaceman_> *** No targets specified and no makefile found
[21:24] <spaceman_> Here, let me explain my situation.
[21:25] <spaceman_> I am trying to do a project where I control the raspberry pi through a laptop in order to operate a DSLR camera.
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[21:25] <brianx> you're going to have to read the docs for your program, they didn't use the simple defaults (maybe rightly so)
[21:25] <spaceman_> I have all the documents, demonstrations, and links to the project. Its just I have no clue how to access it from the terminal
[21:26] <methuzla> provide said link(s)
[21:26] <brianx> look for installation instructions in the docs.
[21:27] <spaceman_> There are none sadly
[21:27] <spaceman_> https://github.com/scheckmedia/CameraControllerApi
[21:27] <spaceman_> Here is the API, and here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkMP7_gnoiU
[21:27] <ShorTie> github, so 1st is a 'git clone ....', then cd
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[21:28] <spaceman_> It seems like it should be really simple, but I am unfamiliar
[21:28] <spaceman_> Could I get a step-by-step explanation on how to do this?
[21:29] <methuzla> you are, ShorTie has provided first two
[21:29] <spaceman_> A little bit more simpler than that, I am still lost
[21:30] <ShorTie> git clone https://github.com/scheckmedia/CameraControllerApi.git
[21:30] <methuzla> are you familiar with linux?
[21:31] <ShorTie> cd CameraControllerApi
[21:31] <spaceman_> I am actually just starting out
[21:31] <spaceman_> I want to take the time to learn this all, its just I am pressured to complete this project I am trying to do
[21:32] <methuzla> how are you connected to your pi?
[21:32] <spaceman_> Through WiFi connection by putty
[21:32] <methuzla> and pi is connected to internet?
[21:32] <spaceman_> yes
[21:33] <spaceman_> However I will put a direct connection using an ethernet cable
[21:33] <methuzla> what have you done so far on the pi?
[21:34] <spaceman_> So far absolutely nothing
[21:34] <methuzla> are you currently connected to it via putty?
[21:34] <spaceman_> Yes
[21:35] <spaceman_> so after I write $ cd CameraControllerApi
[21:35] <spaceman_> What do I input after?
[21:35] <methuzla> hold
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[21:36] * ShorTie Thinkz, apt-get the Dependencies
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[21:36] <methuzla> here are the basic commands to run on the pi: http://pastie.org/10771626
[21:36] <spaceman_> I have already installed of them
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[21:37] <methuzla> then skip the second line
[21:37] <brianx> the Makefile doesn't seem to have a default so try make all
[21:38] <spaceman_> I accidentally typed make first
[21:38] <spaceman_> its going through something at the moment
[21:41] <brianx> if make is taking this long, it's probably doing the make all.
[21:41] <spaceman_> Now what exactly does this do?
[21:42] <methuzla> you: (a) cloned a git repo (b) changed directory into it (c) ran make which automates compiling the code
[21:43] <spaceman_> Ok it has finished
[21:44] <spaceman_> To start it do I type ./CameraControllerApi ?
[21:45] <brianx> probably, yes.
[21:45] <methuzla> looks like
[21:45] <spaceman_> says no such file or directory
[21:45] <brianx> then point your laptop's browser at http://raspberryIP:8888/settings?action=list
[21:46] <methuzla> is there a bin directory?
[21:46] <brianx> bin/CameraControllerApi
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[21:49] <spaceman_> I get an error from that link on my laptop
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[21:49] <brianx> did you replace raspberryIP with the address of your raspberry?
[21:49] <methuzla> did you get a message on the pi: "CameraControllerApi listening port "
[21:49] <spaceman_> @methuzla yes
[21:49] <spaceman_> and I am an idiot
[21:50] <spaceman_> No I did not replace it
[21:50] <methuzla> then that
[21:50] <brianx> ...
[21:50] <spaceman_> I did with the IP and still cannot connect
[21:50] <spaceman_> is it the same IP I used with putty?
[21:50] <brianx> yed
[21:50] <brianx> yes even
[21:51] <spaceman_> Cannot be reached
[21:52] <methuzla> what was the exact message you go on the pi when you ran the program?
[21:52] <brianx> and you left the :8888 in, right?
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[21:52] <spaceman_> Yes I left in the 8888
[21:52] <spaceman_> When I ran the program I got the listing port 8888
[21:53] <spaceman_> listening*
[21:53] <methuzla> could try curl on the pi itself
[21:54] <brianx> that would reduce the impact of firewalls.
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[21:54] <brianx> netstat -lanp | grep CameraControllerApi
[21:54] <spaceman_> ?
[21:55] <brianx> the command to make sure it really is listening is netstat -lanp | grep CameraControllerApi
[21:55] <brianx> it should respond with something like:
[21:55] <brianx> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8888 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 8511/CameraControllerApi
[21:55] <spaceman_> I never got another new line
[21:55] <M0SPN> Hey all. Pi 3 here. Installed Raspbian Lite and wpa-supplicant caused instant kernel panic. Now copied Raspbian full version and it just crashes on boot. I'm just dd-ing the img file from Linux. Any $clues?
[21:56] <methuzla> shouldn't. programs running.
[21:56] <spaceman_> after it says listening port 8888 and is not reset
[21:56] <brianx> spaceman_: open another terminal session.
[21:57] <spaceman_> Woah
[21:57] <spaceman_> I got a ton of statements in the terminal
[21:58] <spaceman_> I have found that line you have though
[21:58] <spaceman_> In state LISTEN
[21:59] <brianx> the grep should have reduced that to a line or so.
[21:59] <brianx> but listen is good.
[22:00] <brianx> try curl http://raspberryIP:8888/settings?action=list
[22:00] <brianx> sorry
[22:00] <brianx> try curl http://localhost:8888/settings?action=list
[22:00] <brianx> from the pi itself
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[22:01] <spaceman_> State: Fail
[22:01] <spaceman_> Message: Camera not found
[22:01] <brianx> ok, so it's working.
[22:01] <spaceman_> The camera should be on shouldnt it...
[22:02] <brianx> you've probably got a firewall issue either on the pi or on the laptop.
[22:02] <brianx> of course if you want to use the camera, it has to be on and connected.
[22:03] <spaceman_> The error I get in chrome is that the DNS could not be found
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[22:03] <spaceman_> I can fully disable the firewalls if I need to, I won't be using the internet anyways
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[22:04] <brianx> dns not found is probably a typo in the address.
[22:04] <methuzla> shouldnt need a DNS with an explicit address
[22:04] <spaceman_> I typed in exactly what was written?
[22:04] <brianx> you had to edit the ip address
[22:04] <spaceman_> http://raspberry10.0.0.15:8888/settings?action=list
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[22:05] <methuzla> typo
[22:05] <brianx> http://10.0.0.15:8888/settings?action=list
[22:05] <spaceman_> uhhuh
[22:06] <spaceman_> I get the same response as if it were running on the pi though
[22:06] <spaceman_> State: fail
[22:06] <spaceman_> message: camera not found
[22:06] <brianx> odds are pretty good that the program needs to be configured for your camera.
[22:06] <methuzla> camera on? camera connceted?
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[22:06] <spaceman_> Camera is on and connected
[22:06] <methuzla> camera supported by gphoto2?
[22:06] <spaceman_> How can I tell?
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[22:07] <methuzla> check the list: http://gphoto.sourceforge.net/proj/libgphoto2/support.php
[22:07] <spaceman_> It is supported
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[22:08] <spaceman_> Nevermind, it is not
[22:09] <spaceman_> That renders this API useless then
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[22:14] <spaceman_> I mean, canon t3 rebel is supported, and canon eos is supported
[22:14] <spaceman_> I cannot find my camera, but I see newer ones than the one I have
[22:15] <spaceman_> In that case should I just report it and wait?
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[22:22] <spaceman_> Nevermind again, it is supported, I just do not know why it won't work
[22:24] <M0SPN> I'm really stuck here
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[22:30] <methuzla> spaceman_, maybe install the gphoto2 command line program to sanity check
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[22:30] <M0SPN> Anyone seen wifi on the pi 3 cause a hard & fast crash?
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[22:31] <spaceman_> ?
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[22:32] <methuzla> sudo apt-get install gphoto2
[22:33] <methuzla> gphoto2 --auto-detect
[22:33] <spaceman_> It is working now
[22:33] <spaceman_> Or there is activity in the terminal
[22:33] <spaceman_> But I thought that was taken care of in the dependencies?
[22:34] <methuzla> maybe, not sure if installing the lib also installed the cli
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[22:35] <spaceman_> Still nothing
[22:35] <spaceman_> I get the same error
[22:35] <depressedlogo> Hey anyone here awake enough to answer a idioits question?
[22:36] <M0SPN> What's the idiots question?
[22:37] <depressedlogo> setting up a pc to use as a monitoring system which we will soon change out for a raspberry pi, my boss wants me to put raspbian on the pc
[22:37] <depressedlogo> want to know if this will work
[22:37] <M0SPN> As soon as I try and connect to wifi everything locks up 'unable to reference null pointer' or similar quickly scrolls past then a 'Fixing recursive faul but reboot is neede!'
[22:38] <M0SPN> Raspbian is compiled for ARM
[22:38] <M0SPN> not X86/64
[22:38] <depressedlogo> Thanks
[22:38] <M0SPN> The The closest you could get would be to install debian
[22:39] <klem> However you can download Debian the source Linux system of Raspbian with several different desktop environments for PC from Debian.org
[22:39] <depressedlogo> yeah going to do that.
[22:40] <M0SPN> Someone else must have this wifi bug? Or is my Pi faulty?
[22:41] <spaceman_> When I type in gphoto2 --auto-detect I get -----------------------------
[22:41] <klem> I have not heard of it M0SPN, however there was an early bug in the distro where WIFI wouldn't come up if you didn't boot with an ethernet cable plugged in, then unplug it after boot......that's the only WiFi bug I'm aware of
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[22:42] <M0SPN> ok, doing some more testing, if I connect to an open wlan it works fine
[22:42] <klem> and pretty sure it was fixed some time ago
[22:42] <M0SPN> as soon as I try to use encryption it panics
[22:43] <klem> Raspian?
[22:43] <M0SPN> yup, every time, unable to handle kernel null pointer then locks solid
[22:43] <M0SPN> Raspbian Jessie on a Pi B 3
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[22:43] <M0SPN> If it connects to unsecured wifi I guess the board is OK
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[22:44] <M0SPN> is there a raspbian bugzilla I can check?
[22:44] <M0SPN> don't worry, found it
[22:46] <M0SPN> no obvious bugs relating to this
[22:47] <klem> Hrmm.....thought I had a 3 around here....
[22:48] <M0SPN> I've tried both the lite and full images
[22:48] <M0SPN> same result from both command line and X
[22:49] <M0SPN> (unsure what network manager is used under X)
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[23:00] <spaceman_> I think I have figured out my error
[23:01] <spaceman_> For USB devices, you need the "usb:" port in the list. If you don't see it, check whether you compiled gphoto2 with libusb support and that you have mounted the usbfs (or usbdevfs) on /proc/bus/usb (usbfs applies to Linux systems only).
[23:02] <spaceman_> How do I fix that?
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