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[0:29] <movic> hi guys
[0:29] <movic> i have problem with configuration RPI as router, anyone here who can help?
[0:30] <movic> I'm almost done.
[0:30] <movic> but one little think is pain in **
[0:43] <devster31> thing, what are you using?
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[0:44] <devster31> are you sure you want to use a 10/100 Mbit interface as a router?
[0:45] <devster31> movic: ^
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[0:50] <movic> devster31: yup
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[0:50] <movic> I just need it for weekend
[0:51] <movic> ive got usb lte modem connecten to rpi
[0:51] <movic> everything is configured
[0:51] <movic> but there is no internet connection when im connecting to wifi
[0:51] <movic> and when i ssh into rpi there is internet connection
[0:52] <movic> there is some problem with forwarding, right?
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[1:01] <devster31> I think you need to explicitly share the connection, if you're using USB for the LTE modem you need to configure it to share connection with ethernet/wifi, I'm not sure how to do that though, never used lte modems on the pi
[1:02] <movic> ok, everything is set
[1:02] <movic> iptables for forwarding
[1:02] <movic> etc.
[1:02] <movic> it should work.
[1:03] <movic> i do it the same so many time for forwarding from wlan to eth
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[1:03] <movic> but never with usb stick
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[1:06] <nicolas17> devster31: my Internet connection is 12mbps, I'd totally use a rpi as a router :P
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[1:36] <three_legs> hello everyone
[1:38] <three_legs> Anyone here a really awesome dev that does hardware work with the raspi
[1:38] <three_legs> Because i have a crazy bug
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[1:48] <at0m> three_legs: don't poll, just ask.
[1:50] <three_legs> i'm having a issue with the gpio pins on a raspberry pi. I have a program that activates the gpio pins on when this program runs. The program runs fine as root automaticly however when set to a limited user that only has access to gpio it will fail on boot however run fine if started manually. Now the program isn't set to start untill runlevel two so i don't think it could be a hardware lock. Any ideas ?
[1:50] <three_legs> also at0m polling reduces unnecessary reads :D
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[3:08] <DoyleChris> I need help with mounting a Flash Drive
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[3:08] <DoyleChris> when i install it its under /media/pi/******
[3:09] <DoyleChris> I try to put it in /mnt/32 because its my 32gb stick
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[3:09] <DoyleChris> but i go to put something in it and it says permission denied
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[3:10] <DoyleChris> trying to figure out how to mount it but give pi permission
[3:11] <DoyleChris> anybody
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[3:28] <DoyleChris> anybody there
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[3:30] <Acou_Bass> DoyleChris: what filesystem is on the stick?
[3:30] <DoyleChris> fat32
[3:30] <Acou_Bass> that amybe why then - im not 100% sure if raspbian comes with the thing in it to do fat32 does it? also fat32 is weird on linxu
[3:31] <Acou_Bass> how are you mounting it?
[3:31] <DoyleChris> what about NTFS or do i need to stay with ext3
[3:32] <DoyleChris> i want to still be able to throw it in my windows machine
[3:33] <Acou_Bass> both ntfs and fat32 will work, just gotta mount 'em in a certain way
[3:33] <DoyleChris> i have been searching all day and nothing has worked
[3:34] <DoyleChris> i think i have reloaded raspbian 3 time today
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[9:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:11] <_edw> hey !
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[10:13] <_edw> I'm new in raspberry, i just buy one yesterday.. i can boot on my rasbian. The red led is up and fix, and nothing on the green one.. the problem come from my microsd right ? i don't really know where i have to look at :)
[10:13] <_edw> i can't*
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[10:18] <H4ndy> is your power adaptor strong enough?
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[10:30] <_edw> i use a 2.1amp, but i power my screen with an other one 1amp.. it looks like i have 3.1amp because when i power my screen the red led on the raspberry shows up
[10:30] <_edw> (sorry for my english..)
[10:30] <_edw> you think it's from the power adaptor ?
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[13:46] <diederik> plugwash: On one of my Pi's I'm running Stretch and just got the following warning:
[13:46] <diederik> W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mirrordirector.raspbian.org_raspbian_dists_stretch_InRelease: The repository is insufficiently signed by key A0DA38D0D76E8B5D638872819165938D90FDDD2E (weak digest)
[13:47] <plugwash> mmm
[13:48] <diederik> apt was updated to 1.2.7 yesterday
[13:49] * plugwash thinks there is way too much paranioa about sha1 about
[13:49] * diederik fears that the paranioa is warranted
[13:50] <plugwash> I think the chances of an attacker gaining sufficient control over the release file contents to exploit a collision attack are miniscule
[13:50] <plugwash> so they would need a preimage attack
[13:51] <at0m> plugwash: your repo isn't the only one affected: https://pastee.org/dce8j
[13:51] <diederik> apt still seems to work, so it's no biggie for me. But you'll likely get more reports like mine ;-)
[13:51] <plugwash> noone has come up with a computationally feasable preimage attack on md5, let alone sha1
[13:54] <at0m> https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Apt/Sha1Removal
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[14:00] <plugwash> yeah, we need to fix it, believing that the apt team are being paranoid doesn't mean we don't need to respond before they break our shit
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[14:03] <diederik> Do you still want to change the signing key from Mike Thompson's to a special(ized) key?
[14:04] <plugwash> I probablly should but that is a seperate and more complex issue
[14:04] <diederik> Noticed that that wiki page described a possible procedure to migrate from DSA to RSA
[14:05] <diederik> Ah ok
[14:06] <plugwash> The existing key is 2048R so the key itself is not an immediate problem.
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[14:07] <plugwash> but you are right it would probablly be a good idea to migrate to a new key for stretch
[14:07] <diederik> Stretch is testing after all :P
[14:07] <plugwash> and while i'm at it probablly generate a key for buster and a couple of spare keys
[14:15] <diederik> If one generates a new key, what would be the argument not to go for 4096 bits?
[14:17] <at0m> trade-off between extra cpu cycles and security? (assuming underlying algo's are secure)
[14:18] <at0m> ssh-keygen defaults to 2048
[14:18] <diederik> Is that still relevant?
[14:18] <at0m> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=126892
[14:18] <at0m> "Predictable SSH host keys"
[14:18] <diederik> I noticed that too and is one of the things I change immediately after installing a system
[14:21] <diederik> That thread is one of the reasons the installer now enables it by default :)
[14:22] <at0m> don't remember from when my install dates, but redid the keys anyway
[14:25] <diederik> The change got recently merged into v1.1.x so it was probably a good move ;)
[14:25] <diederik> (Although without hwrng the entropy was surprisingly high)
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[14:34] * plugwash wouldn't put too much stock in entropy estimates spat out by linux
[14:37] <plugwash> the problem with embedded systems is that their boot processes can be incrediblly predictable so what looks random to the kernel isn't nessacerally as random as it looks
[14:40] <at0m> plugwash: so better let it run for some time before trusting the RNG?
[14:41] <at0m> there's no analog audio input here to take least significant bytes... anything else that creates noise, like GPIO?
[14:41] <at0m> but that's probably beyond most users scope
[14:42] <diederik> I did the measuring during the install process in which there is LOTS of network and disk activity, so that's likely not representative for a normal session
[14:42] <plugwash> yeah, raspbian-ua-netinst is probablly much lower risk than a pre-canned image
[14:43] <at0m> but the network and disk is rather predictable, there too, diederik
[14:43] <plugwash> with a pre-canned image that has a key regeneration script you run straight from bootup into key generation without really touching anything external
[14:44] <at0m> plugwash: hence my wondering for dd'ing some GPIO noise to RNG
[14:44] <plugwash> may as well just use the hardware rng
[14:44] <at0m> then again, that's not my forte.
[14:44] <at0m> right
[14:44] <diederik> at0m: I agree that a number of steps are the same for every install sequence, but the users network and sdcard/usb-stick are likely still different
[14:46] <diederik> but afaik it's mostly about interaction with the outside 'world' that generates randomness. After the network connection is made you can see the entropy jump immediately
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[14:48] <plugwash> interaction with the outside world generates what the kernel thinks is randomness
[14:49] <plugwash> the problem comes if the outside world is too predictable the kernel can think it has randomness when it doesn't
[14:49] <plugwash> the good news is the internet doesn't tend to be especially predictable
[14:50] <diederik> I did indeed use /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail to measure it.
[14:52] <plugwash> ok. i've made some configuration changes on the server, repo signatures should use sha256 after the next update run
[14:52] <diederik> thanks :)
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[19:56] <Gjax> is it posible to get skype chat to work on Raspbian?
[19:58] <nicolas17> Gjax: no, there is no skype for Linux/ARM
[19:59] <Gjax> what about pidgin?
[19:59] <Gjax> I just need the chat part..
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[20:00] <Gjax> sad panda....
[20:00] <Acou_Bass> ive always wondered how things like sailfishOS handle the skype in their chat app
[20:00] <Acou_Bass> there must be SOMETHING that makes it work... xD
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[20:02] <Acou_Bass> https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypeweb
[20:02] <Acou_Bass> that could work?
[20:03] <Acou_Bass> i would be happy to test it but i only have bitlbee installed not pidgin (maybe itd work with bitlbee-purple, who knows)
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[20:04] <Gjax> Just seems rather but job to install gcc to complie a plugin
[20:04] <Acou_Bass> do you not already have gcc installed? i thought raspbian came with it
[20:04] <Acou_Bass> ive compiled lots of stuff on my Pi dont ever remember installing gcc xD
[20:04] <Gjax> oh hmm
[20:05] <Gjax> maybe I dont know
[20:05] <Acou_Bass> i reckon itd be worth trying
[20:05] <Acou_Bass> the skypeweb plugin that is - is the same plugin i use on sailfishOS and it works fine for chat (though obviously no video/voice call)
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[20:08] <Gjax> Lame Microsoft as usual..
[20:08] <Acou_Bass> its a bit weird... since they launched web.skype.com its been possible for 3rd-party clients like that one
[20:09] <Acou_Bass> before web.skype.com the only way to do it was the run the skype binaryand just have pidgin feed info to/from it
[20:09] <nicolas17> or reverse engineer the protocol used by the skype binary
[20:09] <Acou_Bass> yeah which i dont think anyones done (though there was a project to try) XD
[20:10] <Gjax> :) everything would be a bit simpler if MS just opened the protocol... but I know that is much to ask
[20:10] <nicolas17> Gjax: why would they do that? :P
[20:10] <Gjax> nothing to loose from it.
[20:10] <Acou_Bass> yeah its a bit sad... facebook dropped XMPP from their chat, google is still *sort of* using XMPP for gtalk but its such a bastardized version that things like group chats no longer work from it
[20:11] <Acou_Bass> no more open standards ;(
[20:12] * nicolas17 uses mostly IRC and Telegram lately
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[20:13] <Acou_Bass> i use all of the above - skype isthe only one i run the official client for though (because i use it for voice/video) - the rest run through bitlbee
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[20:15] <Acou_Bass> i have a telegram but no one i know uses it... so i mostly use it for groupchats like iRC... so i usually just use their IRC instead... XD
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[20:57] <Arius_> I use my raspberry pi to power a reddit bot. When my reddit bot formulates a reply to a comment it fires 100 Steam API calls so he can formulate an answer.
[20:57] <Arius_> is that the cause my bot's high ping? http://i.imgur.com/nPJ1HNm.png
[20:58] <Arius_> I think the bot should be able to handle that but for some reason my bot has very high ping
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[21:32] <odeits> Hello, I was wondering if there was someone who could help me with PaPiRus
[21:33] <odeits> instead of displaying text or anything it seems to be displaying vertical lines of various thickness almost like a messed up barcode
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[21:36] <mustard> Hello
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[21:37] <mustard> Does anyone here have any experience with aircrack-ng?
[21:40] <mustard> Or using two wifi adapters on one pi
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[21:47] <mustard> anyone
[21:50] <gordonDrogon> you might want to ask in #raspberrypi
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[21:51] <espagnol01> hi everyone!
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[21:54] <Gjax> hmm any tips on how to optimize youtube playback?
[21:56] <espagnol01> i installed raspian jessie in a 32GB sd card but when i do df -h I only get like 3,6 GB. I used Win32 Disk Imager to make it booteable. Im I doing something wrong?
[21:56] <Gjax> you likely need to expand the filesystem
[21:57] <at0m> espagnol01: run raspi-config, and expand ^
[21:57] <espagnol01> can i do it over ssh?
[21:57] <Gjax> menu>pref> rasp config
[21:58] <at0m> espagnol01: sure. ssh in, then sudo raspi-config
[21:58] <espagnol01> sudo raspi-config?
[21:58] <espagnol01> great
[21:58] <espagnol01> there was an error running option 1 Expand Filesystem
[21:58] <at0m> what error?
[21:59] <espagnol01> where can i take a look at a log file?
[22:02] <at0m> i think whiptail should show you an error while you're in raspi-config
[22:04] <Gjax> is it posible to optimize youtube playing?
[22:06] <mrkramps> Gjax, Kodi with Youtube addon?
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[22:07] <mrkramps> or a combination of youtube-dl and omxplayer
[22:08] <Gjax> hmm I rather just want it to work in iceweasel
[22:11] <Acou_Bass> doesnt it already? 0,o the html5 video everywhere addon should do fine
[22:15] <Gjax> what is that video everywhere you speak of?
[22:15] <mrkramps> it's an addon
[22:15] <Gjax> for what?
[22:16] <mrkramps> firefox resp. iceweasel
[22:16] <Gjax> raspbian? browser?
[22:16] <Gjax> oh... I will check it out
[22:22] <Gjax> Okay didnt completly fixed my issues but much beter
[22:22] <Gjax> better
[22:23] <nicolas17> does iceweasel even use hardware acceleration?
[22:23] <nicolas17> I thought there was no OpenGL in X
[22:23] <mrkramps> nicolas17, afaik that's still missing
[22:24] <nicolas17> then I don't see how you can possibly have reasonable video framerate in a browser
[22:25] <mrkramps> dunno … i would never use the RPi for such a use case
[22:25] <nicolas17> I tried running http://www.foss4g-ar.org/banner.html on iceweasel on a raspi1, and it was SO slow that I'm rewriting it without web technologies
[22:25] <nicolas17> and that's simply a scrolling page
[22:25] <nicolas17> so can't imagine video
[22:26] <mrkramps> as said, external player with accelerated video decoding
[22:26] <nicolas17> yep
[22:26] <nicolas17> as said, that can't be done within X, can it? :)
[22:27] <Gjax> how do you do that then?
[22:27] <espagnol01> somewhere in the process i did something wrong, cos now i cannot boot to gui
[22:27] <Acou_Bass> ahhh sorry Gjax i was in the #guix IRC and thought we were talking about that - but yeah, there is html5 video everywhere for firefox too hehe
[22:28] <espagnol01> when i try startx, i get: (EE) Fatal server error: (EE) Could not write pid to lock file in /tmp/.tX0-lock
[22:28] <espagnol01> xinit: giving up
[22:28] <espagnol01> xinit: unable to connect to X server: Bad file descriptor
[22:28] <espagnol01> xinit: server error
[22:29] <espagnol01> any ideas how can i get it back?
[22:29] <Gjax> acou_bass sorry for being completly noob. First time with raspbian
[22:29] <mrkramps> espagnol01, check permission of /tmp
[22:29] <Gjax> last time i used debian I used etch... so that is way back.
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[22:30] <mrkramps> Gjax, the RPi is not fully desktop ready yet
[22:30] <mrkramps> wether hardware nor software
[22:30] <espagnol01> chmod u+x /tmp?
[22:30] <mrkramps> espagnol01, i said CHECK _not_ set
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[22:31] <Gjax> I know, still happy with it so far
[22:31] <Gjax> but I still dont get how you play youtube videos with an external player without making the process quite complicated
[22:31] <espagnol01> what is the command? sorry, Im new
[22:32] <Acou_Bass> Gjax: use VLC
[22:32] <Acou_Bass> drag the video URL into a VLC window and itll play
[22:32] <mrkramps> espagnol01, ls -l /tmp
[22:33] <espagnol01> $ ls -l /tmp total 0 -rw------- 1 root root 0 Mar 26 22:23 zbw_connect.priv
[22:33] <Acou_Bass> or even if youre feeling nerdy, fire up a terminal and type cvlc *youtubeurl* hehe
[22:34] <mrkramps> espagnol01, sry: ls -l / | grep tmp
[22:34] <Gjax> one could do that yes
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[22:35] <espagnol01> :~ $ ls -l / | grep tmp drwxrwxrwt 6 root root 4096 Mar 26 22:34 tmp
[22:35] <mrkramps> hmkay, should be writeable then
[22:37] <espagnol01> i will just make the image again
[22:37] <mrkramps> espagnol01, probably the easiest solution
[22:37] <espagnol01> does anybody here ever tried Razberry?
[22:38] <espagnol01> thank you @mrkramps
[22:39] <mrkramps> not at all
[22:40] <Gjax> no raz for me, no z-wave stuff
[22:41] <Gjax> the RPi3 is quite snappy
[22:41] <mrkramps> i don't believe in home automation
[22:41] <Gjax> It might not be complete desktop but still very fast
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[22:53] <espagnol01> why not?
[22:54] <Acou_Bass> yeah i used my pi 3 as a desktop for a few days before i actually started using it, plenty capable for the basics
[22:55] <mrkramps> espagnol01, as most people i would miserably fail securing it
[22:55] <Gjax> the one thing that kind of pisses me of is no skype chat
[22:55] <Gjax> sadly the tech muggles have no chance of knowing about other alternatives
[22:56] <mustardscuffle> I'm done
[22:56] <mustardscuffle> I'm so done
[22:56] <mrkramps> Gjax, you should definitely get a real computer for your tasks
[22:56] <mustardscuffle> WHY DOES WIFI REQUIRE ETHERNET TO BE PLUGGED IN TO WORK
[22:57] <mrkramps> mustardscuffle, https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=81021
[22:58] <mustardscuffle> Thank you
[22:58] <espagnol01> how can i download a file from the terminal?
[22:59] <mrkramps> mustardscuffle, just copied your capitals and pasted it right into search bar
[22:59] <mrkramps> espagnol01, wget
[22:59] <espagnol01> wget -O - "http://" ??
[22:59] <espagnol01> en algunas partes dice: wget -O hooray "http://
[22:59] <mustardscuffle> mrkramps I am ashamed
[23:00] <mrkramps> ;)
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[23:00] <mrkramps> mustardscuffle, no idea if the links will really help but thread titel and your question just match
[23:00] <mrkramps> espagnol01, have a look at:$ man wget
[23:01] <mrkramps> and i lied … of course i've added a "raspberry pi" to the search query
[23:02] <mustardscuffle> ah
[23:02] <mustardscuffle> well it worked
[23:02] <mrkramps> glad to hear :)
[23:02] <mustardscuffle> I've been searching for the last hour
[23:02] <mustardscuffle> Note to self: shout at google for maximum efficacy
[23:02] <mrkramps> =D
[23:03] <mrkramps> your first step to master google fu
[23:04] <mustardscuffle> *cuts to dojo high in the mountains, where nerds frantically google*
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[23:29] <mustardscuffle> well
[23:29] <mustardscuffle> Now I can fix the problem manually
[23:29] <mustardscuffle> Which is fine but it doesn't survive a reboot
[23:36] <xtort-> can you describe how you fix the problem manually? i can probably point you to a way to make it permanent
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