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[2:02] <binaryhermit> /me wonders what the pishutdown package that an apt-get dist-upgrade pulled in is
[2:02] <binaryhermit> err
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[4:51] <elisa87_> can you please have a look at this question? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36324300/ensure-that-target-device-has-developer-mode-enabled-could-not-obtain-a-develop
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[6:31] <lifeofhope> I am using epiphany browser and I need to make it fullscreen in startup.
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[8:23] <Alpy94> hello
[8:23] <Alpy94> I just bought a Raspberry Pi 3 and I have a question
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[8:24] <Alpy94> I put NOOBS on my sd card, and inserted it into my Raspberry pi
[8:24] <Alpy94> How long does it take to BOOT up?
[8:25] <Alpy94> Also, does the light change colours?
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[8:31] <Alpy94> yooo anybody here?
[8:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[8:32] <Alpy94> sup?
[8:32] <Alpy94> I might be having some problems
[8:33] <Alpy94> I don't have a monitor, or keyboard to spare for the time being, so I am trying to set up my RBPi 3 with them
[8:34] <Alpy94> *without them
[8:34] <lordievader> That is rather difficult but doable.
[8:35] <lordievader> You could make a fully working image in Qemu, and then transer it to the Pi.
[8:36] <Alpy94> A quick question, which LEDs are supposed to be on ?
[8:36] <Alpy94> I read that it is possible with SSH with some modifications to the card itself
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[9:43] <ShorTie> not need to mod for ssh
[9:43] <ShorTie> just need to give it a minute or 2 to kick in
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[10:35] <mia_> Hey all -- I use ubuntu, and I want to sshfs to my rpi 3. I've installed sshfs and successfully mounted the pi user however this does not allow me to edit files that are not under the homefolder of pi
[10:35] <mia_> How should I deal with this ?
[10:35] <mia_> Normally over the console I use the sudo command to edit files, for instance sudo nano aaa
[10:35] <mia_> but when I'm over sshfs since it's logged in as the pi user (I assume) I can't edit the files
[10:35] <at0m> mia_: so edit as root, you'd ssh in then sudo edit
[10:36] <at0m> or sudo sshfs mount, which i wouldn't advise, cos root should probably not be able to ssh in
[10:36] <mia_> at0m, I don't ant to use console to edit files, that's the whole point of me trying sshfs instead of using console
[10:36] <mia_> I use sublime and I don't like console text editors
[10:36] <mia_> sudo sshfs mount does not log you in as sudo
[10:37] <at0m> mia_: you could copy the files locally, then copy back to /home/pi and cat them back to their original dest
[10:37] <at0m> mia_: then sudo su and sshfs
[10:37] <mia_> hmm too much command line manual work
[10:37] <at0m> i don't like sudo much cos it's not real root
[10:37] <at0m> sudo su is
[10:38] <mia_> well is ther a way to "sudo" open the files over sshfs, when you already mounted a certain remote disk
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[11:28] <pi2> help/
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[11:29] <shiftplusone> pi2: tried turning it off and on again?
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[11:30] <pVo> guys, I have a rPi3 and tried to upgrade packages from the stretch repo. So I borke the mate desktop environment because it lacks dependancies
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[11:30] <pVo> how can I go back to the old mate?
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[11:42] <shiftplusone> bad idea.
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[11:43] <shiftplusone> the simplest answer is start again
[11:43] <shiftplusone> otherwise, sort out the mess by downgrading packages. apt-cache policy can tell you the available versions of a package and you can use = to specify which one you want to install, for example.
[11:43] <shiftplusone> There are probably better ways, but still.
[11:46] <pVo> I don't have set the non-free repo tho
[11:46] <pVo> is maybe this the reason?
[11:48] <pVo> http://hnng.moe/f/9nJ
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[11:50] <shiftplusone> the problem is that that line exists at all
[11:50] <pVo> I wanted to update some packages
[11:50] <shiftplusone> It doesn't work that way.
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[11:51] <pVo> well I just have to wait for stretch to became stable then
[11:51] <shiftplusone> Here's the proper way to do it and it won't work on all packages... I certainly don't expect it to work with MATE. https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
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[13:13] <shiftplusone> plugwash: ahoy. Sorry about the noise about NEON earlier. Didn't know you were already way ahead.
[13:14] <plugwash> I wouldn't say I was "way ahead", it seems we both started looking at it at about the same time
[13:14] <shiftplusone> I do quite like this hwcaps support ld.so has though. Quite nifty.
[13:15] * plugwash is currently investigating fftw3
[13:16] <plugwash> Yeah, hwcaps is a sensible approach for something like neon that can be a massive performance boost when targetted right but is a relatively niche feature
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[15:38] <shiftplusone> diederik: spent some of yesterday getting a headers package sorted. Merged it back into raspberrypi-firmware and also split the kernel from raspberrypi-bootloader into raspberrypi-kernel. Building the lot now to test it again.
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[15:47] <plugwash> shiftplusone, does the headers package work with dkms?
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[15:48] <shiftplusone> Getting all of that figured out is the next step. I installed a dkms package, but the source itself wouldn't build against 4.1, so it failed. Thinking of making a dkms package for one of the unsupported wifi modules as an example to test with.
[15:49] <shiftplusone> one thing I noticed was that without --no-install-recommends, it tried to pull in the raspbian headers package instead.
[15:49] <shiftplusone> (the dkms package itself does)
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[16:02] <diederik> shiftplusone: sounds awesome, thanks!
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[16:03] <diederik> what you need to do in the headers package is have a 'Provides: linux-headers' line, that way it will satisfy the (main) recommends of the dkms package
[16:03] * plugwash looks again at his original post in the neon thread and notices he missed libvpx, I guess that one is next
[16:05] <diederik> that was also a problem with linux-headers-3.18.0-trunk-rpi[2] package (https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian/+bug/1532559)
[16:05] <diederik> s/was/is/
[16:05] <shiftplusone> diederik: yeah, but https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt says it should be kernel-headers.
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[16:06] <diederik> I just looked at 'aptitude show dkms | grep Recommends'
[16:06] <shiftplusone> So I was confused by dkms' usage of linux-headers instead.
[16:07] * plugwash guesses the docs are just out of date
[16:07] <plugwash> some time ago there was a big rename of the linux kernel related packages in debian from kernel-* to linux-*
[16:08] <diederik> I'd have to dig into that to figure it out, but on debian you normally have 'linux-image-*' and 'linux-headers-*' packages
[16:08] * diederik thinks plugwash is likely right
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[16:08] <diederik> the document is dated February 2012 ...
[16:11] <shiftplusone> It matches what's in debian-policy 3.9.5
[16:12] <shiftplusone> The file itself is linked from 3.9.7.0 online
[16:12] <plugwash> Debian policy isn't always known for matching reality
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[16:13] <shiftplusone> ah
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[16:41] <plugwash> holy crap the difference in speed for my fft test between the pi1 and pi2 is *massive*
[16:41] <plugwash> (and this is before enabling neon support)
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[17:17] <Mafoo> Good Evening
[17:18] <Mafoo> I have one of my Pi's up and running as a network audio player, all working terrific, however i was wondering, does anyone know a way under Linux to monitor if the sound card is in use, my thought being when in use it will cause the pi to turn on the attached amp's power, and when it goes idle turn it off after 2 mins?
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[18:13] <ries> Mafoo: google told me raspberry detect when audio is in use
[18:13] <ries> Not sure if that means that audio os actually comming out of the plug..
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[18:36] <Mafoo> Well i think i found a way
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[18:37] <Mafoo> the file /proc/asound/card*/pcm*/sub*/status contains the card status it switches to state:RUNNING when in use
[18:37] <ries> nice
[18:37] <Mafoo> i just need to write a effcient monitor of that file and then control the GPIO based on that
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[19:22] <lsm5> hi, i'm on RPi 3, testing repos enabled, have a NETGEAR WG111v3 USB wifi dongle as my wlan0, 'nmcli dev wifi' doesn't show me any networks though, is this a known issue?
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[21:00] <crosvera> hello there people
[21:07] <crosvera> People, have you ever experimented a decrease in the PiDisplay resolution, originally is 800x480, but suddenly my rpi reports 720x480
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