#raspbian IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-04-10

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[0:31] <c-pin> any good irc clients for pi?
[0:32] <FreeRender> assuming rasbian os?
[0:32] <FreeRender> but, console? gtk? qt?
[0:32] <c-pin> yeah raspbian
[0:33] <c-pin> if qt is more customizable than gtk then qt
[0:33] <FreeRender> well what window manager are you using?
[0:33] <FreeRender> gnome or mate?
[0:33] <FreeRender> errr i mean those are for ubuntu. please hold
[0:33] <c-pin> idk i just installed jessie and thats where im at
[0:34] <FreeRender> will you be simply using a screen and mouse/keyboard with they pi?
[0:34] <c-pin> yesd
[0:34] <FreeRender> i personally prefer xchat
[0:34] <c-pin> paid?
[0:34] <c-pin> or is it in the repos
[0:34] <FreeRender> they are weird fellows
[0:34] <FreeRender> simple answer, yes its in there (i think??)
[0:35] <c-pin> cool. hexchat vs xchat, i can deal
[0:35] <c-pin> lemme download some sort of an xchat and put it on the pi
[0:35] <FreeRender> long answer is, its free for linux and is open source but to get the latest version on windows u have to pay
[0:35] <c-pin> where is my thing adapter...
[0:35] <c-pin> ok i can dig that then
[0:35] <FreeRender> ive heard good things about hexchat but i stick with xchat
[0:36] <FreeRender> i like xchat because it has a python scripting thing which is fun to play with sometimes
[0:36] <FreeRender> (also tcl and lua)
[0:36] <FreeRender> (sorry, i mean tcl an perl)
[0:38] <FreeRender> (also is probably a good idea to use HEXchat, because xchat hasnt seen a release since 2010 but i am stuck in my ways. u actually just got me looking at making the switch)
[0:41] <FreeRender> PROTIP: hexchat IS NOT available in the repos for rasbian as of 2014. a current version appears to be there now, though.
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[0:44] <nutunless> hello from hexchat 2.10 on ubuntu (x64) ! am i one of the cool kids now ?
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[0:51] <nutunless> yousir@aComputer:~$ uname -a #i stole this script from https://github.com/GermainZ/HexChat-Scripts
[0:51] <nutunless> #exec uname -a
[0:51] <nutunless> Linux aComputer 4.5.0lulmor #4 SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 1 06:27:34 MDT 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[0:55] <nutunless> yousir@aComputer:~$ free -h #i stole this script from https://github.com/GermainZ/HexChat-Scripts
[0:55] <nutunless> #exec free -h
[0:55] <nutunless> total used free shared buffers cached
[0:55] <nutunless> Mem: 15G 14G 1.6G 56M 261M 7.5G
[0:55] <nutunless> -/+ buffers/cache: 6.3G 9.3G
[0:55] <nutunless> Swap: 15G 4.0M 15G
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[1:18] <c-pin> if hexchat is available for raspbian ill do it
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[1:22] <Tachgone> it is
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[2:01] <binaryhermit> nutunless: I take it you're not running that script on a RPi
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[2:01] <binaryhermit> I mean, 15 GB of RAM?
[2:02] <binaryhermit> (well, probably 16 GB minus some RAM rounded down to 15)
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[2:34] <nutunless> binaryhermit, lol this thing is rediculous dude i went over the top. xmas present to myself...16gb ddr4 ram; intel i7-6700k (4.0ghz quad, skylake); nvidia gtx 970 with ??gb (3/6?) gddr5; msi z170 mobo; $40 blu-ray/dvd/cd RW drive because at this point, fluxbox it
[2:36] <nutunless> binaryhermit, because steam4linux came out; 300fps with anything open on CS:GO?? (BO3 got ~40fps based on ,\,, testing); your logic is invalid
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[2:47] <nutunless> yousir@aComputer:~$ df -h | grep -E '^(/dev/|F)' #i stole this script from https://github.com/GermainZ/HexChat-Scripts
[2:47] <nutunless> #exec df -h | grep -E '^(/dev/|F)'
[2:47] <nutunless> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[2:47] <nutunless> /dev/sdb2 424G 70G 333G 18% /
[2:47] <nutunless> /dev/sdb1 511M 3.4M 508M 1% /boot/efi
[2:47] <nutunless> /dev/dm-1 917G 41G 830G 5% /media/yousir/terraswag
[2:47] <nutunless> /dev/dm-2 110G 60M 105G 1% /media/yousir/oczilator
[2:47] <nutunless> /dev/dm-3 5.5T 775G 4.4T 15% /media/yousir/sweg
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[2:50] <nutunless> actually this is probably better assuming links are allowed, because who the fuck actually reads the rules http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1604014-KH-LULMOR32825
[2:52] <nutunless> (thats without overclocking anything, but thats there and stuff...ok im going to play csgo because im blowing up this channel and its awkward)
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[3:14] <nutunless> c-pin, PROTIP: export CELLO=$(tput clear); export VIOLA=$(tput setaf 3); echo ${VIOLA} updating system ${CELLO}; sudo apt-get -y update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade; echo ${VIOLA} installing hexchat ${CELLO}; sudo apt-get -y install hexchat; echo ${VIOLA} launching hexchat! have fun! ${CELLO}; echo hexchat
[3:15] <nutunless> c-pin, PROTIP: export CELLO=$(tput clear); export VIOLA=$(tput setaf 3); echo ${VIOLA} updating system ${CELLO}; sudo apt-get -y update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade; echo ${VIOLA} installing hexchat ${CELLO}; sudo apt-get -y install hexchat; echo ${VIOLA} launching hexchat! have fun! ${CELLO}; hexchat # oops use THIS ONE...had an extra "echo" up there
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[4:07] <c-pin> thx nutunless
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[6:19] <john_rambo> Update is failing ..... Please have a look http://paste2.org/7HLHvNW8 and tell me whats happening
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[7:08] <intore> hi guys, i installed raspbian jessie img on a sd card for my raspberry and after boot it, nano command gives me many errors like "Error in /usr/share/nano/perl.nanorc ... command liblcms2-2 not understood" or command (square) not understood. Do you have ideas about? after pressing enter it edits the file
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[9:09] <john_rambo> Cant update http://paste2.org/XYBppMGD
[9:13] <john_rambo> Anyone ?
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[9:28] <at0m> john_rambo: there's an issue with mirror director at the moment
[9:29] <at0m> john_rambo: i use one of the mirrors in my sources.list, bypassing the mirror director
[9:29] <at0m> but the problem's come up many times his for a week or so
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[11:12] <raphydaphy> hi
[11:12] <raphydaphy> Does http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/logitech-z120-speakers-2-0-inlogz120 this speaker work with Raspberry Pi / Raspbarian?
[11:14] <at0m> raphydaphy: i don't see why not
[11:14] <raphydaphy> ok thanks :)
[11:16] <at0m> raphydaphy: if you plan on powering them via the rpi's usb, make sure you got a strong enough PSU. maybe use a PSU that has 2 USB charging ports, and connect the speakers to the other port on the PSU
[11:17] <raphydaphy> i have a powered usb hub
[11:17] <at0m> that should do then
[11:17] <raphydaphy> but i think i should use bluetooth speakers to eliminate the need to power them (use battery)
[11:18] <MITI> Hi, there is a cnc software available for Raspberry? I use L298N cip to control bipolar motor.
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[12:41] <gin> MITI: to control the motordriver?
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[12:45] <MITI> Gin, yes, i control one motor with python, but i want to control 3, to make a cnc
[12:47] <MITI> with python i can`t control 3 stepper in the same time
[12:48] <MITI> i need a soft with gcode or something.
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[12:51] <gin> MITI: GBRL is what your looking for I think
[12:52] <gin> but that translates g-code for the cnc, you still need some motordriver to control the motors
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[12:53] <MITI> yes, i know, i have L298N drivers
[12:54] <MITI> but, use 4 input pins, not 2 like GBRL step/dir
[12:55] <gin> I looked quickly on home brewed cnc mills, they seem to use rpi to read gcode, and some arduino to control the motors
[12:55] <gin> MITI: https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki/Connecting-Grbl
[12:56] <MITI> Well.. i nedd other drives
[12:57] <MITI> NOT SUPPORTED: H-bridge drivers
[12:59] <gin> MITI: http://projects-raspberry.com/raspberry-pi-l298n-dual-h-bridge-dc-motor/
[13:02] <gin> MITI: https://github.com/Protoneer/grbl-master/wiki/H-Bridge-as-stepper-driver
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[13:04] <MITI> Thankyou, gin i give a try
[13:05] <gin> MITI: I think its alot easier to use a arduino tho
[13:06] <MITI> Yes, it is
[13:06] <MITI> I`m gone buy one
[13:08] <gordonDrogon> personally, I'd forget trying to use any user-land code (Python, C, BASIC, ASM) on the Pi to try to control steppers for CNC use. You will encounter jitter issues that will stop the motors turning smoothley.
[13:09] <gordonDrogon> there are DMA GPIO drivers that may help here though.
[13:09] <gordonDrogon> however - I'd strongly suggest dumping the H bridge chips and using decent stepper motor control chips.
[13:09] <gordonDrogon> then it's just 2 pins from the controller - direction and pulse. (the jitter still applies though).
[13:11] <MITI> i`m gone try with TB6560
[13:12] <MITI> or.. i just make it without rasp.. to use just on pc
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[13:14] <gordonDrogon> I've used these in the past for driving things like 3D printers, etc.: https://www.pololu.com/product/2133
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[13:15] <gordonDrogon> may not be beefy enough for big CNC applications though.
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[13:32] <c-pin> forgot what the best client for raspbian was
[13:32] <c-pin> was it hexchat?
[13:33] <c-pin> http://i.imgur.com/08dB7I4.png
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[13:36] <gordonDrogon> best is subjective. I use xchat.
[13:39] <PhotoJim> I use irssi... it'd run gloriously on a modest machine like a Pi
[13:39] <PhotoJim> it's console-based
[13:39] <matthias-> for irc?
[13:39] <matthias-> irssi is best
[13:39] <PhotoJim> and yes, it's highly subjective
[13:39] <matthias-> been best
[13:40] <matthias-> or lice
[13:40] <PhotoJim> some like weechat in the console... it's more resource-hungry than irssi
[13:40] <PhotoJim> irssi will run well on a 486. no joke.
[13:40] <c-pin> oh well crap
[13:40] <matthias-> well, you can run irssi on a fridge with obsd
[13:40] <PhotoJim> pretty much
[13:41] <matthias-> or _anything_ with a cpu
[13:41] <matthias-> so yeah :-)
[13:41] <PhotoJim> well, it doesn't run on Commodore 8-bits yet :)
[13:41] <c-pin> this is a pi zero so i guess i should be worried about that
[13:41] * PhotoJim digs out his 40 kB VIC-20... that's 8 times the original RAM!
[13:41] <c-pin> irssi gets updates for raspbian?
[13:41] <PhotoJim> c-pin: yes
[13:41] <c-pin> sexy
[13:41] <PhotoJim> c-pin: slow but steady updates... recently updated
[13:42] <matthias-> PhotoJim: netbsd can run on an 8bit system = can run irrsi
[13:42] <matthias-> :>
[13:42] <PhotoJim> matthias-: not on the 6502 :) but if it did that would be fun
[13:42] <c-pin> hm... ok ill do irssi
[13:43] <PhotoJim> c-pin: there's a bit of a learning curve but you can configure it pretty nicely once you get a sense of how the config file works. config is stored in ~/.irssi/config
[13:43] <c-pin> gods
[13:43] <c-pin> i gotta deal with config files now... hm
[13:43] <matthias-> mmm maybe PhotoJim
[13:43] <PhotoJim> it'll run nicely without special configuration though
[13:43] <matthias-> i cant get my LCD to work
[13:43] <c-pin> hell im always willing to learn
[13:43] <c-pin> so where's the package for irssi?
[13:43] <matthias-> or figure out what to use my new Pi for for that matter lol
[13:43] <matthias-> c-pin: sudo apt-get install irssi
[13:43] <PhotoJim> c-pin: you can eventually get it so that when you type "irssi" it'll connect to all your servers, do your passwords, and connect to all your channels automatically
[13:44] <matthias-> Or you can run it in screen
[13:44] <c-pin> wow
[13:44] <PhotoJim> c-pin: also if you want a persistent session you might want to look at GNU screen or tmux... they'll let you disconnect from a running session and connect again from elsewhere
[13:44] <matthias-> so that it's _always on_ while your system is on
[13:44] <PhotoJim> exactly
[13:44] <matthias-> anyway, bbl
[13:44] <PhotoJim> I use tmux... GNU screen is a little easier to learn but not as powerful
[13:44] <matthias-> 15:56 -!- Irssi: Uptime: 148d 15h 33m 21s
[13:44] <matthias-> ;]
[13:44] <PhotoJim> I still use GNU screen as my serial terminal though :) screen /dev/ttyUSB0 230400 :)
[13:44] <c-pin> youll have to walk me through all that stuff
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[13:45] <c-pin> most complicated thing ive done is get emacs to work with irc
[13:45] <PhotoJim> my session is just under 14 days but I just updated my SheevaPlug (where I run irssi) to Debian Jessie and had to reboot
[13:45] <c-pin> and zork
[13:45] <at0m> matthias-: no glibc reboot? ;]
[13:45] <PhotoJim> c-pin: Zork? check out frotz :) (and yes it runs on the Pi)
[13:45] <c-pin> what if i could use the pi zero as a bouncer
[13:46] <c-pin> oh cool ill check it oot
[13:46] <c-pin> sadly my first experience was the pi zero but its more fun than id expected
[13:46] <PhotoJim> you can do a bouncer but you don't do it with irssi. and with irssu + GNU screen or tmux you don't need a bouncer
[13:46] <c-pin> they said explicitly dont use the pi zero first
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[13:46] <at0m> PhotoJim: you can use irssi as a bouncer if you'd like
[13:46] <c-pin> is tmux more powerful?
[13:46] <PhotoJim> at0m: oh, can you?
[13:46] <at0m> PhotoJim: /set proxy
[13:47] <PhotoJim> c-pin: I think so, you can do more elegant window splitting and such.
[13:47] <PhotoJim> at0m: oh, cool.
[13:47] <c-pin> window splitting
[13:47] <c-pin> sure lets get irssi and tmux setup then
[13:47] <PhotoJim> c-pin: yes, you can divide windows top/bottom or side/side, or into multiples
[13:47] <c-pin> jesus my ethereum miner is trying to sync the blockchain
[13:47] <c-pin> oh nice
[13:48] <c-pin> pi zero: 5 dollars for the machine, 30 dollars in periphs
[13:48] <at0m> bitlbee does mqtt (facebook), gtalk, twitter and what not. then connect irssi to the bitlbee...
[13:48] <PhotoJim> c-pin: and you can have multiple windows that you can cycle through with ^B -> or ^B -< or ^B w (choose in list) or ^B (number-of-screen)
[13:48] <c-pin> thats already confusing
[13:48] <c-pin> irssi processing triggers...
[13:48] <PhotoJim> c-pin: you can go bck one, forward one, select form a list or go directly to another window
[13:48] <c-pin> ah gotcha
[13:49] <c-pin> is it anything like i3? cause i hated i3
[13:49] <PhotoJim> c-pin: all my *nix boxes have a separate screen in tmux so I can maintain/monitor them, e.g. IRC is screen 0, my server is 1, my router is 2, ...
[13:49] <c-pin> ooooh
[13:49] <PhotoJim> I don't know i3 except as an Intel CPU
[13:49] <c-pin> gods bless it is like i3 then
[13:49] <c-pin> i3 is a window manager for linux
[13:49] <c-pin> had it when i was using manjaro
[13:49] <PhotoJim> well this is a console manager of sorts
[13:50] <PhotoJim> it's all text
[13:50] <c-pin> good good
[13:50] <PhotoJim> you could run it on a dialup console if you wanted :)
[13:50] <PhotoJim> no GUI required
[13:50] <c-pin> damn i need a case for this little card but i dont wanna spend any more money yet
[13:50] <at0m> c-pin: use your old lego's ;)
[13:50] <c-pin> gave em away
[13:51] <PhotoJim> c-pin: if you have it hidden somewhere you don't need a case :) ssh into it from your laptop
[13:51] <c-pin> its sitting on my ikea desk
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[13:52] <c-pin> ok we're done
[13:52] <c-pin> now for tmux
[13:53] <c-pin> tmux and irssi installed
[13:53] <c-pin> time to deal witht he learning curve
[13:53] <PhotoJim> c-pin: my IRC SheevaPlug is sitting behind a piece of furniture near my home theatre cabinet in the living room. there's a 16-port switch there to connect all the bits and bobs in that system and the SheevaPlug is connected to that switch and plugged right into a UPS (it's basically an oversided power brick).
[13:53] <PhotoJim> yep,
[13:53] <PhotoJim> be patient, but I think in the long run you might like it
[13:54] <c-pin> nice
[13:54] <c-pin> ok where do i start...
[13:54] <c-pin> gotta first get into tmux or irssi or which one am i configuring first
[13:54] <PhotoJim> tmux first
[13:54] <PhotoJim> then run what you want to persist inside tmux
[13:55] <c-pin> ok i ran the command tmux
[13:55] <c-pin> now i got a tmux terminal
[13:55] <PhotoJim> and now you have a persistent shell
[13:55] <PhotoJim> so now run irssi
[13:55] <c-pin> yay
[13:55] <PhotoJim> ^B D to disconnect
[13:55] <c-pin> now we're in irssi
[13:55] <PhotoJim> tmux attach to reattach
[13:55] <c-pin> whats ^B
[13:55] <PhotoJim> control-B
[13:55] <PhotoJim> control- is often denoted as ^
[13:55] <c-pin> disconnect didnt do anything
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[13:56] <PhotoJim> ^b d (lowercase, sorry)
[13:56] <PhotoJim> control-B and then d, no other keys
[13:56] <PhotoJim> control has to be held while you press b
[13:56] <PhotoJim> then let go of control and b, and press d :)
[13:56] <c-pin> oh there we go
[13:56] <c-pin> whered it go?!
[13:56] <PhotoJim> it's detached
[13:56] <PhotoJim> type tmux attach
[13:57] <c-pin> hm...
[13:57] <c-pin> why would i want a screen detached then
[13:57] <c-pin> it just goes away
[13:57] <PhotoJim> so you can log out and go do your life
[13:57] <c-pin> ah gotcha
[13:57] <PhotoJim> maybe you're logged in from a portable machine elsewhere
[13:57] <PhotoJim> I've logged into my chatting SheevaPlug from across the world, many times
[13:57] <c-pin> nice nice
[13:57] <c-pin> uh... ok now what
[13:57] <c-pin> i got the irc client, i got tmux
[13:57] <PhotoJim> it's in western Canada and it's been used from about 18 states and all ten provinces in Canada and UK, France and Switzerland :)
[13:58] <c-pin> wow
[13:58] <PhotoJim> now configure irssi to your servers and channels
[13:58] <PhotoJim> and get used to it
[13:58] <c-pin> where is the config?
[13:58] <c-pin> its a terminal
[13:58] <PhotoJim> you don't need irssi within tmux, but you can leave it running
[13:58] <PhotoJim> the config is in your home directory in the .irssi folder
[13:58] <c-pin> ah
[13:58] <PhotoJim> ~/.irssi/config is the name of it
[13:58] <PhotoJim> ~ is short for /home/yourusername ... and you can use it in a shell and it will go there
[13:59] <PhotoJim> so in my case it's /home/jim/.irssi/config
[13:59] <c-pin> hm there isnt a config filwe
[13:59] <c-pin> im in home.pi
[13:59] <c-pin> home/pi/irssi*
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[14:00] <PhotoJim> it's probably using the default config which will be in /etc somewhere, but don't edit that until you know what you're doing
[14:00] <PhotoJim> one sec
[14:00] <PhotoJim> ... /save makes a config file based on what you have set in irssi
[14:00] <PhotoJim> do some googling, there are some howtos about how to configure it
[14:00] <PhotoJim> you can configure it within irssi, or if you know what you're doing you can edit that config file directly
[14:00] <PhotoJim> ... /save will generate a config file
[14:01] <PhotoJim> probably better to do it all within irssi though
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[14:10] <c-pin> ok we got the file
[14:11] <c-pin> wellp im gonna leave that alone for a while
[14:11] <c-pin> just gonna sit on this and think for a while
[14:13] <c-pin> hm...
[14:13] <c-pin> so i tried to join raspbian but now im in the nickserv window
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[14:14] <c-pinpi> ok im in
[14:14] <PhotoJim> you can use the alt key (hold it down) and press numbers 1-0 to select each appropriate window within irssi
[14:14] <c-pin> thx
[14:14] <PhotoJim> and q through p work as well for 11-19 or whatever
[14:15] <c-pin> uh... so im in but lol my sharp key is a pound sing
[14:15] <c-pin> sign*
[14:15] <c-pin> literal pound like the gbp
[14:15] <PhotoJim> you can also press escape, let go, and press 1-0 and q-p if you don't have alt, or prefer to use escape
[14:15] <c-pin> cool cool
[14:15] <PhotoJim> I think the Pi defaults to using a UK English keymap
[14:15] <c-pin> wow
[14:15] <PhotoJim> if you prefer American, you can override it
[14:15] <c-pin> is there a us keymap?
[14:16] <PhotoJim> yes
[14:16] <PhotoJim> google "debian change keymap"... Raspbian is a Debian derivative
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[14:18] <c-pin> got it
[14:18] <c-pin> used the nano
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[14:19] <c-pin> and we're good!
[14:19] <PhotoJim> cool
[14:20] <c-pin> ok now we can stop for a while
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[14:40] <PhotoJim> bbl
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[14:58] <tuck> hi there
[15:00] <tuck> I've just received a PI 3, and try to understand something about wifi
[15:00] <tuck> I've got strange errors
[15:00] <tuck> like
[15:01] <tuck> [ 6.605994] brcmfmac: brcmf_sdio_drivestrengthinit: No SDIO Drive strength init done for chip 43430 rev 1 pmurev 24
[15:01] <tuck> [ 6.606575] usbcore: registered new interface driver brcmfmac
[15:01] <tuck> [ 6.779189] random: nonblocking pool is initialized
[15:01] <tuck> [ 6.790425] brcmfmac: brcmf_c_preinit_dcmds: Firmware version = wl0: Dec 15 2015 18:10:45 version (r606571) FWID 01-cc4eda9c
[15:01] <tuck> [ 6.809644] brcmfmac: brcmf_cfg80211_reg_notifier: not a ISO3166 code
[15:01] <tuck> [ 7.009346] brcmfmac: brcmf_cfg80211_reg_notifier: not a ISO3166 code
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[15:04] <migario> tuck: more then 3 lines to past into a forum ? try pastebin.com. At least configure your chat client to prevent from flooding
[15:04] <tuck> sorry :) awkward copy/past
[15:04] <migario> np
[15:05] <tuck> but tell me
[15:05] <tuck> why there's to wifi interface
[15:05] <tuck> defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:05] <tuck> wlan0 and wlan1
[15:05] <migario> sorry tuck. to that question i have unfortunately no answer
[15:05] <tuck> it seems related to the fact kern complains when mounting interfaces
[15:05] <tuck> oki
[15:06] <tuck> BTW, pi3 seems really cool
[15:06] <tuck> :)
[15:06] <migario> there are a lot of bright people in here, so have a wait maybe someone will be able to respond
[15:06] <migario> yeah i know. got mine a couple of days ago :-)
[15:07] <tuck> I bought one to migrate my old calendarserver
[15:07] <tuck> on it
[15:08] <tuck> now it's really superfast :-D
[15:08] <tuck> from pi1 to pi3 the gap is huge
[15:09] <migario> dunno, i never managed to get hands on one myself. Never had the time. i believe you in a blips, as there are a lot of improvements hw wise
[15:12] <tuck> does any knows how to reduce wifi and bluetooth power consumption on pi3 ?
[15:13] <tuck> another way to ask this : how tot disable wifi/bluetooth ?
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[15:15] <migario> tuck: havent's found an answeryet. you can disable the daeomons for it, but that's all for now afaik
[15:16] <tuck> oki :)
[15:17] <tuck> I'm pretty sure this question will be solved on time :)
[15:17] <tuck> it'll be mandatory in the futur
[15:18] <migario> you might find that pi3 is not that widely in use. still some issues here and there. keep an eye on the pi forums, especially when having pi3 related issues. It took me me a whole day to figure out pi didn't booted with delivered noobs
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[15:18] <tuck> I fully agree
[15:20] <tuck> thx a lot migario
[15:20] <tuck> have a nice day ;)
[15:20] <tuck> pi3 rocks !!!
[15:20] <tuck> :)
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[15:28] <tat_> i would need some help with /dev/ttyAMA0
[15:29] <tat_> i run systemctl disable serial-getty@ttyAMA0.service to diable serial console
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[15:30] <tat_> my /proc/cmdline :
[15:30] <tat_> dma.dmachans=0x7f35 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=1366 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=768 bcm2708.boardrev=0xe bcm2708.serial=0x257231c8 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:72:31:C8 bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 bcm2708.uart_clock=3000000 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes rootwait
[15:30] <tat_> but still if i sample the serial port i get a lot of bytes send out
[15:30] <Getty> tat_: i have very specific quality standards.... i dont just let everybody disable me
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[15:32] <tat_> i am trying to run the serial port with 31250 baud, sofar unsucessfully, as soon as i chenge the uart_clock i get a full blown 3MHz byte storm from that uart
[15:33] <tat_> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt.md
[15:34] <tat_> states INIT_UART_CLOCK as the uart clock setting, does that still work ?
[15:44] <matthias-> at0m: nah. thats lame ;)
[15:44] <matthias-> So yeah, anyone got any experience with installing a TFT from aliexpress? :)
[15:45] <tat_> does bcm2708.uart_clock=3000000 has any effect at all =
[15:45] <tat_> or how can i trick the kernel to belive that the uart clock runs at 3MHz
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[15:56] <dreamscape> hey anyone know how i can install a dependancy called libstdc++6 in raspbian??
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[16:39] <at0m> matthias-: ?
[16:40] <matthias-> at0m: ...
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[16:40] <at0m> matthias-> at0m: nah. thats lame ;)
[16:40] <at0m> what is?
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[16:41] <matthias-> 15:57 < at0m> matthias-: no glibc reboot? ;]
[16:41] <matthias-> you can use lastlog :)
[16:41] <at0m> oh :)
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[17:21] <GrandPa-G> Any suggestions on how to setup wifi password at command level without going through all the edits and commands that are normally described?
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[17:49] <fredrik_wendt> hi, I'm having issues with booting with nfsroot
[17:51] <fredrik_wendt> it halts when trying to create device files in /dev
[17:52] <fredrik_wendt> I had no issues with squeeze (6.0.4), but with version 8 jessie, this happens at every boot as of recently
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[18:15] <fredrik_wendt> This is where it usually ends: [ 12.142939] systemd[1]: Starting Create Static Device Nodes in /dev...
[18:16] <fredrik_wendt> But just this once now it got one "line" further: [ 12.203212] systemd[1]: Starting Syslog Socket.
[18:17] <vagrantc> for what it's worth, i've been running an rpi2 with linux 4.5 packages from Debian experimental for over 5 days with only minimal issues now...
[18:17] <vagrantc> syslog gets flooded with: smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: kevent 2 may have been dropped
[18:18] <vagrantc> if only there were free software boot firmware, we could enable support in Debian out of the box.
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[18:19] <vagrantc> (granted, i haven't even tried to get video output)
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[19:30] <at0m> vagrantc: full native debian, or with raspbian kernel like mine?
[19:30] <at0m> was reading up on https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/issues/246 and should try going totally native.
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[19:37] <vagrantc> at0m: kernel from debian
[19:37] <vagrantc> at0m: only thing from raspbian is the boot firmware
[19:37] <at0m> sweet. that'll get me to try sooner :D
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[19:38] * vagrantc wonders if the license terms of the boot firmware would qualify for Debian's non-free section
[19:38] <at0m> not for debian iso's, probably. non-free is only enabled after install via sources.list :s
[19:39] <at0m> all teh dev efforts swaying to .deb and opensourcing the vc4 then ;)
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[19:40] <vagrantc> sure, you can't have it in the official installer images, but there are plenty of things like that.
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[19:41] <at0m> got one rpi2 on a diederik's netinstall, switched to plain deb repo's after install. running it 24/7 since september
[19:41] <at0m> testing, though
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[19:41] <jedahan> where can i follow raspbian development?
[19:41] <vagrantc> this is debian jessie/stable, running the kernel from experimental
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[19:42] <jedahan> like, i found out through the forums, that there is a new script on the raspbian images that will copy over wpa_supplicant.conf files from /boot if found
[19:42] <jedahan> where can I see said script without downloading and imaging an sd card?
[19:42] <jedahan> and like, the history of said script
[19:42] <vagrantc> (and boot firmware from raspbian's raspberry-pi-firmware-nobootloader package from some time ago...)
[19:44] * vagrantc is a bit weary of the confusing issue of no distinction between raspberry pi foundation images built mostly using raspbian and raspbian
[19:44] <vagrantc> jedahan: i don't think there's anything in raspbian that does that, but perhaps the raspberry pi foundation images ship such a script
[19:45] <jedahan> so there is a distinction between raspbian and the foundation images
[19:45] <at0m> vagrantc: indeed, it's hazy at best. would love to go native debian any time.
[19:45] <jedahan> ok, so i need to ask the foundation where they keep track of the modifications to those images
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[19:45] <vagrantc> jedahan: maybe ask in #raspberrypi
[19:46] <at0m> jedahan: or https://github.com/debian-pi/
[19:46] <diederik> vagrantc: which kernel specifically are you using?
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[19:46] <at0m> also, https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=search&q=VC4
[19:46] <vagrantc> diederik: Linux rpi2b 4.5.0-trunk-armmp-lpae #1 SMP Debian 4.5-1~exp1 (2016-03-20) armv7l GNU/Linux
[19:46] <fred1807> can I install packages from debian backports in raspbian?
[19:46] <vagrantc> diederik: shipped in debian/experimental
[19:47] <diederik> cool! I tried that kernel (quite) a while ago, but didn't get it to boot ... looks promising \o/
[19:47] <vagrantc> fred1807: the short answer is no, the long answer is sometimes
[19:47] <fred1807> I want to install ffmpeg , avaliable only in debian-bakports
[19:48] <vagrantc> diederik: been running it on two build machines for about 5 days now without too many problems
[19:48] <leon95_> Hello, I am on raspbian jessie and I have a problem with git cloning/pulling from https. I get the following error:
[19:48] <leon95_> git-remote-https: error while loading shared libraries: lybz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:48] <leon95_> I reinstalled zlib1g a few times but this does not resolve it.
[19:48] <vagrantc> fred1807: if you're on an rpi2, kind of sort of, but then you may as well run debian :)
[19:49] <diederik> it may be up to a week or 2, but then I plan to work on a 'prefer_debian' config option (or sth like that) for the netinstaller
[19:49] <vagrantc> diederik: cool
[19:49] * vagrantc still is all too comfortable with debootstrap
[19:49] <vagrantc> (or qemu-debootstrap)
[19:50] <vagrantc> diederik: i'm also booting using u-boot ... haven't tried booting a kenel directly from the firmware
[19:52] <diederik> damn, you've been playing with awesome stuff! :-D
[19:52] <at0m> diederik: instant debian repo's in netinst plx :D
[19:53] <diederik> at0m: jaja :-P
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[19:54] <at0m> :]
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[19:54] <leon95_> Has someone an Idea where the lybz.so.1 comes from? Google has no Idea...
[19:54] <diederik> vagrantc: do you happen to have written down somewhere possible issues you encountered (and solutions)?
[19:54] <diederik> leon95_: 'dpkg -S <full-path-to-file>'
[19:56] <leon95_> diederik: Problem: I dont have the file... I need it.
[19:58] <leon95_> diederik: I is needed by git:"git-remote-https: error while loading shared libraries: lybz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[19:59] <vagrantc> diederik: there's the syslog spam on the ethernet interface: https://bugs.debian.org/820622
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[19:59] <diederik> oh, this is awesome. Ben wants pi2 support too \o/
[20:07] <leon95_> I am stucked with a git pull error, th #git guys told me to ask here. I get the follwing error: 'git-remote-https: error while loading shared libraries: lybz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
[20:10] <migario> leon95: debian search does nto list anything by that name. are you 100% sure it isn't spelled libz.so.1 ?
[20:10] <migario> if not then it seems a typo to me
[20:13] <leon95_> migario: yes its lybz.so.1
[20:13] <leon95_> 100% in my git output
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[20:15] <leon95_> I tried sudo cp /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libz.so.1 /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/lybz.so.1 but then git comlains about libpasn1�so.6 is missing
[20:17] <leon95_> shoud I try to compile git? what someone of #git kind ong suggests?
[20:18] <leon95_> *ong => of
[20:21] <migario> is that unicode/codepage specific output or is something screwed up there ?
[20:23] <migario> looks to me as filesystem related issues.
[20:23] <leon95_> its the console output
[20:23] <migario> yeah and it looks garbled
[20:23] <leon95_> I reinstalled git and its dependencies multiple times
[20:24] <leon95_> ok then its time for fsck?
[20:24] <migario> well, if your filesystem is indeed deteriating, that only make it worse
[20:24] <migario> i would do so yes, if even to make sure
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[20:35] <migario> leon95_: the only other possibility would be that you are using (remote) terminal, and the communication screwing up or at least something got lost in translation.
[20:36] <migario> all afaik and imho of course :-)
[20:38] <leon95_> migario: yes im using ssh and I use it with german translation but the error is displayd in english
[20:40] <leon95_> ok... nautilus properties of the sd-card says tha it cant read a part of the patition, but fsck says all clean.
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[20:43] <javi_> hi all
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[20:43] <javi_> im looking for the last and stable image to install of whezzy in my pi 2
[20:43] <leon95_> maybe I wipe all and install the backup...
[20:44] <javi_> anyone can give me a link for it?
[20:45] <migario> leon95_: i have tbh there. i have no idea if what nautilus reports has any bearing on your current situation.
[20:45] <migario> leon95_: if you can use direct terminal. that way you should at least see meaning full messages. You're now shooting a hole in the dark.
[20:46] <leon95_> i have no hdmi monitor :(
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[20:48] <migario> leon95_: television ?
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[20:53] <GrandPa-G> leon95: don't have a serial usb connector by any chance?
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[20:58] <diederik> vagrantc: I find various relevant msgs/posts/issue regarding the kevent 2 issue ...
[20:59] <diederik> have you seen and tried those yet?
[20:59] <leon95_> ok after plugging the sd-card with fsck checked it says: lY�z.so.1
[21:00] <leon95_> so I will wipe the card with a fresh image
[21:02] <diederik> are you using mpd on that machine? Apparently various ppl got those msgs when running mpd
[21:02] <migario> leon95_: a good idea. but also make sure to check your terminal connection, in case it wasn't the sd card
[21:04] <migario> diederik: also on a local tty ?
[21:04] <diederik> migario: my msgs were targeted at vagrantc
[21:04] <leon95_> how can I check terminal connection?
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[21:06] <leon95_> all I kow is when it says 'Connection to closed by remote host.' then the connection is probably not good ;)
[21:07] <at0m> wut wut mpd
[21:09] <c-pin> is there like a irssi help chan?
[21:09] <diederik> at0m: related to the issue on the debian kernel
[21:09] <migario> diederik: ah sorry my bad
[21:09] <c-pin> someone was talking about configuring it but im not sure where to go from here
[21:09] <at0m> c-pin: #irssi
[21:09] <diederik> np, I could have been clearer ;)
[21:09] <c-pin> ayyy
[21:09] <c-pin> thx
[21:10] <migario> leon95_: well normally there isn;t any 100% fool proof check. are you connected by wire ?
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[21:13] <leon95_> yes
[21:13] <leon95_> computer>router>pi
[21:13] <leon95_> all wiered
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[21:14] <migario> leon95_: try another cable. see if the connections are well fitted (perhaps a connector is not inserted 100% as it should, some pins bend etc.)
[21:14] <leon95_> wired! not wiered D
[21:14] <migario> :-)
[21:15] <migario> well, the issue is wierd so i don't blame you for the typo :-)
[21:16] <migario> ^^ it would have been an easy check of you could connect a screen directly to your pi
[21:16] <migario> *of=if
[21:17] <leon95_> well if the connection is bad, then other thing should also be unredable...
[21:17] <migario> leon95_: well, result varied as you saw yourself. best bet still would be a corrupted filesystem, but i have no idea how a terminal connection can screw up things
[21:18] <vagrantc> diederik: haven't looked yet at the kevent 2 issues very deeply
[21:18] <diederik> ok
[21:18] <vagrantc> diederik: have any links? feel free to comment on the bug, too (just email BUGNUMBER@bugs.debian.org)
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[21:19] <diederik> already posted about the latest kernel source (3.18) ;-)
[21:20] <leon95_> also ssh is encrypted, so if anything is not like its sended, then it should close the connection.
[21:20] <diederik> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/309 and https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/154
[21:21] <diederik> I just put 'kevent 2 may have been dropped' into duckduckgo and then I found things which sounded relevant
[21:21] <diederik> When I have the time, I'll start experimenting and report findings to that debian bug
[21:22] <migario> leon95_: in theory, yes. as said, my best bet would be a corrupted filesystem. it just occured to me that the connection can be the cause of things in theory as well. Hence me mentioning it.
[21:24] <diederik> vagrantc: http://stevenhickson.blogspot.nl/2012/10/fixing-raspberry-pi-crashes.html seems to mention various 'solutions' I found (seem more like workarounds tbh)
[21:25] <leon95_> migario: thank you very much for your time, image is downloading, will burn it tomorow...
[21:26] <diederik> you may also try putting more recent firmware files, the raspbian.org package is rather dated (last time I checked)
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[21:27] <diederik> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Troubleshooting
[21:31] <migario> leon95_: no problem. keep in mind that i said filesystem, but it could just as well be a cache or swap somewhere (i have no idea what fsck checks).
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[21:50] <vagrantc> diederik: last time i tried updating the firmware, i couldn't even boot older kernels
[21:50] <diederik> That doesn't sound like an improvement :-P
[21:52] <vagrantc> diederik: or at least, i couldn't find a kernel that i could boot
[21:53] * vagrantc wonders if u-boot is (unintentionally) tied to a particular range of firmwares
[21:53] <diederik> it is indeed an extra factor that could complicate things
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[22:31] <MM_> Hello, does anyone have experience setting up a "Magic Mirror"?
[22:32] <matthias-> you mean one that tells time, weather and all ?
[22:32] <MM_> yes thats correct
[22:32] <MM_> im having an apache problem and had a few questions
[22:32] <MM_> where is the main apache conf file in Raspbian?
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[22:33] <diederik> somewhere in /etc/apache2/
[22:34] <MM_> ty, looks to be /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[22:34] <MM_> I am able to load default apache page with http://localhost
[22:34] <MM_> but when I use http://localhost/MagicMirror/ I get error
[22:35] <MM_> https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/3oktfu/magic_mirror_how_to/
[22:36] <MM_> will switching serverroot to /var/www/html in apache2.conf break anything?
[22:36] <c-pin> ok got irssi to work kind of well :
[22:36] <c-pin> :D*
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