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[0:30] <pnwise> Does anyone knows where the downloaded files from rpi-update are stored?
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[1:07] <TopNerds> @Domi i have the same problem
[1:07] <TopNerds> i think is a general problem
[1:08] <TopNerds> random freeze and random black screen with blinking cursor
[1:08] <TopNerds> with and also with all the updates
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[5:56] <TankGirl> Hi! How would I set my Pi3 to run at 1.2ghz (or a more subtle 1ghz)?
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[6:00] <Lartza> TankGirl, raspi-config?
[6:00] <Lartza> I don't have a Pi3 so I don't know if it has something different than Pi2
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[6:01] <stiv> what does pi 3 normally run at?
[6:01] <TankGirl> 1.2ghz, I found it, turns out it's the same way you do it on the old pi's
[6:01] <Lartza> Actually runs at 1.2
[6:02] <Lartza> Yeah it's been the same since the first Pi but pi2 just had different values :P
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[6:03] <TankGirl> arm_freq=700 is the usual for old pi
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[6:03] <TankGirl> seting clock to 1200mhz BRB
[6:04] <Lartza> Shouldnt it already be that
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[6:04] <TankGirl> I left it 700mhz
[6:04] <Lartza> From what
[6:04] <Lartza> You've been running the same sd since Pi1?
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[6:04] <TankGirl> ;)
[6:05] <Lartza> ...
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[6:05] <TankGirl> If It' ain't broke
[6:05] <TankGirl> haha
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[6:05] <Lartza> Isn't it still armv6?
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[6:05] <TankGirl> if you swap out the boot partition you'll stuff will still be there
[6:05] <Lartza> Sure, it will still be armv6
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[6:11] <TankGirl> if the pi 3 has 1024MB Ram (1GB) could I get away with a 512mb/512mb split for the video :D
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[6:14] <Lartza> TankGirl, Yes but why...
[6:14] <Lartza> You'll get better performance giving the system more
[6:15] <TankGirl> yeah going half made youtube take a p00p
[6:15] <TankGirl> I put it at 32
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[6:16] <TankGirl> Wow, Zoooom, yeah that boot was lightning
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[6:18] <TankGirl> hmm...64, youtube locked up, it seemed to run sweet with 64
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[6:18] <TankGirl> Did you know if you plug in a wire to a certain GPIO you can create a Mono FM signal?
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[6:22] <TankGirl> ughhhh I need a power pack besides my iphone charger, damn rainbow square
[6:22] <TankGirl> (shakes fist at wallet)
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[6:29] <TankGirl> does the pi3 have a reset button switch like the pi2?
[6:31] <Lartza> Pi2 has a reset button?
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[6:33] <TankGirl> https://blog.adafruit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/RasPiBPlusResetHeader.jpg
[6:33] <TankGirl> oh, they moved it across towards the USB port
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[6:33] <TankGirl> cool!
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[6:34] <Lartza> oh yeah that
[6:35] <TankGirl> yay 720p youtube with a mediocre framerate :D
[6:35] <Lartza> :P
[6:35] <Lartza> Well that won't be fixed by anything you try to do
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[6:35] <Lartza> Except I guess using a browser built for the Pi that iirc doesn't exist currently
[6:36] <TankGirl> 480p runs ok which is expected, too bad I don't have enough coffee to write some code tonight :D
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[6:37] <TankGirl> the CPU only hits 44% decoding it, which leads me to think that the browser isn't accelerating jack #%^$
[6:39] <TankGirl> playing the same video off of a USB stick runs it at 1080p no problem, sooooo it's the browser :^)
[6:40] <TankGirl> soo glad I got those cute heatsinks
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[6:40] <TankGirl> YES they're cute ;)
[6:41] <TankGirl> would there be any merit to writing a game specifically bootable on a raspberry pi? I always imagined it to run like an N64 or something
[6:42] <TankGirl> put in a game card, sit down with your controller :D
[6:43] <Lartza> TankGirl, Browser isn't using HW acceleration
[6:43] <Lartza> And won't without patches
[6:43] <TankGirl> the video card can do about 24GFlops, which puts it about at a suped up Classic Xbox
[6:44] <Lartza> That's why you have omxplayer and only omxplayer
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[6:44] <TankGirl> sudo apt-get update
[6:45] <TankGirl> Whoops sorry I have three keyboards on my desk
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[9:25] <TankGirl> ugh...forgetting to expand the file system makes my pi only boot once
[9:25] <TankGirl> but now It just boots to the colorful square and quits
[9:28] <TankGirl> oh, the experimental 3D Driver killed it
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[9:29] <TankGirl> Pi; Half the fun is getting it to turn on :^)
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[10:22] <TankGirl> I installed Mixxx on my Pi3 and after some fiddling it's relatively stable and runs with the Timecode CD's :D
[10:23] <^Richard> interesting that it's got the horsepower for it
[10:26] <TankGirl> turns out if you use the simple waveform, it takes a very big chunk of CPU use away, leaving it fast enough for 23ms between the Time In and Sound Out (with an external soundcard)
[10:27] <TankGirl> I'd imagine if I built a specific Image to boot "Just Mixxx" it would run amazingly
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[10:29] <TankGirl> the timecode's jump within 0.2 pitch once in a while, I think its my Pi not getting enough juice because that corner rainbow square comes up when the sound &%#$ up
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[10:30] <^Richard> yeah, must be
[10:30] <^Richard> new psu time?
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[10:33] <TankGirl> I have a nice beefy 2amp power pack that came with my Android Stick thingy, bbut it's 4:30am and I don't want to dig in the "Bin of Assorted Doom"
[10:34] <TankGirl> http://i.imgur.com/ePZsGZX.jpg Here's the setup
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[10:35] <TankGirl> CDJ-100S into Behringer UCA222 Into Pi 3 at 1250mhz 128mb video on a Blackberry USB cable plugged into an iPhone Cube Charger :^)
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[10:36] <TankGirl> it would be soooo nice to slap a little GPIO LCD and spinner knobs on, with that 2amp PSU I'd be able to plug in 2x500GB HDD (Salivates)
[10:37] <^Richard> aye you'd expect 2A should be more than enough
[10:38] <TankGirl> "wut that little box hooked up to your turntables?" "a Pi set up as a DVS"
[10:39] <^Richard> and why not!
[10:39] <TankGirl> sure would beat carrying around the laptop, a little box with hard drives and knobs...haha
[10:40] <TankGirl> come to think of it, I could probably set up the GPIO to control damn near everything, could build a desk box turntable machine
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[10:42] <^Richard> if it's all in digital realm should be feasible
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[10:44] <TankGirl> "Yeah, you can DJ on it and if you plug in ~This~ SD Card it'll play Doom"
[10:44] <TankGirl> hahaha
[10:44] <^Richard> don't forget Quake. best DJ interface ever
[10:44] <TankGirl> Aww yeah
[10:44] <TankGirl> haha
[10:46] <brianx> 2a is borderline for spinning up the drives while the pi is on.
[10:47] <^Richard> mm, inrush current could be a problem.
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[10:48] <TankGirl> I've had luck using SSD's in portable HDD Cases, on the account of lacking of moving parts :D
[10:49] <^Richard> aye that should be grand.. it's the spinning platters that are a pain!
[10:49] <brianx> yeah, SSD is much better because there is no motor start.
[10:50] <TankGirl> Lol I'mma try just typing in "apt-get install mixxx" into Minibian and see what it complains about and install everything, I doubt I'll need a GUI LOL"
[10:51] <^Richard> minibian much different from raspbian?
[10:51] <TankGirl> it's a torn down minimal image
[10:51] <brianx> iirc, the official supply is now 2.4A because the 3 is a hungry beast.
[10:52] <TankGirl> so just sitting at raspberry icon with the console
[10:52] <TankGirl> "chicks dig guys with consoles"
[10:52] <^Richard> ohh really. only 1.8A supply here so will have to watch out for that one
[10:53] <^Richard> still don't understand why the hell they thought a coloured square in the corner was a good low power indicator. ¬_¬
[10:53] <TankGirl> there's a way to turn it off
[10:53] <brianx> i have run the 3 with some success down to 700mA but it was not stable.
[10:55] <TankGirl> I have it running on a dollar store phone power bank headless for about an hour and a half...headed probably about 45 minutes but that blinky square :/
[10:55] <M0SPN> I always see the blinky square. I wondered what that was about.
[10:55] <M0SPN> ~3A 5V PSU here.
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[10:56] <brianx> my best success so far has been a 24VA transformer and a 3A dc-dc with some large filter caps added. but the only things attached are the hdmi cable and a wireless keyboard/mouse
[10:56] <TankGirl> avoid_warnings=1 removes the warning overlay. avoid_warnings=2 additionally allows turbo when low-voltage is present.
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[10:57] <TankGirl> (plugs in "not favorite" SD Card to test)
[10:58] <^Richard> yeah, i just don't see how 'blinky square' is ever a good error message lol
[10:58] <^Richard> at least bloody tell people
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[10:59] <TankGirl> strange, blinky square doesn't show up in the minimal distro I found...
[11:00] <brianx> i'm sure that a blinky square error message is due to bootstraping through the GPU rather than booting off the arm.
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[11:00] <TankGirl> too bad they didn't just chuck a nice fat power cap on the board :^)
[11:00] <TankGirl> run it off a pair of watch batteries :P
[11:01] <^Richard> aye, i did wonder that - only reason i could think for doing something like that.
[11:01] <TankGirl> apt-get install swoo.pkg
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> low voltage blinky square logs in syslog too.
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[11:09] <TankGirl> you know you're a tinkerer when half of the ethernet cables under your desk go everywhere but a router;)
[11:10] <lifeofhope> kindly tell me how to register in python IRC chat. I have already registered, got email verification but not able to write
[11:10] <lifeofhope> unregistered
[11:10] <TankGirl> and you know you spend too much time doing the tinkering when you have a drawer labeled "Things with GPIO"
[11:11] <gordonDrogon> you have a drawer?
[11:11] * gordonDrogon looks about the room ...
[11:11] <TankGirl> hehehe
[11:12] <lifeofhope> I got error ***buffer overflow detected ***:sudo terminated
[11:12] <TankGirl> "Cannot connect to X server"
[11:13] <lifeofhope> using python. Now can anyone tell me regarding python
[11:13] <TankGirl> should I just keep installing the X server packages one by one until my program is like "Ok I got Video now"
[11:13] <TankGirl> haha
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[11:15] <TankGirl> :O I DID IT
[11:16] <TankGirl> I installed xserver-xorg, xinit, typed startx, it gave me a weird looking console, so I typed mixxx, now I got a "open music directory"
[11:16] <TankGirl> haaha
[11:16] <gordonDrogon> lifeofhope, I know nothing of Python. BASIC punk rock programmer here.
[11:16] <TankGirl> :O :O :O
[11:16] <TankGirl> DUDE YOU Gotta see this
[11:18] <TankGirl> http://i.imgur.com/ciziSVF.jpg
[11:18] <TankGirl> now to figure out how to Get memory sticks working :P
[11:19] <gordonDrogon> no idea what that is, but hey, I don't listen to music much.
[11:19] <TankGirl> I'm running a program off a barebones Raspbian
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[11:22] <TankGirl> since USB Stick's dont work I'mma just slap some tunes on the Linux partition and then load from there, getting the program going is top notch
[11:23] <gordonDrogon> why don't usb sticks work?
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> you might just need to manually mount them if not gui/helper/udev thingy is running.
[11:24] <TankGirl> I don't think I put in the stuff in this minimal distro to even look at them
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> plug one in, type: dmesg | tail - find out the device, mount it.
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> usually /dev/sda1 on a Pi.
[11:25] <stratum> During boot systemd says that it is loading rfkill switch status (prolly from /var/lib/systemd/rfkill)
[11:25] <gordonDrogon> add entry into /etc/fstab to let you manually mount it as a user and off you do.
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[11:26] <stratum> Now, it would seem that rfkill status is only saved for the WNIC (in /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/platform-3f300000.mmc:phy0)
[11:26] * ShorTie Wonders, isn't /dev/sda1 a partition with the device being /dev/sda
[11:26] <stratum> How can I make sure rfkill status for bluetooth is also saved?
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> ShorTie, most devices I've used have a single partition rather than use the whole device.
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[11:30] <TankGirl> ./woo.pi
[11:31] <TankGirl> Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain, what the heck is this?
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[11:31] <plugwash> iirc it's wifi related
[11:32] <plugwash> wifi chipsets can be configured for what "regulatory domain" they will be operating in and hence what channels are legal
[11:32] <TankGirl> true, it's the frequency blacklist for countries, but I'm not using a wifi right meow?
[11:32] <TankGirl> it's probably cfg80111.ko going nuts
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[11:34] <TankGirl> root
[11:34] <TankGirl> raspberry
[11:34] <TankGirl> I have to move this keyboard somewhere else
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[11:35] <TankGirl> also, I'm running root because this isn't networked and I also hate typing sudo :P
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[11:35] <microbit> hi
[11:35] <TankGirl> hi
[11:37] <TankGirl> Wow! Loading Just X and running Mixxx Gave it a HUGGGE speed boost
[11:38] <microbit> im trying to figure out how to run dosbox via cmd ... without running startx
[11:38] <TankGirl> Hmmmmm
[11:39] <microbit> i mean , its technically running , i hear a sound ... just no graphics
[11:41] <microbit> oh , and its on a small 320x240 screen
[11:42] <microbit> i remember , i could get dosbox run while im on the desktop-ui ... on this little screen
[11:42] <TankGirl> you might want to set your config.txt to hdmi_mode=2 and a resolution (probably 480p or something)
[11:42] <microbit> uhm
[11:42] <microbit> why hdmi ? when im running a small screen that is attachd on the pins ?
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[11:43] <TankGirl> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:43] <TankGirl> I can't help you there, don't know enough about the GPIO
[11:43] <TankGirl> I've gotten to LED's and Data
[11:43] <microbit> k , np
[11:46] <TankGirl> I've used composite LCD's, easier to fiddle with, I had a gameboy screen going (but it resulted in fire :P)
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[11:54] <TankGirl> Without a GUI the sound buffer can go to 5ms
[11:56] <TankGirl> nope
[11:56] <TankGirl> 11ms the bare minimum
[11:56] <TankGirl> for 2 decks
[11:56] <TankGirl> oh it is 5 I just crashed the damn thing
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[12:24] <microbit> TankGirl : funny though ... when im starting the game via cmd , from the little screen ..(gpio) ... the game-graphics show up on hdmi ...
[12:25] <microbit> so i kinda need to tell the raspi to play the graphics on the little screen
[12:25] <microbit> i can allready taste the solution ... lol ... it must be very easy
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[12:26] <hgutmann> Hello.
[12:26] <microbit> hi hgutman
[12:26] <microbit> n
[12:26] <hgutmann> I'm trying to boot raspian an a new raspberry3, but I always end up with the rainbow-screen. The same card runs in pi1.
[12:27] <hgutmann> Does anyone of you have a suggestion how to solve that problem? I've already added the boot_delay=1 to the config.txt, but it didn't help.
[12:27] <hgutmann> Tried two different sdcards, and two different raspberries.
[12:27] <microbit> you probably need more juice ?
[12:27] <hgutmann> microbit, I already tried 3 different power supplies, ranging from 1.5 A to 2 A
[12:28] <microbit> but he needs atleast 2.5 ... ive heard
[12:28] <microbit> maybe im wrong though
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[12:29] <diederik> the recommended is 2.5, but it's not the minimum
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[12:30] <hgutmann> http://hackaday.com/2016/03/01/pi-3-benchmarks-the-marketing-hype-is-true/
[12:30] <hgutmann> ^ They state that the max. power consumption @ boot is approx. 720mA
[12:31] <hgutmann> I just want to boot raspbian.
[12:32] <microbit> yeah
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[12:33] <hgutmann> Hmm.. looks like it's a formatting issue!?
[12:33] <hgutmann> does dd not work well?
[12:33] <microbit> hgutmann : and you just have the sdcard in ... and the power supply connected ?
[12:33] <microbit> + screen ?
[12:34] <hgutmann> Using retropi image formatted from a windows machine boots.
[12:34] <hgutmann> dd with 2 different rasbian images (wheezy, jessie) didn't work.
[12:34] <microbit> nvm
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[12:38] <hgutmann> It looks like raspbian wheezy & pimusicbox don't work. Retropi & raspbian jessy from 16/03 looks ok.
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[13:17] <thurstylark> hgutmann: I haven't messed with the pi3 yet, but I've had an issue where an image that I created wouldn't work until I wiped the sd card with zeros. Idk if it would work for you or not, but it may be worth a try
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[13:24] <DamBedEi> Hi
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[13:25] <DamBedEi> I recently got a RPi3 and I am trying to use the Bluetooth module. I am using bluetootctl and already got it to work. But to pair/connect to (for example) my phone I have to enter a passkey or have to authorize the service by typing yes.
[13:26] <Lartza> You should need to only do that when pairing
[13:26] <DamBedEi> What I want to do is, I want to be able to connect to the RPi3 via Bluetooth with a "trust everything" option
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[13:28] <DamBedEi> Lartza: hi, I am searching for an option so I never have to confirm a connection/pairing
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[13:28] <Lartza> So it requests you the PIN code every time now?
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[13:29] <DamBedEi> Lartza: I tried several agent options. Pairing works without confirmation but then I get a "authorize service (yes/no)"
[13:29] <Lartza> You don't get a PIN code?
[13:30] <DamBedEi> Lartza: Other agent options require to either enter a pin or yes/no
[13:30] <DamBedEi> No
[13:30] <Lartza> "trust MAC Address" ?
[13:30] <Lartza> After pairing it shouldn't require a repair
[13:30] <DamBedEi> okay, but then I have to do this everytime a new device wants to connect.
[13:30] <Lartza> Well, new device of course
[13:30] <Lartza> How many devices do you have??
[13:30] <DamBedEi> Can I trust all MAC addresses?
[13:31] <Lartza> Do you want to trust all MAC addresses?
[13:31] <DamBedEi> Yes
[13:31] <Lartza> No you don't
[13:31] <Lartza> Do you really have too many devices to trust?
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[13:32] <DamBedEi> I want to use it as a audio player (receive audio via bluetooth and then output to the jack). So every friend of mine can use it at my home
[13:32] <Lartza> I doubt you can trust all since it has grave security implications
[13:32] <DamBedEi> I don't want to always have to explicitly trust
[13:33] <DamBedEi> Lartza: Then is there a possibilty to set a PIN / password on the RPi
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[13:33] <DamBedEi> So only people with the pin/pwd can connect?
[13:33] <DamBedEi> Lartza: I just do not want to have to access the RPi everytime
[13:36] <Lartza> It's the phones that want the PIN I think
[13:36] <DamBedEi> the other way round is not possible? :(
[13:38] <Lartza> I haven't found a way yet to move either the yes or pin to the phone
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[13:39] <Lartza> bluez4 does seem to allow you to set the PIN
[13:40] <Lartza> But there's no simple-agent in bluez5 I don't think
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[13:41] <DamBedEi> ok .. so, maybe I compile bluez4 from sources then
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[13:42] <Lartza> I'm not sure how that works but yeah maybe
[13:43] <Lartza> It's deprecated so it might not work with the current kernel etc
[13:43] <Lartza> Four years is a long time for stuff to change :P
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[13:45] <Lartza> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/setting-up-bluez-with-a-passkey-pin-to-be-used-as-headset-for-iphone-816003/
[13:45] <Lartza> In the end of that there's the part where someone has edited simple-agent to request the pin
[13:46] <Lex_> Hey, i'm having trobble installing mupen64plus from apt, i've reinstalled and tried testing. Any of you guys know what's going on?
[13:46] <Lex_> "mupen64plus-ui-console but it is not installable or mupen64plus-ui but it is not installable"
[13:47] <Lex_> i think the package isn't setup correctly or something :\
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[13:48] <Lartza> Lex_, What does mupen65plus-ui-console complain?
[13:48] <Lartza> When you try to install
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[13:49] <Lex_> "Package mupen64plus-ui-console is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"
[13:49] <Lex_> "Package 'mupen64plus-ui-console' has no installation candidate"
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[13:49] <Lex_> i've checked the FTP and it's there :\
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[13:51] <Lartza> That doesn't mean it's there though :P
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[13:51] <Lex_> i've tried compiling from git, but that's not easy...
[13:52] <Lartza> Also it's not there
[13:52] <Lartza> There is no deb in the repos
[13:52] <Lex_> yea? why have they done that
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[13:53] <Lartza> Done what?
[13:53] <Lartza> Maybe it doesn't compile on the rpi that well
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[13:53] <Lartza> But mupen64plus does
[13:53] <Lartza> I have no idea, mupen64plus-ui-console is not there even on FTP
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[13:54] <Lex_> made a incomplete package? i have a rpi3
[13:54] <Lex_> ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/raspbian/raspbian/pool/main/m/
[13:54] <Lex_> sorry ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/raspbian/raspbian/pool/main/m/mupen64plus-ui-console/
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[13:55] <Lartza> Lex_, Yeah there is no deb there
[13:55] <Lartza> So it's not in the repo
[13:55] <Lartza> Like I said
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[13:55] <Lartza> Does mupen64plus even work on the pi?
[13:55] <Lex_> yea i get that, but why mupen64 there and have a imcomplete package? do i have to do something?
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[13:55] <Lex_> yes
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[13:57] <Lartza> There seems to be this https://github.com/ricrpi/mupen64plus
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[13:57] <Lartza> But it needs some changes and installing it system wide wouldn't be that wise...
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[13:58] <Gin> Are you trying to pull the sources?
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[13:59] <Lartza> He isn't
[13:59] <Lartza> mupen64plus-ui-console is not in the repos
[14:00] <Lex_> i tried that one, it had problems and it's 2 years old...
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[14:01] <Gin> get the sources from git and compile them then?
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[14:01] <Lartza> ^
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[14:01] <Lex_> i tried that too, i'm not a expert so dependencies and compiling options were hard :\
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[14:02] <Gin> usually theres a read me telling what dependencies you need to install
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[14:03] <Lartza> libsdl2-dev libpng-dev libfreetype6-dev zlib1g-dev for the core...
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[14:04] <Lartza> make all USE_GLES=1 NEON=1 VC=1
[14:04] <Lartza> I don't know how mupen64plus works though, that's just the core but how it'll find the other parts without installing system-wide...
[14:05] <Lex_> same folder no?
[14:05] <Lartza> idk
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[14:06] <Lex_> how it works on windows
[14:06] <Lartza> The repos are separate
[14:06] <Lartza> I can try it for you though
[14:06] <Lartza> Yeah but for windows it's packaged
[14:06] <Lartza> I'll give it a spin
[14:06] <Lex_> well... i'll give it one last shot cloning and compiling git :|
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[14:08] <Lartza> Core should work with that if not we'll sort it from the compile errors :P
[14:08] <Lartza> Oh the core is really just a core
[14:09] <Lex_> i don't know much but 'NO_ASM=1 == build without assembly (no dynamic recompiler or MMX/SSE code)' and rpi doesn't work sse so i should make it 0?
[14:09] <Lartza> No, just use what I gave you
[14:09] <Lex_> ok thanks
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[14:09] <Lartza> If it doesn't work we'll re-evaluate :P
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[14:09] <Lartza> You want ui-console or ui-python?
[14:10] <Lex_> ui-console
[14:10] <Lex_> i can deal with no ui
[14:10] <Lartza> wait there's a...
[14:11] <Lex_> oh i also don't have xorg... i don't know if i need that or something too display the program?
[14:11] <Lartza> Did you git clone it?
[14:11] <Lartza> mupen that is
[14:11] <Lex_> yes
[14:11] <Lartza> Hmm
[14:11] <Lex_> i started with core
[14:11] <Lartza> Well I guess we can work with that too, they also have a source bundle it seems
[14:12] <Lex_> wait were?
[14:12] <Lartza> https://github.com/mupen64plus/mupen64plus-core/releases/download/2.5/mupen64plus-bundle-src-2.5.tar.gz
[14:13] <Lex_> what??? how did you find that?
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[14:13] <Lartza> :P
[14:13] <Lartza> I am not sure if that works for the Pi though without changes
[14:14] <Lex_> oi could it be possible to compile this with the same compile options but like on a stronger system and then give it too the pi, or does it need to be compiled on a ARM
[14:14] <Lartza> You would need to cross-compile
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[14:15] <Lartza> That's not really feasible from Windows but works on Linux or OS X
[14:18] <Lartza> That bundle looks too complicated for it's own good
[14:19] <Lex_> i got lost in trying to figure out how to unzip it.... i hate tar
[14:19] <Lartza> Hate tar why
[14:20] <Lex_> because i have to remeber -xvzf
[14:21] <Lartza> I would just compile the parts separately, it seems to work
[14:21] <Lartza> I have the ui now finding the core but complaining of no rom
[14:21] <Lex_> oh, so you got it too work! that's reasuring
[14:21] <Lex_> there is a testrom i belive
[14:21] <Lartza> Well I am not on the Pi but :P
[14:22] <Lex_> lol, that's not fair
[14:22] <Lartza> At least it should work if we get it to compile on the Pi
[14:22] <Lartza> Well my Pi is not on Raspbian and this is faster, same fundamentals ;)
[14:22] <Lartza> It shouldn't take too long to compile even on the pi for now, core and ui-console were pretty light
[14:23] <Lex_> well i need too compile them all
[14:23] <Lex_> so you're saying that the bundle wont work?
[14:23] <Lartza> I am saying the huge script it has won't probably work
[14:24] <Lex_> oh ok, it's been going for a few min now and it 'looks' fine
[14:24] <Lartza> The bundle build?
[14:24] <Lex_> yes
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[14:24] <Lartza> Yeah it's just I am not sure what I can do to fix it if it fails :P
[14:24] <Lartza> vs building them separately
[14:25] <Lartza> But maybe we can reuse the parts it succeeds to compile and only compile what fails if it fails
[14:25] <Lex_> i am getting a few "warning: ‘ResampleQuality’ defined but not used [-Wunused-variable] static int ResampleQuality = 3;" in there but i've never compiled befor so i have no idea if that's normal
[14:26] <Lartza> warnings don't matter
[14:28] <Lartza> Oh it won't build video plugins that work
[14:28] <Lartza> That bundle
[14:28] <Lartza> But we can maybe fix that after it compiles everything else
[14:31] <Lex_> ok, i did have a fatal error at Glide64 "xmmintrin.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated." but ill give individual ones a go
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[14:31] <Lartza> Yeah that's a video plugin, wouldn't work even if it compiled
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[14:36] <Lex_> would you know what SDL is and what i would need for it? "SDL video subsystem init failed: No available video device"
[14:37] <Lartza> You compiled already?
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[14:38] <Lex_> well since it compiled most of it, incuding a GFX plugin 'rice' i'm trying that
[14:38] <Lartza> You need either https://github.com/ricrpi/mupen64plus-video-gles2n64
[14:38] <Lartza> or https://github.com/ricrpi/mupen64plus-video-gles2rice
[14:38] <Lartza> audio and such should work
[14:39] <Lex_> i've got rice tho
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[15:38] <dwaller> the documentation is pretty light as to how i would make it use lvm
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[16:18] <thurstylark> I'm trying to cross-compile for armhf on an amd64 jessie box, and need libglib2.0-dev:armhf, but apt wants to remove the amd64 versions of the packages. Is there a way for them to coexist? I would like to compile the same thing for amd64 and armhf.
[16:19] <plugwash> If the packages are not marked as being able to coexist they probablly can't
[16:20] <plugwash> your best bet is probablly to do your crossbuilding in a chroot
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[16:20] <thurstylark> lovely. guess I'll get started reading up on chroot :P
[16:20] <thurstylark> thanks
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[16:50] <KlausedSource> hey I am using raspbian jessie minimal (i wanted to get rid of the bloat). now when I try to start gui programs from the commandline they all fail and report the error "Can't open display: :0".
[16:50] <KlausedSource> However when I put the exact same command in .xinit and then invoke startx it works
[16:50] <KlausedSource> why?
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[16:51] <vagrantc> KlausedSource: because individual commands don't start an X server.
[16:51] <vagrantc> KlausedSource: startx starts the xserver, and then runs whatever commands are in ~/.xinit and ~/.xsession and such.
[16:52] <vagrantc> er, individual programs do not typically start an X server, unless it is designed to do so.
[16:52] <KlausedSource> vagrantc, so is there a way to start the X server in background (without an actual session)?
[16:52] <vagrantc> KlausedSource: technically yes, but i don't see how it would be useful.
[16:53] <vagrantc> KlausedSource: what's your goal?
[16:53] <KlausedSource> well I want to start chromium-browser in kiosk mode from ssh without
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[16:53] <KlausedSource> without display manager or anything
[16:53] <vagrantc> you could try nodm
[16:53] <KlausedSource> I actually got a setup with rasbian jessie (no minimal) and it works. But on the same setup with rasbian jessie minimal it doesnt
[16:54] <KlausedSource> I just don't understand why
[16:54] <vagrantc> probably missing some packages required to do what you're trying to do
[16:55] <vagrantc> KlausedSource: basically, nodm is designed to do the sort of thing you're trying to do.
[16:55] <vagrantc> alternately, configuring lightdm, gdm, kdm for autologin
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[16:56] <KlausedSource> mhh because of reasons I'm not able do fundamentally change the setup. Anyways I want to get the actual setting working on jessie minimal
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[16:56] <KlausedSource> wait let me paste you the relevant snippets
[16:56] <KlausedSource> this is the crontab of user pi: "@reboot /usr/bin/xinit -- -s 0 -dpms 2>&1 | logger -t xinit"
[16:57] <KlausedSource> this is .xinit of pi: https://bpaste.net/show/8c685a7963ed
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[16:59] <vagrantc> KlausedSource: so you want chromium-browser running on the remote machine, displaying to the client?
[17:00] <KlausedSource> this is the command the pi gets from the remote server: "chromium-browser --window-position=0,0 --window-size=$SCREENSIZE --kiosk --audio-buffer-size=2048 --incognito http://someurl.foo"
[17:00] <KlausedSource> no the client gets a command from the remote machine
[17:01] <KlausedSource> he connects with ssh -T and on the remote server is a script executed when this happens
[17:01] <KlausedSource> the return of said script is the last thing I pasted above
[17:01] <KlausedSource> the chromium one
[17:02] <vagrantc> KlausedSource: instead of your cron job, use nodm.
[17:03] <vagrantc> KlausedSource: should work fine.
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[17:04] <vagrantc> KlausedSource: alternately, download the script instead of piping it to bash
[17:05] <KlausedSource> I just learned another thing...when I type the cronjob in console it works too
[17:05] <vagrantc> the cron job is probably running at the wrong time
[17:06] <vagrantc> or, if you really want to write your own pseudo-display-manager-but-not-really-a-display-manager, use a .service file instead of a cron job.
[17:07] <vagrantc> then you can set up dependencies so things you need (e.g. network) are available
[17:07] <KlausedSource> vagrantc, could it be that there is no cron daemon running at all? ;) maybe that would explain things
[17:08] <KlausedSource> vagrantc, yeah I may do this. Guess It is more future proof too. Gotta convince my old fashioned coworkers first thought :S
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[17:09] <vagrantc> even if cron was running @reboot is almost certain to be the wrong time to run it
[17:10] <vagrantc> the only reason it might work is because of your "while true" loop ...
[17:10] <vagrantc> which is a bit ... awkward. :)
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[17:16] <KlausedSource> vagrantc, yeah I this part was not of my imagination. I'm actually trying to improve this thing. That's why I'm porting it to raspbian jessie minimal from ordinary jessie
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[19:05] <diederik> dwaller: if you'd like to use lvm with the netinstaller, you'd have to build it in yourself
[19:07] <dwaller> diederik: yeah, thats what i'm reading. i may not need it, i'm just used to seeing lvm when i build
[19:07] <dwaller> diederik: thanks for responding, btw
[19:08] <dwaller> i'm trying to wrap my head around how the installer exactly works, and how i can customize it for my needs
[19:08] <diederik> what are you trying to accomplish and how does lvm fit in there?
[19:08] <dwaller> i'd like to make the root partition small (which i've done in the installer-config.txt), and then create a third "data" partition
[19:08] <dwaller> i don't think i need lvm anymore
[19:09] <dwaller> since the card is static, and we won't ever be adding more disk to these, lvm is unnecessary
[19:10] <plugwash> root on lvm can be a nice setup because it means you can easilly add more space to the root filesystem without downtime
[19:11] <diederik> lvm is indeed not needed in that case (but it does add flexibility as plugwash pointed out)
[19:12] <diederik> but it would require (far) more substantial customizations to get it in
[19:13] <diederik> where do you plan to mount your data partition?
[19:13] <TankGirl> Why did they switch the push-push on the Pi2 to a push-pull SD card on the Pi 3? Mechanically superior? or less cost?
[19:14] <diederik> apparently several ppl accidently ejected their sd card when there was no intention
[19:16] <Mafoo> i went straight from a Model B (orginal) to a Pi 3 so didn't really notice
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[19:18] <dwaller> diederik: i figured somewhere in /opt, or even creating a new location like /data
[19:19] <diederik> then you can even do it in post-install.txt
[19:19] <dwaller> oh, excellent
[19:19] <dwaller> is there documentation on how to use that file, or is it parsed as a shell script?
[19:20] <diederik> parsed as a shell script (with busybox sh as interpreter)
[19:20] <dwaller> ok, is that much different than bash?
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[19:20] <diederik> bash is (way) more powerful
[19:21] <diederik> usually when you avoid bash-isms you should be fine
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[19:22] <dwaller> so i just want to use simple commands
[19:22] <diederik> I find http://www.shellcheck.net/ as useful tool
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[19:23] <diederik> s/as/a/
[19:24] <dwaller> so to complete my task, i'll need to create a 3rd partition using the remainder of the disk. assuming i should use fdisk for that, then mkfs, and mount, and create a corresponding fstab entry?
[19:24] <diederik> yes
[19:24] <dwaller> easy enough
[19:25] <diederik> if you're using linux/debian on your normal pc, you can write the script there and use #!/bin/sh as the first line of the script and if it works, it likely works in the post-install.txt too
[19:25] <vagrantc> the devscript package also has a checkbashisms script
[19:25] <vagrantc> devscripts
[19:26] <dwaller> i need to do whole disk encryption as well, but i'm guessing that would be a significant effort to get working in the unattended install
[19:26] <dwaller> hmm
[19:26] <dwaller> or maybe not, if i use the post-install
[19:27] <dwaller> post-install still treats the fresh OS as a chroot, right?
[19:27] <diederik> whole disk encryption needs to be set up in the beginning, so you'd have to modify the installer for that
[19:27] <diederik> (afaik)
[19:27] <diederik> right
[19:28] <dwaller> i'm looking at the github page. there are .sh scripts, then in the releases, there is something completely different
[19:28] <dwaller> are the .sh scripts used to create the release, so if i wanted to deviate from the packaged release, i would use the shell scripts to create my own image?
[19:28] <dwaller> sorry if i'm asking a bunch of dumb questions
[19:29] <diederik> yes
[19:29] <dwaller> ah, i see
[19:29] <diederik> build.sh creates the zip 'installer' and buildroot.sh creates the (compressed) .img files
[19:29] <dwaller> i'm reading BUILD.md right now
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[19:35] <TankGirl> apperantly I can run a single program from xserver
[19:35] <TankGirl> which frees up a lot of the CPU time
[19:36] <TankGirl> for what I'm running (Mixxx)
[19:36] <dwaller> diederik: will this fail on a pi3? i'm looking at the logic in the scripts, and it is limited to pi1/pi2
[19:36] <TankGirl> Besides fiddling with the base system a small amount, I've been rocking my Pi3 the same as my 2B+
[19:36] <diederik> it currently does not work on a pi3, but we're working on it (but it may take a while)
[19:37] <TankGirl> diederik I've got a weekend, can you send me the stuff? I'll have a mess about it while my "project cools"
[19:38] <diederik> which stuff?
[19:38] <TankGirl> the stuff that doesn't work on pi
[19:38] <diederik> the code for the netinstaller is at https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
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[19:40] <diederik> the problem with pi3 not working has to do with the kernel and firmware and that's not something we do ourselves
[19:41] <dwaller> interesting
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[19:41] <diederik> We stand on the shoulders of giants (tm)
[19:41] <TankGirl> I'mma try plugging in the kernel and firmware from my barebonze Linux and see :D
[19:42] <diederik> if you modify the installer to use the 'raspberrypi-bootloader' package instead of what we do now, it may just work
[19:43] <dwaller> where is that located in the code? one of the shell scripts?
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[19:45] <diederik> you'd have to integrate it in update.sh to retrieve it, in build.sh to include it in the installer and in scripts/etc/init.d/rcS to install it onto the target system
[19:45] <TankGirl> plugging in the raw files = dead pi
[19:45] <TankGirl> so it's definately something really early in the boot
[19:46] <diederik> for starters the firmware files are too old, so that's indeed very early in the boot process ;)
[19:46] <TankGirl> swap bootcode.bin = no change
[19:47] <TankGirl> brb food
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[19:47] <diederik> it'll be far more substantial
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[19:50] <pnwise> Does anyone knows where rpi-update download files?
[19:50] <diederik> for the installer to even try to boot, you'd need a [pi3] header like you see here: https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/master/build.sh#L304
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[19:51] <diederik> pnwise: afaik from https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/
[19:52] <diederik> correction: https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/
[19:52] <dwaller> diederik: maybe i'll help dig into it, if you guys need help
[19:52] <TankGirl> start.elf
[19:52] <TankGirl> is where it "broken"
[19:52] <dwaller> i'm out, then
[19:52] <diederik> pull requests are always welcome :)
[19:52] <dwaller> i'm not a real coder
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[19:53] <dwaller> unless start.elf is magically created by the .sh scripts
[19:53] <dwaller> i'm just a sysadmin with scripting abilities
[19:54] <diederik> it is contained in the raspberrypi-bootloader package. We (now) get it from the raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel package though
[19:54] <TankGirl> yep I put the start file back from my project and then the pi magically runs
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[19:54] <diederik> adding pi3 support is probably not the best(/easiest) way to start :-P
[19:55] <TankGirl> Everything Besides the file to be actively run is compatible with the newest board
[19:55] <TankGirl> Which is usual with linux :P
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[19:57] <pnwise> I was wondering where I could find old images to clean them up
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[20:10] <dwaller> diederik: i think i might try and do the encryption up front vs. in post-install, so i'll be modifying rcS it looks like
[20:11] <dwaller> i'll just have to look at the commitlog to figure out what you guys did to fix pi3, once it comes to that
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[20:23] <diederik> dwaller: I suggest you to focus on v1.1.x branch as that's what our focus is on right now and it also has more features. And it's probably also easier to make your (specific) modifications in
[20:23] <dwaller> ok, i'll do a pull on one of those
[20:23] <dwaller> thanks for the advice
[20:23] <diederik> yw
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[20:44] <indie> Is there a way I can change my Raspbian terminal to send ctrl-h when backspace is pressed?
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[20:48] <dwaller> indie: what shell are you using?
[20:49] <indie> dwaller: bash
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[20:54] <indie> it's really annoying. I have to hit ctrl-H to backspace
[20:54] <dwaller> diederik: is preseeding an option with the unattended install, or was that the old way of doing things with the jerry.tk installer?
[20:54] <dwaller> indie: bash should do it by default
[20:54] <dwaller> i wonder if you selected the wrong type of keyboard
[20:54] <indie> dwaller: it does but once I telnet to another server is when I have trouble
[20:55] <dwaller> what is your shell on that other server?
[20:55] <dwaller> and why are you telnetting and not using ssh?
[20:55] <indie> MajorBBS on other server
[20:55] <indie> ssh is not an option
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[20:56] <indie> most terminal programs allow you to modify the keys in preferences
[20:56] <indie> but this one in raspbian does not, its so minimal
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[20:59] <indie> putty it is then lol
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[22:57] <niston> anyone know of a readily available VM for raspi cross dev/compiling?
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[23:03] <thurstylark> niston: personally, I'm using a systemd-nspawn container with the cross compiling tools from here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/kernel/building.md
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[23:08] <thurstylark> don't even need to emulate so far.
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