#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-05-31

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[1:09] <SPIHDMI> <SPIHDMI> Hello [21:09] <SPIHDMI> How can I write a script that when I run it it switches the mode from SPI to HDMI? I have my Pi in SPI mode for my touch screen, and I now would like to switch to HDMI. [21:09] <SPIHDMI> I am using Raspbian Jessie [21:09] <SPIHDMI> and a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B
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[7:58] <szwetsloot> Good morning
[8:00] <szwetsloot> Is it possible to let a function on the pi claim full use of the CPU for a small amount om time (5ms)? I am controlling an LCD from my pi but sometimes a line will flicker when another thread is using the CPU
[8:06] <szwetsloot> Anyone?
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[9:17] <AnRkey_> szwetsloot, cpulimit
[9:17] <AnRkey_> you can set it to limit a process based on its name since you won't know its PID after a reboot if it does not have a PID file you can cat
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[14:24] <NicoHood> I encrypted my raspbians root partition and after the latest dist-upgrade (kernel upgrade) the cryptsetup cannot find the (old) kernel anymore it seems. I think initramfs was not recongigured (i forget to do it manually). But shouldnt it get configured automatically again when such a kernel update happens?
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[15:44] <fishxz> hey, what could be the reason why my bluetooth audio works on my rpi2, but not on my rp1? both running libreelec.
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[15:44] <fishxz> could it be a usb power problem?
[15:45] <stray77> well what are you using for a power supply?
[15:45] <fishxz> official one
[15:45] <stray77> then likely not
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[15:46] <stray77> ive only got my bluetooth speaker working on my rpi3. I used noobs to install raspian and it all just worked
[15:46] <stray77> have you trusted the device?
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[15:47] <stray77> bluethoothclt trust <mac addr>
[15:47] <fishxz> i did it with the gui on libreelec, the same way i did it on my pi2
[15:47] <fishxz> not much u can do wrong
[15:47] <fishxz> here
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[16:36] <diederik> NicoHood: what does 'uname -r' say?
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[16:36] <NicoHood> I do not have a shell
[16:36] <NicoHood> the cryptsetup wants my password
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[16:37] <diederik> so you've essentially locked yourself out now?
[16:37] <NicoHood> yes
[16:38] <NicoHood> it sais can't change directory to "4.4.11-v7+"
[16:38] <NicoHood> I think i am able to decrypt the filesystem with my laptop. but the raspi should boot again for sure
[16:39] <NicoHood> and normally on my ubuntu i am used to that a kernel update will regenerate the initramfs. but i do not know much about this, so i might be wrong
[16:39] <diederik> that's because the debian (and therefor likely also ubuntu) kernel contains a post-install script which triggers initramfs-tools
[16:40] <diederik> therefor you're used to the initramfs being updated with every kernel update
[16:40] <NicoHood> so this is missing in the raspbian os?
[16:40] <NicoHood> so its actually a bug
[16:40] <diederik> but the raspberrypi.org kernel (as I call it) doesn't contain that
[16:41] <diederik> it's not a bug, but its presence would be an improvement, but the standard image doesn't use an initramfs by default
[16:41] <thurstylark> what does it use instead of an initramfs?
[16:42] <diederik> it boots straight into the kernel
[16:42] <thurstylark> then how would a kernel update break an install?
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[16:43] <diederik> if you use an encrypted root partition, you do need an initramfs
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[16:44] <diederik> when it initramfs loads, it can de-crypt the root partition and continue the boot. But that's exactly where NicoHood is stuck now
[16:45] <diederik> s/it/the/
[16:46] <thurstylark> ahh
[16:46] <thurstylark> right forgot about the encrypted root
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[16:58] <NicoHood> and what should i do now?
[16:58] <NicoHood> I think i need to generate a new initramfs
[16:58] <NicoHood> from a root filesystem i cannot decrypt
[16:58] <NicoHood> or may i just copy the old kernels?
[16:59] <NicoHood> and shouldn't this bug be reported, that initramfs is not regenerated?
[16:59] <thurstylark> ehh, copying the old kernel into the new system sounds ...breaky...
[17:01] <NicoHood> but why cant the initramfs decrypt the root partition? or it seems it does, but it cannot find the new kernel, as it searches for the old one
[17:02] <NicoHood> that is kinda tricky
[17:02] <NicoHood> could I create a recovery os where i can boot into from the raspi and then do a chroot?
[17:03] <thurstylark> That could work
[17:03] <thurstylark> make sure to mount /boot as well'
[17:03] <NicoHood> I will try that later
[17:03] <NicoHood> but isnt this a bug? who could i contact for this?
[17:03] <thurstylark> easiest would be if you had a 2nd sd card and a usb sdcard reader
[17:04] <NicoHood> I do have.
[17:04] <thurstylark> NicoHood: no it's not a bug. it's a design decision
[17:05] <NicoHood> isn't it then still a bad decision as all other linux i know operate differently? I do not think regenerating the initramfs creates errors
[17:05] <NicoHood> I was extremely happy to finally get my raspbian installation secure and then this kernel update totally broke it.
[17:06] <thurstylark> no it doesn't generate errors, but the normal installation doesn't use initramfs, so it's not necessary unless you want to encrypt which is a pretty small section of the user base
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[17:07] <NicoHood> but cant you do something like if used, then update it?
[17:08] <NicoHood> or at least: how can i fix this manually. I need to add those post kernel update triggers. i do not want to pay attention every time i upgrade my pi
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[17:36] <l9> gordonDrogon: wiringPiSetupPiFace() look at your docs and it seems like it has been removed, should i use that or?
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[17:47] <gordonDrogon> l9, hi. people are stuff isung the PiFace? wow ...
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> er, still using ...
[17:48] <gordonDrogon> l9, I think I've just never bothered to put it into the wiringpi.com site - it's still valid.
[17:50] <l9> hehe :P and i did understand why when i started too google piface, this should even a kindergarden kid understand... why the hell am i wasting time on it
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> it's one of the few boards with relays on it that has been done properly for the Pi though.
[17:52] <l9> its a good learning board but way too complicated for my taste
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> I wish they'd not bothered with the mcp23s17.
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[18:33] <NicoHood> any ideas about automatic initramfs generation on kernel updates?
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[18:47] <shiftplusone> NicoHood: are you asking for a list of steps or do you have a specific question?
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[18:48] <NicoHood> I'd like to fix the issue that the initramfs is not updated on a kernel update. and I do not really know the root issue. So in order to fix this issue i'd like to have some advice which script I may need to add or which setting/service i have to configure
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[18:53] <shiftplusone> Currently, the kernel maintainer scripts have "export INITRD=No" in them before running the hooks. Otherwise, it would build an initrd, which the standard install doesn't need. https://github.com/RPi-Distro/firmware/blob/debian/debian/raspberrypi-kernel.postinst#L251
[18:53] <shiftplusone> So, you could open an issue and ask for that to be replaced with a check of some sort to allow you to override that option.
[18:54] <shiftplusone> or modify the hook scripts themselves to build initrd regardless of what the INITRD variable is set to
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[20:18] <NicoHood> shiftplusone: thanks!
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[20:46] <triffid_> Ok is it just me or has every raspbian release since 2016-03-18 been broken in extreme ways
[20:47] <triffid_> like have you guys even tested this
[20:47] <triffid_> you can't even update apt with out fatal errors
[20:50] <triffid_> also can someone provide me a sha512sum of the img file of the new releases
[20:50] <triffid_> thanks
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[21:06] <Stormsys> Hi guys, no matter what i try i simply cannot get applications to start on my pi on boot
[21:06] <Stormsys> nothing works
[21:06] <Stormsys> /home/pi/.config/lxsession/LXDE-pi/autostart /.../xdgb/...
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[21:31] <thurstylark> Stormsys: have you tried a systemd service?
[21:36] <Stormsys> becuase its a browser
[21:36] <Stormsys> thurstylark, not yet - but i would need to use sleep + command right
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[21:39] <thurstylark> Stormsys: you could use a user service which would only start up when the user logs in. What's the end goal?
[21:42] <Stormsys> a wall dashboard
[21:42] <Stormsys> basically fullscreen iceweasel (or any browser with modern capabilities) on boot
[21:44] <thurstylark> Stormsys: might as well just bypass a de altogether. Modify your ~/.xinitrc to launch the browser directly instead of a de, and set x to start at boot
[21:44] <thurstylark> boom
[21:44] <thurstylark> done
[21:44] <thurstylark> :P
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[21:46] <thurstylark> that also should save resources that would otherwise be spent on a desktop that would always be in the background anyways :P
[21:47] <Stormsys> thurstylar
[21:47] <Stormsys> thurstylark, maybe i put the wrong thing in that file but it didnt originally work
[21:47] <Stormsys> what should i put in there?
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[21:50] <thurstylark> Stormsys: you should modify what's there, and change the last line from exec lxde (or whatever it is) to exec iceweasel with all the options you want. You can specify a web page on the command line, and probably some other options that will let you start in full screen.
[21:50] <thurstylark> check iceweasel's manpage to be sure
[21:50] <Stormsys> sure cool, okay sounds good so far
[21:50] <thurstylark> or chrome, or firefox, or whatever you end up using
[21:50] <Stormsys> i cant use chrome/firefox on arm7 raspiban can i?
[21:51] <Stormsys> and chromium isnt supported on jessie either as it stands
[21:51] <thurstylark> firefox maybe. Chrome, no. You'd need to use chromium. Don't know if it's in the repos...
[21:51] <thurstylark> it was when i last tried something like this about a year ago :P
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