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[0:44] <windowsrefund> hello
[0:45] <windowsrefund> I'm reading through the docs and don't see the default login credentials
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[0:50] <methuzla> id: pi, pw: raspberry
[0:52] <windowsrefund> ah
[0:54] <windowsrefund> thank you
[0:55] <methuzla> np
[0:56] <methuzla> i thought it used to be called out on the download page, but doesn't appear to be anymore
[0:56] <methuzla> odd
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[2:21] <mundus2018> Im having issues connecting to wifi -- http://i.imgur.com/SMGR45h.jpg
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[3:13] <ijessebee> hello
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[6:35] <anikras> hello, anyone know how to a backup sd card from ssh connection ?
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[7:26] <ShorTie> rpi-clone
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[7:54] <hade> * Hello
[7:55] * hade I want to join #raspberrypi channel. but I got notification:
[7:55] * hade #raspberrypi Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[7:55] <ShorTie> need to register your nic
[7:57] <hade> read : msg nickserv [password] [email]
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[7:58] <hade> what is nickserv mean and what is password (my password or channel password)?
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[8:18] <mildouze> Hello from this morning, a process named clamscan take 80% of my memory and slow down my raspi.
[8:19] <mildouze> This process is owned by www-data
[8:20] <mildouze> Last things I've done is install a new version of PluXml and increase upload from 2 M to 512 M
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[8:21] <mildouze> I've killed the processus but is back some seconds later.
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[8:33] <chteufleur> Hi
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[8:34] <chteufleur> Why LXDE doesn't start when the system is in read only mode ?
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[8:36] <vls-xy> what does the command "update-rc.d uv4l_raspicam defaults" do? I am trying to install uv4l to view a webcam on a raspberrypi with a small TFT display, but it does not seem to be working as the postinstall script fails
[8:39] <chteufleur> vls-xy: your uv4l_raspicam service will be executed on statup
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[10:55] <anikras> hello
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[10:56] <anikras> i want to create a backup from my raspberry to my computer, but I don't have usb drives
[10:56] <anikras> i want a backup with this commands ( dd, rsync, ssh,..)
[10:58] <Lartza> so... use those commands?
[10:58] <anikras> not all, but yes, because I don't have any usb drive
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[11:00] <Lartza> Yeah, so what seems to be the problem
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[11:05] <anikras> I think it is the command: sudo dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 | gzip -1 - | ssh user@hostname dd of=image.gz
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[12:12] <vls-xy> @chteufleur i was afk, but thanks to your answer got one step further. Thank you
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[12:27] <at0m> how would i get rpi cpu temp?
[12:28] <at0m> vls-xy: @ is so Slack'ish. another commercial irc derivate.
[12:28] <at0m> on irc, @ is just admin
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[12:32] <mike_t> at0m, cat /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[12:32] <at0m> mike_t: thanks, had been looking in /sys/ but got lost :)
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[13:10] <vls-xy> at0m i apologize... never used slackish, but the @ has cultivated in my office emails somehow
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[13:13] <thurstylark> 1 word: twitter :P
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[13:25] <vls-xy> doh' that is actually where I picked it up too. Although again I do not use it myself, I have been exposed to the occasional celebrity tweet.
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[13:26] <thurstylark> heh. no worries. It just doesn't have any benefit for irc, and it even breaks tab completion, so why bother :P
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[13:28] <vls-xy> old habits die hard; but i
[13:28] <vls-xy> will start saving that keystroke
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[17:09] <CentiZen> Hi all, I can't for the life of me get autostart to work
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[17:09] <CentiZen> Should be as simple as sticking a file called something.desktop in ~/.config/autostart right?
[17:10] <CentiZen> and then that gets run on boot? For some reason nothing I'm putting in there is getting run.
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[17:14] <shiftplusone> CentiZen: yeah, what ar eyou trying to autostart?
[17:15] <shiftplusone> it doesn't necessarily run on boot, it runs when lxde starts
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[17:15] <CentiZen> I'm just trying to get iceweasel to start
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[17:15] <shiftplusone> what does the .desktop file look like?
[17:15] <CentiZen> iceweasel
[17:16] <shiftplusone> that's not the format for a .desktop file
[17:16] <CentiZen> okay, that's probably why I'm having trouble then
[17:16] <shiftplusone> cp /usr/share/applications/iceweasel.desktop ~/.config/autostart/
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[17:22] <CentiZen> thanks shiftplusdne that was totally it
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[17:22] <shiftplusone> no worries
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[17:23] <RomRP> hello
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[17:23] <RomRP> !help
[17:23] <RomRP> .help
[17:24] <RomRP> =(
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[17:26] <RomRP> !help
[17:26] <RomRP> .help
[17:26] <thurstylark> RomRP: don't ask to ask. just state your question and someone will answer
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[17:27] <RomRP> thurstylark: I was trying to see if there is a bot.
[17:27] <thurstylark> nope
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[17:47] <RomRP> I formatted the SD Card (Sandisk Ultra 64 GB) as FAT32 on a mac. Executed the dd command with raspbian Jessie. After a lot of time said it wrote ok to the card. Put on the PI, insert the power. Leds on. Nothing happens
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[17:47] <RomRP> got a Pi2B
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[17:48] <chteufleur> Is your raspbian image is ok ? (md5sum)
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[17:53] <thurstylark> RomRP: what was the exact dd command you ran?
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[18:00] <RomRP> thurstylark: I use accordingly to my OS, the Mac OS X, sudo dd bs=1m if=2016-05-10-raspbian-jessie.img of=/dev/disk2s1
[18:00] <RomRP> and I was in the img directory
[18:01] <shiftplusone> don't know mac-speak, but I guess disk2s1 isn't right
[18:01] <thurstylark> RomRP: that images the partition. you need to image the disk. use of=/dev/diskX instead
[18:02] <shiftplusone> isn't rdiskX meant to be the faster way?
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[18:06] <RomRP> ok, thank you, started again as sudo dd bs=1m if=2016-05-10-raspbian-jessie.img of=/dev/disk2
[18:06] <RomRP> another 20000000000000000 seconds
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[18:40] <diederik> shiftplusone: correct
[18:40] <diederik> (rdiskX is faster)
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[18:47] <RomRP> WORKED! Darn, thank you people
[18:48] <RomRP> Thank you thurstylark
[18:48] <RomRP> thank you all
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[18:58] <thurstylark> Np
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[19:47] <valeech> Hello. I have installed raspbian on a Pi2. Sound works over HDMI for the pi user and root. But I cannot get sound to work for new users. Any idea what I need to do to get it working for other users?
[19:48] <thurstylark> valeech: add the user to the audio group
[19:49] <valeech> thurstylark: I did that and it did not change anything.
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[19:50] <thurstylark> valeech: did you log out and back in afterwards?
[19:50] <at0m> i'm about to order 2 rpi's. one for kid's bday and mostly mpd/IM, another for running motion on sunsets over the river. rpié or 3? doubting
[19:50] <valeech> I thought I did. Trying it again now.
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[19:50] <at0m> (proud owner of multiple rpi's already, just havent dived into rpi3)
[19:50] <thurstylark> when in doubt: REBOOT! :P
[19:50] <valeech> I just did reboot :)
[19:50] <at0m> good jokes
[19:51] <at0m> reboot is so 1998
[19:51] <thurstylark> heh
[19:51] <at0m> this ain't windows ME
[19:52] <thurstylark> tell that to people who wonder why shit's super broken after updating their kernel :P
[19:52] <at0m> this isn't #archlinux either.
[19:53] <at0m> so my main question, rpi 2 or 3
[19:53] <thurstylark> lol
[19:53] <at0m> i know the rpi2 runs solid for long
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[19:54] <at0m> rpi3, idk, it's a lil experimental. not to mention the 64bits thingie.
[19:56] <JamesC_> hi there folks, just got myself an rpi3, trying to install RetroPie on top of stock raspbian image, but I get a kernel panic when trying to install libboost1.55-dev. Anyone else see anything similar?
[19:56] <at0m> i'm not, trying to steer away from such actually.
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[19:57] <JamesC_> I get the same panic regardless of RetroPie actually. Just trying to install libboost on its own seems to cause a panic
[19:57] <at0m> maybe dev list/bug reports?
[19:57] <JamesC_> yup probably, just wanted to see if anyone else had see something similar
[19:57] <valeech> thurstylark: the logout/login fixed it
[19:57] <valeech> thanks
[19:57] <thurstylark> np
[20:00] <diederik> at0m: 3 of course. Why would you want to get a 2?
[20:00] * windowsrefund just read about RetroPie and is going to try it out tonight
[20:00] <at0m> cos i knows it just works(TM)?
[20:01] * windowsrefund wants to play Mike Tyson's Punchout
[20:01] <diederik> what may not work perfectly now, will so in the future
[20:01] <at0m> diederik: this is machines to run remotely for long time without any of my intervening
[20:02] <at0m> months on end, say
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[20:02] <diederik> does it need to be deployed NOW?
[20:02] <thurstylark> "RPi: It Just Works™" isn't a slogan I thought I'd ever hear :P
[20:02] <at0m> i'm ordering before the weekend. and ye deployment in a week.
[20:03] <at0m> ACUPTIME
[20:03] <at0m> OOPS
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[20:03] <at0m> dammit sofasurfers.
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[20:04] <thurstylark> fwiw, my company uses RPis, and we're staying away from the 3 for now
[20:04] <thurstylark> 2 has way more power than we
[20:04] <thurstylark> 're using anyways, and we don't need the wireless capabilities
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[20:06] <diederik> if it's 'mission critical' and/or you're making money out of it, you could consider the 2. For your kid, I'd surely go for the 3 (assuming you do have access to it from time to time)
[20:06] <at0m> thurstylark: yea just doubting over the wifi really. i could like transsparantly snoop my way in and set up a hostapd, but afaik the people im going to install this are willing to compromise their LAN for this and i could just use that.
[20:07] <at0m> i wont be making any money out of it, but yes i'm getting payed.
[20:07] <at0m> for expenses
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[20:42] <briantopping__> hi all quick Q, anyone recognize http://home.nouwen.name/RaspberryPi/documentation/ilcomponents/ ? I understand OpenMAX pretty well, just trying to understand the colors on this page!
[20:44] <briantopping__> googling for "color" along with openmax or that page inevitably leads to descriptions of multimedia capabilities in color. (Things were simpler when everything was B&W...)
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[20:49] <at0m> that, and colour. cos english.
[20:49] <briantopping> ;)
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[20:49] <briantopping> such flavour
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[20:50] <at0m> and me, trying to convey all to use english, like, the language of machines. then there's color and colour.
[20:51] <shiftplusone> yellow seems to be clock signals O_o.... I'll see if the source of that documentation is any more enlightening
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[20:53] <briantopping> shiftplusone: I kinda figured like that, inputs on the left, outputs on the right
[20:53] <shiftplusone> yup
[20:54] <briantopping> but it didn't make much sense that audio_capture took a clock signal and then I was looking through the docs for an input port for it, maybe I missed it though
[20:55] <briantopping> oops, that's actually correct... APB+0 audio output Emits source’s audio stream. OPB+0 other/time input Receives media time updates/provides access to clock component.
[20:56] <at0m> working with such clocks a lot, clock onda wall isnt samplerate clock
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[20:56] <briantopping> the spec differentiates on "audio, image, video, other"
[20:56] <briantopping> other containing clock
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[20:57] <at0m> for video, rough clock suffices
[20:57] <shiftplusone> well, I see that ports have tags like 'a, v, i' ... which I guess is that
[20:57] <shiftplusone> and also where the colour comes from
[20:57] <shiftplusone> for example: null_sink/V-240,I-241,A-242/
[20:58] <shiftplusone> so red is video,pink is image, green is audio?
[20:58] <shiftplusone> seems to match what I am seeing
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[21:01] <briantopping> spec doesn't cover some components in that list, text_scheduler, null_sink.. hard to decode what the cyan is
[21:01] <briantopping> maybe those are raspberry-specific software components
[21:01] <shiftplusone> colours = {'A' : 'green', 'V' : 'red', 'C' : 'yellow', 'T' : 'cyan', 'I' : 'pink'};
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[21:03] <at0m> all shades of grey here.
[21:06] <briantopping> i had this semantic web moment last night when I looked to see if he had CSS with symbolic names for the colors....
[21:07] <thurstylark> at0m: nobody expects you're a dog on the internet :P
[21:08] <at0m> thurstylark: but everyone knows
[21:09] <at0m> so rpi3's it's gonnna be. unless subjections.
[21:10] <shiftplusone> I think cyan is also clock and yellow is ... that and port info? I don't know enough about omx.
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[21:41] <winterflaw> is there an ETA for a 64 bit kernel on the Pi3?
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[21:42] <shiftplusone> It's not something that's seriously being worked on.
[21:42] <shiftplusone> winterflaw: what do you want it for?
[21:43] <winterflaw> oh
[21:43] <winterflaw> that's intersting
[21:43] <winterflaw> I don't actually know if it would matter to me or not
[21:43] <winterflaw> I am the author of a lock-free data structure library
[21:44] <winterflaw> I want an ARM64 platform to use for porting and testing
[21:44] <shiftplusone> Oh, the one that was on hackernews a few days ago?
[21:44] <winterflaw> ARM has contigious double-word atomic compare-and-swap
[21:44] <winterflaw> yes
[21:44] <shiftplusone> ah, cool.
[21:44] <winterflaw> I imagine the instructions for it on ARM64 have changed
[21:44] <winterflaw> the library uses GCC and it's atomic intrinsics
[21:44] <shiftplusone> There are a few experimental 64 bit kernels out there which might be enough to test it out.
[21:45] <winterflaw> I wonder how they will behave, as a 32-bit GCC on a 64-bit platform
[21:45] <shiftplusone> but you'd need to run debian, not raspbian for the full 64-bit-ness
[21:45] <winterflaw> probably it will seem to me like a 32 bit CPU
[21:45] <winterflaw> I see
[21:45] <winterflaw> mmm
[21:45] <winterflaw> thnkyou for your help :-)
[21:46] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/Electron752/boot64-rpi3
[21:46] <winterflaw> lols - love the most recent commit comment =-)
[21:50] <shiftplusone> winterflaw: looking at patches on the upstream mailing list and there is some work going on to better support 64bit mode
[21:50] <shiftplusone> Someone just sent "Gets USB and networking to work on Raspberry Pi 3 in 64 bit."
[21:50] <winterflaw> nice
[21:51] <winterflaw> vital in fact
[21:52] <shiftplusone> upstream usb stack for the pi isn't all that great though.... would be nice to start pulling the 64bit support commits down, but I don't think they'll be cherry-picked... will need to wait for them to naturally flow down.
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[21:53] <winterflaw> I'm (naively) surprised there isn't a strong push to get the 64 bit kernel out - I mean, 64 bit hardware, surely it's just incomplete without a 64 bit OS
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[21:55] <shiftplusone> the initial position was that the core was picked because it's a good 32bit core, which also happens to support 64bit. A few people did get a 64bit kernel running, ran some benchmarks and... oh, performance goes down in some cases and only increases a tiny bit in others.
[21:56] <shiftplusone> might be that gcc doesn't quite know how to utilise it properly yet, but we'll see what happens.
[21:56] <winterflaw> could be
[21:57] <winterflaw> I once had a GCC on ARM which silently emitted nothing for the atomic intrinsics
[21:57] <shiftplusone> efficient
[21:57] <winterflaw> grin
[21:57] <winterflaw> only in terms of instructions - it wasn't so efficient in terms of data structure function :-)
[21:58] <winterflaw> it's pretty straightforward, in so much as is it ever is with GCC inline assembly, to write inline asm for LL and SC
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[23:28] <munip> Would it be a good idea to buy an RPi+4TB HDD for use as a backup NAS?
[23:28] <munip> I currently have 2.5+TB of data without backups
[23:28] <munip> And I would like to change that
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[23:40] <b3nn1> the rpi is awfully slow
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[23:40] <b3nn1> I would not recommend it for such a big storage
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