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IRC Log for 2016-07-06

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[1:19] -orwell.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[1:19] -orwell.freenode.net- *** Checking Ident
[1:19] -orwell.freenode.net- *** No Ident response
[1:19] -orwell.freenode.net- *** Found your hostname
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[1:20] * Topic is 'Raspbian -- Debian hard float for the Raspberry Pi: http://www.raspbian.org/ Logs at: http://plugwash.raspbian.org/logs/ looking for mirrors in asia, africa and south america if you are experiancing issues installing raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel DO NOT REBOOT until they are sorted out'
[1:20] * Set by plugwash!~plugwash@2a02:c7f:ba13:f000:219:e3ff:fe39:a22e on Fri Jun 10 09:50:36 UTC 2016
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[3:10] <nerds> g'evening gents
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[3:53] <sergioad> Hello friends
[3:53] <sergioad> first time here on the channel
[3:54] <sergioad> I am planning to buy a Raspberry pi for making it a gamming console + media center
[3:54] <sergioad> some recommendation?
[3:54] <nerds> recommendation of what
[3:55] <nerds> sergioad: have you heard of Pines64 and LattePanda ??
[3:57] <sergioad> nerds: nope
[3:57] <sergioad> I was thinking on using RetroPie
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[3:59] <nerds> well the LattePanda and Pines64 are like Pi3 but different
[3:59] <nerds> they're single board computers
[3:59] <nerds> the LattePanda has 4GiB of ram and a lot more
[3:59] <sergioad> nerds: really?
[4:00] <nerds> yeah
[4:00] <nerds> I been checking them out cause Pi creaters seem to be slowing down with progress
[4:00] <sergioad> well, I was thinking on adquiring a Raspberry 3 model B, a power supply for it, a keyboard, a case for the chipset an HDMI to RCA cable and some USB SNES NES Genesis and XBOX 360 USB gamepads
[4:01] <nerds> sweet
[4:01] <nerds> not a bad plan at all
[4:01] <nerds> :)
[4:01] <nerds> I have Pi3's
[4:04] <sergioad> thank you very much :) a friend of mine given me 200 USD so the first I wanted was an XBOX elite controller but I thought better and I preferred to buy a Raspberry Pi due it's current price on Amazon Mexico
[4:07] <sergioad> because that way I could enjoy something better nerds
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[4:08] <nerds> ice
[4:08] <nerds> nice*
[4:10] <sergioad> nerds: but them a thought came to my mind, how could I turn it on or off? that thought came me because thiniking about the structure of the raspberry's case I figured that there where any hole for a power or restart buton
[4:11] <nerds> well they have cheap wireless xbox controllers ones that even work on windows
[4:11] <nerds> well any device really that accepts it
[4:12] <sergioad> and how I could turn on my console after shutting it down?
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[4:12] <nerds> huh
[4:12] <sergioad> I mean, I can not have it always connected
[4:13] <nerds> well they make switches that are part of the power cord
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[4:13] <nerds> that's what I have
[4:13] <nerds> like little buttons
[4:13] <nerds> it's on the cord itself
[4:13] <sergioad> I see
[4:13] <nerds> You press it and it disconnects power supplying your Pi
[4:14] <nerds> they're like 5or 6 dollars for cheap ones
[4:14] <nerds> on amazon
[4:14] <sergioad> cool, thank you very much :)
[4:14] <sergioad> now I need goo to feed my dogs :)
[4:14] <sergioad> thank you very much
[4:14] <nerds> yabba doo
[4:14] <nerds> high five
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[4:58] <sergioad> I am back
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[5:26] <nerds> cool how ya been
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[5:35] <sergioad> nerds: I am fine
[5:35] <sergioad> nerds: my shipping could be shipped in July 27th :)
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[8:49] <johngilbrough> I've just installed hexchat, now how do I put in on the launch bar as it does not show up under "Application Launch Bar Settings"?
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[9:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:30] <lordPoseidon> 1
[10:31] <lordPoseidon> how to send the files from RPI to my PC by using scp
[10:31] <lordPoseidon> i do scp <file name> <myusername>@<myIP>:~
[10:31] <lordPoseidon> to send the file at home
[10:32] <lordPoseidon> I used the same IP which i used on ssh pi@<IP>
[10:32] <lordievader> lordPoseidon: That is the correct syntax.
[10:32] <lordPoseidon> but when I do it, it asked for the password
[10:32] <lordPoseidon> event I entered the correct pass, it said permission denied
[10:33] <lordPoseidon> and after 3 tries says connection lost
[10:33] <lordPoseidon> but i can send the files to RPI throught scp from my pc by same command
[10:33] <lordievader> Can you ssh to it useing the same user and password?
[10:34] <lordPoseidon> just add username to pi
[10:34] <lordPoseidon> I have ubuntu in my pc
[10:35] <lordievader> So, can you ssh from the Ubuntu machine to the Pi?
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[10:43] <lordPoseidon> do anyone know how to do this
[10:59] <lordievader> lordPoseidon: Can you answer my question?
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[15:09] <marcushh777> hi all
[15:10] <Ghostbird> Hiya
[15:12] <marcushh777> waz going on
[15:12] <Ghostbird> Well, it's been real quiet. Last talk was around 4 hours ago, someone asking about SCP.
[15:13] <marcushh777> k
[15:13] <marcushh777> good day to you..
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[15:39] <Echo6> Ok, I have a strange one. I have an OrangePi that I am setting up with Cacti. I got Apache, PHP, SNMP, RRDTool, MySQL, and GD installed. I got Cacti set up. I added the cron job. I have no graphs. I checked the permissions and that is fine. It doesn't create the rrd files when a data source is added. I can create them from the command line and set the permissions. It also doesn't display the graphs. I installed the realtime plugin and it has the same
[15:39] <Echo6> problem. RRD is recoginized in the phpinfo() dump. The system behaves like PHP can't access it though.
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[15:55] <gordonDrogon> Echo6, why not ask in the organgePi channels/forums?
[16:01] <Echo6> Because its raspbian as well as an OrangePi so I'm seeking help in both places
[16:01] <Echo6> Is this not where you seek assistance with Raspbian?
[16:03] <gordonDrogon> I guess so, but it's also Debian and there are millions of stuff online about doing this with Debian.
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[16:12] <ImARobot> Hello.
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[16:31] <diederik> vagrantc: just tried linux-image-4.6.0-1-armmp-lpae-signed on a Pi 2, but it didn't boot (got rainbow screen). You had better luck?
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[16:32] <vagrantc> Linux rpi2b 4.7.0-rc3-armmp-lpae #1 SMP Debian 4.7~rc3-1~exp1 (2016-06-18) armv7l GNU/Linux
[16:33] <vagrantc> on one board
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[16:33] <vagrantc> Linux rpi2c 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-armmp-lpae #1 SMP Debian 4.6.1-1~bpo8+1 (2016-06-14) armv7l GNU/Linux
[16:33] <vagrantc> on another
[16:33] <diederik> and they all work?
[16:33] <vagrantc> yes
[16:33] <diederik> which firmware package are you using?
[16:33] * vagrantc shrugs
[16:34] <diederik> apt-cache policy raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel
[16:34] <vagrantc> not installed on either
[16:35] <diederik> where did you get the various .dat/.elf files from then?
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[16:37] <vagrantc> i may have manually extracted them from some old version of the raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel package, or from an image, or from some git repository
[16:37] <diederik> ah ok, thanks
[16:37] <vagrantc> sorry to not be more helpful
[16:38] <vagrantc> is there a way to check by looking at the fat partition
[16:38] <vagrantc> ?
[16:38] <diederik> you could try 'dpkg -S /boot/start.elf'
[16:38] <diederik> but not sure whether it would give sth useful
[16:38] <vagrantc> diederik: i also boot using u-boot as the "kernel"
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[16:39] <vagrantc> well, i didn't install with a package, so it surely won't produce anything helpful
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[16:39] <diederik> maybe that's a critical difference
[16:39] <vagrantc> but i am fairly sure eah board has a wildly different firmware version
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[16:43] <diederik> there's a good chance that the pi kernel needs some special treatment (padding?) for it to work properly ... not entirely sure though
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[16:48] * vagrantc loads u-boot from the rpi firmware, u-boot loads a boot script, which loads vmlinuz, initrd and dtb and boots using u-boot's bootz.
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[16:57] <diederik> I don't know much/anything about u-boot, but what I just found indicates that the boot scripts sets it to the right address to load the kernel from
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[17:16] <Echo6> gordonDrogon: Do you think I would be here if I had found the answer in any of the several posts that I went through?
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[17:18] <gordonDrogon> no idea but the stuff you're asking about is very common - should be fairly easy to find answers anywhere, really.
[17:19] <Echo6> If it were that easy I would have solved it by now.
[17:20] <Echo6> Let me help you, its not as simple as the quick Google search you did. This is way I provided the detail level that I did when I made the original request.
[17:21] <Echo6> The stuff you will find will tell me that I need to check permissions, check RRDTool, check the extension, check version setting, check check check.
[17:21] <Echo6> I've done all of that, I did that before I came here.
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[18:10] <marcushh777> gordonDrogon: hi ... are you the gordon that does wiringpi, or is that another Gordon...
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[18:14] <gordonDrogon> marcushh777, yes, that's me.
[18:15] <marcushh777> gordonDrogon: well, first thanks for all you do! -its fantastic. I have a proposal, you may or may not be interested in
[18:15] <gordonDrogon> maybe, who knows :)
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[18:16] <marcushh777> I am interested in porting wiringpi & pigpio libraries to the PineA64 platform (both debian and unbuntu, maybe arch)
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[18:16] <marcushh777> gordonDrogon: have you given any thought to this, are you interested, would this be doable...?
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[18:17] <gordonDrogon> people have ported it to other platforms. I don't have the resources or time/energy to do the port (or maintain it) myself. It's lGPL, so feel free to fork it.
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[18:20] <marcushh777> gordonDrogon: thank you. I didn't want to even attempt it without talking to you about it. Its for educational purposes, similar to the RPi platform as it depends on me, so I'm excited to provide similar functionality there...
[18:20] <marcushh777> .. but its like, why reinvent the wheel, right?
[18:21] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[18:21] <marcushh777> gordonDrogon: does Joan frequent this channel?
[18:21] <gordonDrogon> I don't know. not by that name if they do.
[18:21] <marcushh777> figures
[18:23] <marcushh777> gordonDrogon: by the by, your work on the Gertboard stuff is pretty brilliant also... I've had lots of fun with the atmel programming from the RPi ! thanks
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[18:40] <gordonDrogon> gertboard is old now.
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> saying that I'm currently looking for an arduino to build a test project on and a gertboard is on my desk in-front of me.
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> however so is the gertduino, so I'll use that..
[18:43] <marcushh777> I don't have a gertduino yet; maybe soon.
[18:43] <marcushh777> my Gertboard sat in a box (kind forgot about it) for almost two years... then I rediscovered it !
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> not sure I'd bother with the gertduino now.
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> so many other solutions.
[18:44] <marcushh777> k... well, for playtime, my Gertboard works great
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[20:09] <YesMan> hello how can I move whole the content of a directory somewhere else ?
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[20:25] <marcushh777> YesMan: there are a couple of ways... is any of it rootable ?
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[20:26] <YesMan> I actually found a simple way... wildcard inside the directory and then pointing to the destination directory. I've been only using mv to move one file at a time and didn't even thought the thing through. It was pretty strait forward
[20:27] <marcushh777> YesMan: yes, mv is interative... will move whole contents... if you need to copy an entire directory preserving permissions use tar
[20:28] <marcushh777> tar -cvf - -C <previous directory> <directory you want to copy> | tar -xvf -
[20:29] <marcushh777> the hypen ( - ) after the -cvf is standard out
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[20:29] <marcushh777> you're taring to standard out, then untaring to standard in
[20:29] <marcushh777> BUT you have to be in the directory you want the contents to go...
[20:30] <marcushh777> YesMan: its a great trick too for copying whole usb drives, entire CDs, &c
[20:32] <gordonDrogon> I think cp -a ... might be somewhat easier than the tar method these days ...
[20:33] <marcushh777> oh... I'll look at it... tnx
[20:34] <marcushh777> gordonDrogon: is it guaranteed to preserve permissions (even root)?
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> yes. the -a is archive mode.
[20:34] <marcushh777> aah
[20:34] <marcushh777> reading it now...
[20:35] <marcushh777> so cp -Ra will get the whole directory and archive (preserve permissions)
[20:35] <marcushh777> ?
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> yes, but you don't need the -R as -a assumed -R
[20:35] <marcushh777> ~nice
[20:36] <marcushh777> its probably faster than tar too, but at least with tar you can see it working...
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[20:48] <thurstylark> marcushh777: just add -v :P
[20:48] <Habbie> without reading all of it
[20:48] <Habbie> rsync is often a good choice
[20:48] <Habbie> it can be verbose including progress meters
[20:48] <Habbie> it can resume
[20:49] <Habbie> it can quickly update the dest if you change something minor at the source
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[20:50] <gordonDrogon> I use rsync, but mainly for machine to machine stuff... cp -au of-course if you have to stop/resume ...
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[20:53] <marcushh777> thurstylark: -v doh ! (do I always forget the obvious?) :D
[20:53] <thurstylark> heh
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[21:07] <Echo6> ok. I have confirmed that the poller is working and data is being stored in the RRD files. I can render the graph manually but can't get it to show up in cacti.
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[21:36] <marcushh777> Echo6: http://www.cacti.net/download_cacti.php
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