#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-07-10

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[6:01] <JZA> hi I want to use raspbian for digital signage, I have a RbP 2, wonder if the browser is powerful enough to display heavy Jquery
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[6:11] <diederik> JZA: I wouldn't couldn't on it
[6:12] <JZA> diederik: why?
[6:12] <diederik> because everything needs to happen in the CPU which isn't very powerful
[6:12] <JZA> I thought their GPU was sophsiticated enough.
[6:13] <JZA> and I thought the Raspberry new version had improved CPU
[6:13] <diederik> it is, but afaik there still isn't a (proper) hardware accelerated browser for the Pi
[6:14] <JZA> and has a VideoCore IV 3D graphics core
[6:14] <JZA> oh um.. so is the browser's fault?
[6:14] <diederik> all the Pi's have the VC IV graphics core
[6:15] <JZA> so what can I do as far as digital signage goes?
[6:15] <diederik> the Pi 3 is a lot more powerful then the Pi 2, which was a HUGE improvement over the Pi 1
[6:15] <JZA> can I run an image slider with no issue or even that will cause frame delay
[6:16] <diederik> The Pi 3 can be used for browsing, but don't expect too much of it. And my reaction was mostly based on your 'heavy jquery' statement
[6:16] <diederik> I have no experience with digital signage
[6:17] <JZA> well let say, Javascript animations.
[6:17] <JZA> yeah I want to have a javascript video player for example at the same time some JQuery ticket on the bottom of the browser screen.
[6:17] <diederik> if you want performance, search a way to (directly) use the GPU.
[6:19] <diederik> if you know a javascript/jquery heavy site, load it in a browser and see what you think of it('s performance). That's the only real way to find out.
[6:20] <JZA> what is your experience, I do have a couple of Rbp but they dont have raspbians, i used them for distro specific tasks.
[6:21] <diederik> I've only used my Pi's headless
[6:21] <JZA> ok
[6:22] <diederik> ok, I have tried the default image once or twice, but that's it. And I wasn't impressed by the browser speed and that was (iirc) not a heavy javascript based site
[6:24] <diederik> the performance is likely irrelevant to the distro you'd use. I can't image arch (for example) being a lot faster then raspbian
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[6:40] <Package> Hello
[6:41] <Package> I am trying to get the most recent copy of the repository "evince". I am getting a 404 not found. How can I install the repo without using sup apt-get update?
[6:41] <Package> *sudo
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[6:44] <diederik> You don't "install" a repo, you retrieve things from it. And thus a 404 is an issue
[6:45] <diederik> and to retrieve things from it, you add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list and retrieve the list of packages it has with "sudo apt-get update"
[6:46] <Package> diederik: oh I see. How can I fix this problem
[6:46] <Package> I can't use sudo apt-get update
[6:46] <diederik> why not?
[6:47] <diederik> don't you mean the evince application?
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[6:47] <Package> It kills my internet and then I have to reflash the sd
[6:48] <diederik> Then my guess is that you have a faulty sd card
[6:48] <Package> Yes
[6:49] <Package> The Internet only stops after running sudo apt-get update
[6:49] <Package> Sudo rpi-update runs fine
[6:52] <diederik> If you can't run apt-get update, you have real problems. I'm sticking to my guess of a faulty sd card
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[7:14] <Package> Never mind I ot it working:) thanks for your help
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[7:31] <nerds> oi
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[7:32] <Wicd> Hello
[7:32] <Wicd> For some reason Wicd can disconnect from a wired Ethernet connection but it can't reconnect. How can I fix this?
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[10:19] <szwetsloot> Hey everyone. I am trying to get a xbee connected to my raspberry pi 3b
[10:19] <szwetsloot> I am using the code provided here to start with: https://github.com/WiringPi/WiringPi/blob/master/examples/serialTest.c
[10:19] <szwetsloot> But my console window only continously outputs -1 as result, even though the led on my xbee shield shows that no data is being received.
[10:20] <szwetsloot> Does one of you know what might cause this?
[10:26] <gordonDrogon> szwetsloot, hi - wiringPi is hosted at http://wiringpi.com/ - the github site is a fork maintained by someone else.
[10:27] <gordonDrogon> -1 from serial test means a timeout.
[10:27] <szwetsloot> Ah, so I should simply put: while(serialDataAvail(device) > 0)?
[10:27] <gordonDrogon> so if no data, then after 10 seconds it will time out... so you're seeing what should be expected.
[10:28] <szwetsloot> Although it times out after approximately 1ms instead of 10 seconds
[10:28] <gordonDrogon> maybe something else is going on then. make sure you have the right path to /dev/ttyXXXXXX and the right baud rate.
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> also, serialTest really is not something I'd run on an xbee device. it is designed to run with the serial pins looped back...
[10:29] <szwetsloot> ./dev/ttyAMA0 is the pins right?
[10:30] <szwetsloot> 14 and 15?
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[10:30] <gordonDrogon> I don't know how the xbee is connected - if it's plugged into the gpio then probably.
[10:30] <szwetsloot> Thanks
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[12:12] <minus> hello, i've set up my pi zero as usb ethernet gadget (according to https://gist.github.com/gbaman/50b6cca61dd1c3f88f41, the usb0 interface does exist on rpi side) but it doesn't even show up as any usb device on my host (laptop with arch, lsusb | wc -l doesn't change after booting the pi). any hints on why nothing shows up? i've connected the pi via the power usb port to my laptop
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[12:27] <niston> only via the power usb port?
[12:28] <BurtyB> just the USB port would make more noodle
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[12:37] <minus> oh, i connected an additional cable and now it shows up
[12:39] <BurtyB> the usb connector can also power it
[12:41] <minus> doesn't look like it, i power it via the power port but only get a usb device when using the other port
[12:41] <BurtyB> yes I mean you only need to use the one labelled USB which can also power the zero
[12:42] <minus> mh
[12:43] <minus> oh, it does
[12:43] <minus> i thought i tried that before
[12:43] <minus> but that means i only get one usb port, right?
[12:44] <BurtyB> you only get one anyway, the other is power only
[12:44] <minus> bleh
[12:48] <minus> zero usb ports when using gadget mode kinda sucks, but wasn't necessary anyway. thanks for your help
[12:50] <brianx> if it's something low performance like a keyboard, you can share usb ports from the host.
[12:54] <minus> forwarding a usb device from the host to the pi? how'd that work?
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[12:55] <ericb2> hi
[12:55] <minus> another question: to get ethernet and serial, do i have to load g_multi, g_ether and g_serial or does g_cdc alone suffice?
[12:57] <ericb2> just FYI, I'm doing a smoke test with the raspbian + a customized cooler, building OOo4Kids in parallel mode : 4 cores, with every 3 jobs. Current temperature is 64°C (the maxi value), and the load is 100% for every core
[12:58] <ericb2> means no problem, and very nice machine ! Guys, you did a good job
[12:58] <BurtyB> minus, dwc2 and g_cdc does it for me
[12:58] <minus> cool
[12:59] <ericb2> if I remember correctly, without the cooler, I reached around 102°C, what is basicaly different :-)
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[13:03] <minus> can you fix the mac address of the adapter on the host, BurtyB?
[13:03] <szwetsloot> @gordonDrogon: Hey, do you have time to help me out with another serial problem?
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[13:05] <szwetsloot> Does anyone here know how to open up your serial port on a raspberry pi 3b?
[13:05] <szwetsloot> I tried all kind of tutorials, but they all talk about a file in /etc/inittab, which my pi doesn't seem to have
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[13:11] <szwetsloot> Anyone please?
[13:12] <ericb2> szwetsloot, sorry, I did that long time ago, but not with this board (was a Pandaboard), and I forgot everything :-/
[13:12] <szwetsloot> erich2 ah okay, I understand
[13:13] <szwetsloot> erich2:
[13:13] <ericb2> szwetsloot, the only thing I remember is that I did a common mistake with the cable (swapping two pins was the solution)
[13:14] <szwetsloot> Yeah, I checked that. But apparently the serial pins are generally blocked because they are used for debugging messages
[13:14] <szwetsloot> But for some reason I can't seem to unblock them.
[13:14] <ericb2> maybe it was the Beagle board even ..
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[13:22] <BurtyB> minus, yes with g_cdc.host_addr=... and g_cdc.dev_addr=... in the zeros cmdline.txt
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[13:28] <gordonDrogon> szwetsloot, there is some runes you need in /boot/config.txt to make the serial port work on the Pi 3. Don't have it to hand though.
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[13:28] <szwetsloot> @gordonDrogon: Thanks, I think I figured it out
[13:28] <szwetsloot> @gordonDraogn: At least it is sending something now, although it still looks like garbage
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[13:29] <szwetsloot> @gordonDrogon: Got it to work :), baudrate issue
[13:32] <ericb2> szwetsloot, great :-)
[13:32] <szwetsloot> erich2: :-D
[13:34] <szwetsloot> erich2: Now to connect the xbee :|
[13:42] <szwetsloot> Andeverything works :-D
[13:43] <szwetsloot> erich2, @gordonDrogon, thanks a million for your help
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[14:35] <Dagger> how do I get `sensors` to show the temperature on a Pi Zero?
[14:36] <Dagger> `sensors` says no sensors found, `sensors-detect` can't find any, yet I can do `cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp` to get the temp so clearly something's capable of reading it
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[14:58] <szwetsloot> Is it possible to write files to the SD card of your pi so that windows can get them?
[14:58] <szwetsloot> Simply trying to open the card is proving difficult as windows doesn't seem to get the file system on there.
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[15:00] <Dagger> if they're small you could use /boot. that should work in Windows
[15:00] <Dagger> otherwise you'll need ext4 support in Windows, which MS doesn't seem too enthusiastic about adding
[15:01] <szwetsloot> Dagger: I want to write a program on windows which can get specific files from my pi.
[15:02] <szwetsloot> Dagger: I am using the pi in a handheld device and it logs data all the time. Now I want to be able to export this data to a PC, preferably through the SD
[15:02] <szwetsloot> Dagger: Is that impossible?
[15:04] <Dagger> I guess you could repartition the card to add a new vfat partition (or expand /boot) if you need more space
[15:04] <szwetsloot> Dagger: nvm, found a program (LinuxReader) which can do it
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[15:06] <Dagger> ...ok, sounds good. probably needs administrator rights, but hey
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[19:31] <wicd> Hello
[19:31] <wicd> I am getting this problem https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=51778 but I have to use wicd and wired. How can I properly fix this problem?
[19:32] <wicd> Hello
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[19:37] <wicd> Hello
[19:37] <wicd> I am getting this problem https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=51778 but I have to use wicd. How can I fix this problem?
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[19:46] <Ghostbird> wicd: Maybe ask this in a WICD channel. I think the chance that you find someone who knows it is greater there.
[19:47] <wicd> Ghostbird: I did, there is no activity there
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[20:03] <wicd> Brb I will try something
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[23:10] <confuzzeled> I've configured rsyslogd to receive data from my router, however I've noticed it appears to now be continually pinging my router. Is this expected behaviour and can it be disabled? the pi is also going to be logging netflow data so it would be nice if i could prevent this constant ping from occurring.
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[23:18] <confuzzeled> sorry, ignore that. netflow's causing the pings.
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