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[0:14] <[Saint]> Hmmmmm.
[0:14] <[Saint]> Wow, that's almost unbelievable.
[0:15] <[Saint]> rpi-update (when run with default arguments) doesn't appear to know or care if the boot partition is mounted RO.
[0:15] <[Saint]> I realize it's not considered a supported update mechanism, but, damn.
[0:17] <[Saint]> Entirely unrelated to the above - whom do I prod to see about a change in the default packages with Raspbian and/or Raspbian Lite?
[0:19] <[Saint]> Without libpam-systemd (which itself is only ~300Kb and has no dependencies that aren't already shipped with either distribution) included, you'll never get a clean hangup over ssh if you reboot/shutdown, and the ssh session just has to wait until it detects the broken pipe, which with default settings is somewhere around 90s.
[0:22] <[Saint]> Somewhat related to rpi-update, it appears to be completely and totally broken?
[0:22] <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/3gMYUbTq
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[0:22] <[Saint]> I would /love/ to know what's going on there...
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[0:34] <[Saint]> It gets weirder:
[0:34] <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/s94AKJxr
[0:34] <[Saint]> passing rpi-update without the BRANCH=next parameter actually pulls in a newer kernel/firmware stack
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[0:57] <diederik> [Saint]: re libpam-systemd, report it at https://github.com/RPi-Distro/repo/issues
[0:58] <[Saint]> Thanks. Incidentally I figured out what was happening with master and next branches of raspberrypi-firmware, but I didn't actually manage to make any sense of it.
[0:58] <diederik> imo rpi-update is a lousy program, which just does things in the hope that it works and doesn't integrate with apt
[0:59] <[Saint]> That's true of the whole "apparently doesn't know or care if /boot is mounted RO" thing, certainly. Still testing that as it seems to be hit or miss.
[0:59] <[Saint]> The screwy versioning blame lies squarely with the raspberrypi-firmware repo itself.
[0:59] <[Saint]> For some absolutely inexplicable reason 'next' is actually tracking behind 'master'.
[1:00] <diederik> I'm not even surprised
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[9:04] <Wristwatch> Evening
[9:05] <Wristwatch> How welcome are noob questions in this chat?
[9:05] <Habbie> just ask, Wristwatch
[9:05] <Wristwatch> I got a Raspberry Pi 1 Model B literally an hour ago.
[9:06] <Wristwatch> my mate gave it to me because he says it has boot issues
[9:06] <Wristwatch> How do i go about setting up, so i can check to see if it actually does have boot issues
[9:08] <Habbie> you need power and SD
[9:08] <Habbie> and display+keyboard and/or network, i'd recommend display+keyboard if you feel nooby
[9:09] <Wristwatch> I have power, a 16GB sd, hooked my spare monitor cable into it, and have a Keyboard/Mouse combo off 1 usb dongle.
[9:09] <Habbie> perfect
[9:09] <Habbie> i have to go , sorry
[9:10] <Wristwatch> I however, dont have an SD reader -_-
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[9:29] <holymoly|2> does raspbian use systemd
[9:30] <holymoly|2> I want to start a program at every rebootboot of my system
[9:31] <holymoly|2> so what about crontab -e
[10:10] <lordievader> holymoly|2: If you use Jessie, yes.
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[11:36] <rawtaz> (23
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[12:57] <AnonRecluse13> hey guys
[12:57] <AnonRecluse13> i can do apt-get install wicd on raspbian right?
[12:57] <AnonRecluse13> i mean apt-get install wicd-gtk & wicd-curses
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[12:58] <AnonRecluse13> i use slackware and i like wicd
[12:58] <AnonRecluse13> better than network-manager
[13:00] <AnonRecluse13> i basically want to troubleshoot the wireless chip
[13:00] <AnonRecluse13> make sure there are no hardware issues and see if the issue lies within the OSMC config
[13:00] <AnonRecluse13> which can be modified.
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[14:56] <Darcidride> Hi, my Raspbian is up ot date (Jessie version), everytimes i try to install a package i have this error "dpkg:../../src/unpack.c:123:deb_reassemble : internal error : unexpected exit status 11 from dpkg-split
[14:56] <Darcidride> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly", i can't install enymore packages... Someone can help me please ?
[14:56] <Darcidride> anymore*
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[19:42] <stemid> RT5370 seems like a massive hassle? anyone got it working on raspbian jessie? I've read countless forum threads and I just can't get mine to join the wifi network. it shows up but it can't associate.
[19:43] <stemid> it's from the pihut, so I thought it would work.
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[23:05] <FireProofing> hey whats up everybody
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[23:05] <FireProofing> is anyone active here ?
[23:06] <FireProofing> I've got a general electronics question regarding fire proofing
[23:06] <FireProofing> or doing my best to prevent an electrical fire
[23:06] <vagrantc> ask away, wait patiently...
[23:06] <FireProofing> i would appreciate it if someone could give me some pointers
[23:06] <FireProofing> oh cool
[23:06] <FireProofing> so i have this DIY LED light
[23:06] <FireProofing> where my friend soldered 100W COBB LED's to a power suppy
[23:06] <FireProofing> and is cooling them with some mini fans
[23:07] <FireProofing> my question is, should i wrap the connections with electrical tape or do anything proactively to prevent a fire?
[23:07] <FireProofing> is the risk of fire even an issue?
[23:07] <FireProofing> for reference i think he has 4 of them wired?
[23:08] <FireProofing> i also have pictures if u want to see it
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