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IRC Log for 2016-08-12

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[0:24] <pi3_> hi, just got pi3, installed lite image from pi foundation and trying to install tor. apt-get installs some old 2.5 version but latest in http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/t/tor/ is proper 0.2.8.6. apt seems to not see it. What Im doing wrong?
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[1:17] <btborg> Hi
[1:17] <btborg> My first Pi arrived in the mail yesterday.
[1:18] <btborg> Along with a RetroPie microSD card preloaded with emulators. I have a blank one too that I'm gonna load with Arch ARM.
[1:18] <btborg> So RetroPie runs Raspbian, right?
[1:19] <btborg> I'm trying to do a software update, and I was in for a rude awakening, because it's been going for literally 7 hours now. There's visible progress, but does it really take this long to extract binaries and install? They appear to have all been downloading, it's the installation and configuration that's the long part.
[1:22] <btborg> Is this simply endemic to minimal RISC architecture?
[1:24] <binaryhermit> It's probably read/write speed limited
[1:25] <btborg> ?
[1:26] <btborg> the microSD card with RetroPie preloaded?
[1:26] <binaryhermit> a faster sd might take less time, I suspect
[1:26] <binaryhermit> yes
[1:26] <btborg> something tells me I bought this card from a skeezy vendor
[1:26] <btborg> There's copyrighted games on it.
[1:27] <btborg> Doom, Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, Super Mario War
[1:27] <btborg> They're open-source games, but the assets are still copyrighted and not redistributable. I checked, they're not using Freedoom, etc.
[1:28] <btborg> wouldn't be surprised if the card is one of those chinese fakes purporting to have 2TB of storage for an unreasonably low price
[1:29] <btborg> the card IIRC is 4GB or 8GB
[1:29] <btborg> the blank card I bought from Sandisk's official eBay page is 32GB
[1:30] <btborg> Funny story, I actually bought some fake chinese SD cards for completely free on Amazon, using coupon code exploits somebody on 4chan found
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[1:31] <btborg> Shipping too was free
[1:31] <btborg> I was in utter disbelief they even went through the effort shipping the damn thing for no profit whatsoever
[1:33] <btborg> I'll never have an answer.
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[1:40] <Confused> camera.capture(output, 'rgb') seems to capture a picture as an array, but I don't see a location or name for the array. Does anyone know where this data goes and how to get to it?
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[1:52] <ghaberek> btborg: what "class" is your SD card? that indicates the speed.
[1:53] <ghaberek> you should use class 10 or higher with your Pi. anything else is way too slow.
[1:57] <btborg> ok, thank you
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[1:59] <btborg> I just checked, the blank microSD I bought is a class 10
[1:59] <btborg> :)
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[2:03] <methuzla> Confused, where is that command coming from?
[2:03] <inteliwasp> i did a dist-uupgrade the other day on mu pi 2 and i got an error with 3 bluetooth packages
[2:04] <Confused> <methuzla> with picamera.PiCamera() as camera: with picamera.array.PiRGBArray(camera) as output: camera.capture(output, 'rgb') etc...
[2:05] <Confused> <methuzla> it is straight off an online tutorial
[2:05] <methuzla> 'output' is the array
[2:08] <methuzla> or, more specifically, 'output' is an instance of picamera.array.PiRGBArray
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[2:12] <methuzla> Confused, https://picamera.readthedocs.io/en/release-1.12/api_array.html#pirgbarray
[2:14] <Confused> <methuzla> I appreciated, but that's where I got the code to begin with. I appologize for looking stupid, but I do not see anything in that code that gives an array
[2:16] <Confused> I'm expecting something like image1[x,y,z], but I guess that's not how python works
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[2:27] <methuzla> Confused, don't know the answer, but it's not just a simple array
[2:30] <Confused> <methuzla> thanks for looking. I'm supprised there is so much info about how to turn camera output into arrays and none on how to access an array. Do you know of something that might be simpler than picamera?
[2:31] <methuzla> for your example: image1[x,y,z], what exactly are you wanting there?
[2:31] <methuzla> x,y = image coords, z=?
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[2:37] <methuzla> well ok, anywho, maybe try output.array[x,y] to get array of RGB values at x,y
[2:38] <methuzla> read about numpy arrays
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[2:47] <Confused> <methuzla> I've been reading everything I can find. My hang up is still that there is no name for the array, no way to address it. Documentation on the picamera module seems very limited.
[2:48] <methuzla> Confused, how familiar are you with python?
[2:49] <stiv> numpy is very handy for messing with numbers and arrays
[2:50] <Confused> <methuzla> not at all. I'm a c++ , linux script sorta guy
[2:51] <methuzla> that's two ends of the spectrum
[2:51] * stiv guesses: camera.capture(output, 'rgb') puts the output in the output variable
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[2:51] <Confused> <methuzla> c++ is no fun at all with images so I'm trying to learn python
[2:51] <methuzla> stiv, that was my first reply above
[2:51] <stiv> methuzla, sorry i missed it
[2:52] <methuzla> Confused, you know C++, do you understand OO?
[2:52] <stiv> methuzla, also, good answer!
[2:55] <Confused> <methuzla> dont' know what that is
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[2:56] <methuzla> Object Orientated (programming)
[2:57] <Confused> <methuzla> ah, I can do classes, though I don't need them for what I usually do.
[2:57] <methuzla> you're dealing with a class with picamera.array.PiRGBArray
[2:57] <methuzla> and the phrase: "The array is accessed via the array attribute."
[2:58] <methuzla> is telling you how to access the array
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[2:59] <methuzla> the 'with' clauses are a python thing called 'context managers'
[3:00] <Confused> <methuzla> I suspected that the array was an object in the class, but I don't see anthing that lists the objects/classes like I would find in C++
[3:00] <Confused> <methuzla> so I have no way to find the syntax I need
[3:01] <methuzla> dot notation, same as c,c++, and java
[3:01] <methuzla> i'm thinking maybe the 'with' clauses are confusing you
[3:02] <methuzla> hang on
[3:03] <stiv> with is just a fancy sort of open() statement
[3:03] <Confused> <methuzla> so I've been randomly guessing, and you know how that goes
[3:05] <stiv> inside the python interpreter, you can do things like type(output) or help(output) to learn interesting things about your objects
[3:05] <methuzla> Confused, http://pastie.org/10934860
[3:05] <methuzla> same thing, without the context managers
[3:07] <Confused> <methuzla> the code in question seems to not create and instance of the class but saves the array anyway. Is this possible in python?
[3:07] <methuzla> it creates an instance
[3:08] <methuzla> but it only lives within the scope of the with clause
[3:08] <Confused> errr... that's not very useful. The pastie timed out before I got to it
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[3:11] <methuzla> maybe this? http://pastebin.com/TQjU2S9m
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[3:19] <Confused> <methuzla> Thanks, that might have worked. It is responding like an array, but of course, I can't see the picture so I'll have to play around with it to know for sure
[3:22] <Confused> "camera" is an instance of picamera, "output" is an instance of RGBArray, "output.array" is an actual name for the array, yes?
[3:26] <stiv> type(output.array)
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[3:34] <mrplastic> hello fine folks, I have the rasp 2 using it for emulation.. mario rpg freezes consistantly, i see no info on this on the web. Does the rp3 report the same issue?
[3:39] <mrplastic> your channel is dead
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[9:15] <fjkeezza> Hey!
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[9:18] <holymoly> Hi I am searching a opportunity to turn my raspberry on and of automatically. Could u suggest a tool
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[10:06] <binaryhermit> oh dear
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[13:12] <WadeWatts> :(
[13:13] <thurstylark> So, I've heard that network boot is a thing now, but I haven't found many details about it. What is it exactly? Is it an implementation of PXE, or something different?
[13:17] <binaryhermit> Implementation of pxe I believe, though sd cardless boot only works on the pi3
[13:17] <binaryhermit> 0,1,2 require a sd card with a special binary on it
[13:18] * binaryhermit can't remember which binary
[13:19] <binaryhermit> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/pi-3-booting-part-ii-ethernet-all-the-awesome/ "Unfortunately, because the code is actually in the boot ROM, this won’t work with Pi 1, Pi B+, Pi 2, and Pi Zero. But as with the MSD instructions, there’s a special mode in which you can copy the ‘next’ firmware bootcode.bin to an SD card on its own, and then it will try and boot from the network."
[13:20] <thurstylark> Ooh, if so, that would be a very interesting avenue to explore for us. We deploy several Pis a year and provisioning is a pita.
[13:21] <binaryhermit> good luck
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> for several Pi's I'd just make SD cards.
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> for 100's I'd buy an SD duplicator.
[13:25] <thurstylark> *shrug* It'd be fun to explore at least. We already have a PXE setup here, so it might not be too hard to implement, but either way.
[13:25] <thurstylark> interesting :)
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> you need to pre-boot it via SD - just once - before it will PXE boot.
[13:26] <gordonDrogon> you need to Pi's bootloader on your boot server, then it's just the usual kernel, etc. stuff.
[13:26] * binaryhermit assumes that isn't per pi?
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[13:33] <gordonDrogon> it will depend on your ability to manage the server I suspect.
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[13:34] <gordonDrogon> each pi would typically have its own root heirarchy, although it may be possible to share some between Pi's with some limitations.
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[14:34] <Chunkyz_> Should be a new raspbian update soon, no?
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[14:34] <Chunkyz_> Last was May
[14:37] <binaryhermit> I'd guess when usb boot and pxe boot go final
[14:37] <Chunkyz_> Nice
[14:37] <binaryhermit> but that's just a guess
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[14:41] <Chunkyz_> Guessing works lol :)
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[14:54] <Gamoder_> Hi everyone, is it possible to calculate the md5sum of only the X first bytes of a file?
[14:56] <thurstylark> dd if=/path/to/file bs=X count=1 | md5sum
[14:57] <thurstylark> it's not too elegant, but it'd work :P
[14:58] <Gamoder_> ok, thanks, I will try to remember that
[14:58] <Gamoder_> and it's not necessary that X fits into the RAM, is it?
[15:00] <thurstylark> not sure. TIAS™
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[15:45] <Basilic> I search how to calibrate a touchscreen
[15:47] <Basilic> It's working but the top and bottom was inverse
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[19:48] <izzyi2d2> hello everyone
[19:49] <izzyi2d2> @methuzla you awake?
[19:49] <izzyi2d2> having some problems with my lcd scrambling
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[19:58] <methuzla> momentarily
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[20:48] <LazyAngel> Hi, 'apt-key list' gives me 'gpg: mpi too large for this implementation...' any idea how to solve it?
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[21:10] <methuzla> izzyi2d2, ?
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[21:16] <LazyAngel> Hi, anyone with a default raspbian repository that can do a 'apt-key list' for me?
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[21:44] <Bashyy> Just wanted to confirm something between the Raspbian Nomral and Lite image. So we can now simply put our wpa_supplican.conf in the boot dir when we create image and it will connect in the configured wifi network. I'm having no issues with this working on the Normal Image however it will not work on the Lite image
[21:44] <Bashyy> is the Lite Image missing this addition ?
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[23:19] <pinsburg> Im trying to mount a network drive via terminal but keep getting the drive doesnt exist error
[23:19] <pinsburg> if i put the address in the browser, it shows up fine
[23:26] <mrkramps> pinsburg, the exact command you are using?
[23:30] <pinsburg> actually, it doesnt work in the browser on the pi, just on windows pc
[23:31] <pinsburg> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.1/usb32gb /home/pi/share mrkramps
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[23:31] <pinsburg> i tried with -o username and password but didnt really do anything
[23:32] <pinsburg> when i setup the drive, i just let anyone use it, didnt set any users
[23:33] <mrkramps> sop you cannot successfully ping this IP from the pi?
[23:33] <pinsburg> network location or just the ip
[23:34] <pinsburg> the ip, yes
[23:34] <mrkramps> and the folder ~/share exists?
[23:34] <pinsburg> nope
[23:34] <pinsburg> unknown host
[23:35] <pinsburg> is this the right way to ping it ? ping 192.168.1.1/usb32gb
[23:35] <mrkramps> just the IP (192.168.1.1)
[23:36] <pinsburg> yeah just the ip works fine
[23:41] <mrkramps> strange, actually it should work that simple
[23:41] <mrkramps> or is there an additional folder like //IP/NAS/USBSTICK?
[23:42] <pinsburg> this is the error im getting btw
[23:42] <pinsburg> mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system
[23:42] <pinsburg> mount error(19): No such device
[23:42] <pinsburg> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
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[23:43] <pinsburg> well when i enter this address (\\192.168.1.1\usb32gb) on my windows browser it loads the directories
[23:44] <mrkramps> pinsburg, is packages cifs-utils installed?
[23:44] <pinsburg> ill check
[23:44] <pinsburg> yes
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[23:47] <mrkramps> pinsburg, please run rpi-update and reboot once than try again
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