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[1:36] * Topic is 'Raspbian -- Debian hard float for the Raspberry Pi: http://www.raspbian.org/ Logs at: http://plugwash.raspbian.org/logs/ looking for mirrors in asia, africa and south america if you are experiancing issues installing raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel DO NOT REBOOT until they are sorted out'
[1:36] * Set by plugwash!~plugwash@2a02:c7f:ba13:f000:219:e3ff:fe39:a22e on Fri Jun 10 09:50:36 UTC 2016
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[1:36] <Nooby_> hi
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[1:37] <plugwash> <Echoz> hm, what's the point of setting up a router as a bridge? how does that work <-- /me saw this line first and was thinking he was getting into a conversation on real routers, not openwrt/tp-link crap
[1:37] <Nooby_> I was connected to my ras pi fine and I reset it, once setting up ssh again I was unable to connect on my mac no matter what I do
[1:37] <Nooby_> I have also tried deleting my known hosts
[1:38] <plugwash> Nooby_, when you say "reset it" do you mean rebooted or reinstalled?
[1:39] <Nooby_> reinstalled the rasbian os as I wanted to start fresh after figuring out how to do what I needed to do
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[1:41] <plugwash> The latest raspberry pi foundation raspbian image comes with ssh disabled by default (something they should have done a long time ago....). You can enable it either through raspi-config or if you don't have a keyboard/monitor/mouse attatched you can create a file called "ssh" on the boot partition of the SD card and the boot scripts will enable it
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[1:42] <Nooby_> I have booted it up through a HDMI display with keyboard and mouse and turned it on, just like I did last time
[1:42] <Nooby_> I cant think of anything I did diffrentley last time
[1:44] <Nooby_> All I am getting is "Connection closed by 192.168.1.21 port 22" @plugwash
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[1:45] <plugwash> launch raspi-config as root and you should find an option to enable ssh
[1:46] <plugwash> as I said in the lastet image ssh is disabled by default
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[1:47] <Nooby_> I got this rasberry pi today so.....I doubt the image has been changed while downloaded on my mac
[1:47] <Nooby_> I have also already launched raspi-confi and gone to advanced options to turn on ssh
[1:47] <wiselydoesit> if you are connected with a keyboard Nooby_ then try the following
[1:48] <wiselydoesit> sudo service ssh status
[1:48] <wiselydoesit> and tell us what you get back.
[1:49] <Nooby_> its active and running
[1:51] <wiselydoesit> and your trying to ssh from the mac right? if you run an ifconfig on the Pi, are your networks up.
[1:51] <th0r> wiselydoesit: is the ip static?
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[1:52] <Nooby_> not really sure how to read the ifconfig
[1:52] <th0r> wiselydoesit: new board, new mac address..maybe new ip address
[1:52] <Nooby_> just a bunch if confusing stuff
[1:52] <Nooby_> but ping google.com, works, im smart enough for that
[1:52] <wiselydoesit> do you have a number next to "inet addr" ?
[1:53] <wiselydoesit> ok so your networks are up.
[1:53] <Nooby_> ya the ip there is 192.168.1.21, thats the one im tyring to connect to
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[1:55] <Nooby_> this issue made me feel like a noob, hence the name
[1:55] <wiselydoesit> so from terminal on your mac if you type "ssh pi@192.168.1.21
[1:55] <wiselydoesit> what do you get, simply a connection refused?
[1:56] <Nooby_> Connection closed by 192.168.1.21 port 22
[1:57] <wiselydoesit> and you have removed known keys on both the pi and your mac right?
[1:57] <Nooby_> not on the pi, how would I go about that?
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[1:59] <wiselydoesit> same way as you would on any Debian system, however unless its informing you the keys are an issue then its unlikely the cause.
[2:00] <Nooby_> uhhhh, not sure I understand entirely what you said, all I know is I deleted the knownhosts file which I issue is what your talking about
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[2:00] <Nooby_> *think you are talking about
[2:01] <wiselydoesit> yeah at this point i would recommend turning it off and back on again.
[2:01] <Nooby_> was thinking to myself and started typing the wrong shit sorry
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[2:21] <mark4> so when my P2 is booted its year is 1969 and chrony refuses to correct it at boot. i cannot see anything in the man page that helps
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[3:14] <Skaag> mark4: you could add `ntpdate pool.ntp.org` in /etc/rc.local or in crontab in a @reboot line but you should figure out why the other stuff fails
[3:15] <Skaag> th0r: you're right, it's dhcpcd that I changed
[3:16] <Skaag> sorry I had to drive home and make dinner for the family
[3:16] <th0r> Skaag: no problem. glad you got it worked out.
[3:16] <Skaag> I'm not yet sure it is fixed, I had to leave before I was able to test
[3:16] <Skaag> but tomorrow morning I'll test and see what's up
[3:17] <Skaag> I believe wpa_supplicant will suffice for all wlan0 related activity, so I can probably uninstall dhcpcd
[3:17] <Skaag> but I'm not 100% sure, we'll see
[3:18] <th0r> Skaag: if it is static ip then yes, you can dump it with no problems. or just disable it with systemctl
[3:18] <Skaag> dynamic on wlan0, and static on eth0
[3:19] <Skaag> my problem is that despite setting a static address in /etc/network/interfaces, when the cable is disconnected and reconnected, the NIC remains without an IP address
[3:19] <Skaag> I don't think it's a dhcp issue because it has no address at all, when it's a dhcp issue you usually see the 169.254.x.x dhcp address
[3:21] <th0r> Skaag: I had that problem yesterday...forgot the auto line before the wlan0 definition...give me a sec I will fetch it for you
[3:21] <Skaag> I did add the `auto eth0` line above the `iface eth0 inet static` line
[3:23] <th0r> Skaag: you need one before the wlan def also. mine says 'allow-hotplug wlan0'
[3:23] <Skaag> I have that, it comes like that by default
[3:24] <th0r> Skaag: the wlan would pick up the static ip with ifup, but not at boot...until I added that
[3:25] <th0r> are you having problems with the static ip or the dhcp ip?
[3:26] <th0r> Skaag: there are three lines you need to add to dhcpcd.conf for the static ip...did you add them?
[3:27] <Skaag> I did this but didn't restart the Pi since, I'll try that tomorrow morning when I'm back at the office
[3:27] <th0r> ok...good luck
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[3:31] <th0r> Skaag: fyti...I have dhcp on my gateway wlan and static on the eth0. In interfacesall I have is iface eth0 inet manual. all the rest is set in dhcpcd.conf
[3:38] <mark4> no i cant add ntpdate because that does not exist on my PI. i have chrony
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[3:39] <mark4> ntpdate proved to be highly unreliable on all 4 of my other systems and chrony proved very reliable... i had multiple issues with ntpdate
[3:40] <mark4> right now the only issue i have with chrony is that it tweaks the time by slowing down or speeding up the system clock to slowly correct an error
[3:40] <mark4> it would take months to fix a 1969 date my system boots up with, it knows this, it refuses to fix it
[3:41] <mark4> which to my mind is utterly stupid
[3:41] <mark4> oh look all 4 of my time soruces say its 2016. lets set the year
[3:41] <mark4> it wont do that
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[3:58] <Skaag> lol
[4:00] <mark4> yup
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[4:04] <plugwash> heh, one option may be to use ntpdate in a script before chrony starts
[4:04] <plugwash> or just use ntpd which has an option for making initial large corrections
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[6:33] <mark4> is it possible to run zoneminder on the raspberry pi instead of motion/uvccapture ?
[6:34] <mark4> zm seems to do the same and a lot more
[6:34] <mark4> but would it be too much of a workload for a poor little raspberry pi?
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[7:32] <TyZefMV> Hey lots of people here, hi ! I am Tyzef from Maldives ! planning to dive into the Raspberry ! thank you for all you do !!!
[7:36] <mark4> falkland islands?
[7:37] <mark4> as in argentina?
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[7:38] <mark4> aww :(
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[8:04] <lordievader> Good morning
[8:05] <Echoz> morning pal
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[8:08] <lordievader> Hey Echoz, how are you?
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[8:15] <Echoz> Pretty decent but a little tired. Nothing a lot of coffee can't fix!
[8:15] <Echoz> How about you?
[8:15] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
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[9:43] <JuPaname> Salut
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[9:44] <JuPaname> HI
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[9:52] <DexterF_> hi all.
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[9:52] <DexterF_> cannot bring up wlan0 on a Pi3 that I want to connect to a WPA-PSK network
[9:53] <DexterF_> dmesg says "wlan0: link not ready".
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[9:54] <DexterF_> /e/n/interfaces has a section for wlan0 to allow hotplug, dhcp, then in 3rd line points over to wpa_supplicant.conf whcih has ESSID name and the PSK.
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[10:30] <DexterF_> "wlan0: link not ready" in dmesg after ifconfig wlan0 up on RPi3 with Rasp/Jessie. wpa_supplicant.conf is set up. /etc/network/interfaces set to wlan0 hotplug+dhcp. help appreciated.
[10:34] <JuPaname[FR]> Help http://pastebin.com/kw1kFFvV
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[10:44] <lordievader> DexterF_: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo iw list'?
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[10:47] <JuPaname[FR]> Hello problem for point access vpn
[10:47] <JuPaname[FR]> http://pastebin.com/kw1kFFvV please help me
[10:51] <lordievader> JuPaname[FR]: There are errors in your dhcp config, use the hint systemd gives to see the full error ;)
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[12:10] <raidensnake> has anyone managed to solve the blank screen boot problem with the raspberry pi 3 using the opengl?
[12:13] <shiftplusone> blank screen boot problem? Don't know what that is, but have you disabled plymouth?
[12:15] <raidensnake> not even sure if it's even running. it won't start. as soon as I enable the new GL nothing comes up even the ssh doesn't boot.
[12:17] <DexterF_> lordievader: http://paste.debian.net/901193
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[12:18] <lordievader> DexterF_: Allright, what is the output of 'sudo iw wlan0 scan'?
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[12:24] <raidensnake> shiftplusone: I checked and it says the service doesn't exist
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[12:30] <DexterF_> lordievader: http://paste.debian.net/901196
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[12:33] <lordievader> DexterF_: What do you use to connect to your AP?
[12:34] <DexterF_> lordievader: the Pi3's onboard wifi interface, but I guess that wasn't your question?
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[12:34] <lordievader> No, what software.
[12:34] <DexterF_> lordievader: uh.. I call ifconfig wlan0 up...
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[12:35] <lordievader> DexterF_: Are you running a desktop on your pi?
[12:36] <DexterF_> lordievader: openbox. no conf gui fanciness here. plan B if all else fails would be wicd-ncurses
[12:37] <lordievader> DexterF_: Yes, I'd do that or NetworkManager or some sort. Configuring wireless through just wpa-supplicant and ifconfig is a pita.
[12:37] <DexterF_> lordievader: unless you happen to know a generic X wifi config thing I can quickyl install/uninstall
[12:37] <lordievader> NetworkManager comes with many frontends, including a ncurses one.
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[12:53] <JuPaname> Bonjour tout le monde
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[12:57] <DexterF_> lordievader: wicd-curses did the trick. welll. not exactly well-scriptable. but works, just like that.
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[13:29] <raidensnake> ugh... nothing
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[13:29] <raidensnake> if I disable dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d
[13:29] <raidensnake> it worksd
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[13:39] <raidensnake> any suggesgtions?
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[16:54] <headlessPiNoKeyb> I've been having trouble with my zero with jessie lite. Everytime I change a setting with raspi-config, upon reboot SSH stops listening. I don't have a wired keyboard to plug into the PI and I was wondering if there was a good way to ensure SSH starts via a script that Raspi-config won't touch
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[16:57] <shiftplusone> raspi-config shouldn't be touching anything you don't tell it to touch. The best thing to do would be to find out exactly what happens
[16:57] <shiftplusone> do you have a serial connection?
[16:57] <shiftplusone> (uart)
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[17:00] <headlessPiNoKeyb> no, I only have it setup via usb g_ether. The other thing I noticed is that jessie full out of the box has the same issue (no ssh connectivity by default, never got to access anything in the os to check anything and had to put lite back on)
[17:01] <shiftplusone> yes, ssh is disabled by default, but once you enable it (either yourself, through raspi-config or by placing a file named 'ssh' on the boot partition) it should be fine.
[17:02] <headlessPiNoKeyb> oh a file huh, thanks. i assume just anything named ssh then
[17:02] <shiftplusone> yup (not extension)
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[17:02] <shiftplusone> *no
[17:04] <shiftplusone> if you're saying raspi-config somehow disables ssh automatically any time you do anything, that... would be interesting.
[17:06] <headlessPiNoKeyb> yeah I have only been able to use it a few times cause I have to wipe the sd card everytime it locks me out. just now I changed boot option to boot to console (option 1), last time I may have ---enabled--- SSH explicitly, and then it locked me out again
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[17:13] <shiftplusone> I would look somewhere else as the cause of the problem
[17:13] <shiftplusone> raspi-config only touches ssh if you tell it to
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[17:14] <headlessPiNoKeyb> yeah, I kinda figured that. without a keyboard I can't help myself much
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[17:15] <headlessPiNoKeyb> on that note, those little micro keyboards like the "rii" wireless with the mouse, shouldn't that work when you plug it in? I have had one for a while I use on my other laptops but raspbian doesn't recognize it on ootup
[17:16] <shiftplusone> Well, not if you're running USB is slave mode.
[17:16] <shiftplusone> serial is really the way to go in these cases
[17:17] <headlessPiNoKeyb> yeah it would be in slave if it's g_ether huh
[17:18] <shiftplusone> you can configure it as a serial device too, but I don't know much about that off the top of my head
[17:18] <headlessPiNoKeyb> g_serial
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[17:26] <emx> I got the following setup: I have a raid1. On that I got LUKS and on that I got LVM. The problem I got with that setup is that at boot time, raid1 is not assembled causing 3 services (md, LUKS and LVM) to wait (fore each other?). What am I doing wrong?
[17:26] <th0r> how did you set up a raid on a pi?
[17:27] <emx> th0r, with mdadm
[17:27] <th0r> didn't think you could do it....how many actual drives are you using?
[17:28] <emx> 2
[17:28] <emx> As soon as you got mdadm you got raid...
[17:28] <th0r> Hmmm...something new to play with ! :)
[17:29] <emx> s/play/experiment/
[17:30] <th0r> same thing...a matter of perspective
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[17:34] <th0r> if you don't mind me asking...I have all my external drives (two pi based servers, seven drives) in fstab with 'noauto' so if one isn't in place it doesn't hold up boot.
[17:34] <th0r> wouldn't that be a good idea for your raid? (I am assuming you aren't booting from the raid)
[17:35] <th0r> I do confess to only a rudimentary knowledge of raid...up to now
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[18:11] <TyZefMV> hi peop !!! I am a debian user ! so we have a desktop at home but I want get independent from family and build my own DIY laptop or a kind of... my question is do I can use RasPi3 as a laptop? I especially need some office software and play with the black box to learn more about Linux !
[18:12] <TyZefMV> some complain can be seen on the web regarding Video/YouTu.....
[18:12] <shiftplusone> video is fine, the problem is playing video through a browser.
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[18:12] <TyZefMV> and also I want to use 10" or 14" screen
[18:13] <gordonDrogon> screen is also fine - if it has HDMI input.
[18:13] <TyZefMV> @shiftplusone oh no problem then cause I use little of data internet, too expensive in my country
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[18:14] <shiftplusone> you can use youtube-dl to download videos and then play them through omxplayer, for example
[18:14] <TyZefMV> yep
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[18:15] <shiftplusone> I haven't seen a pi laptop that's actually good yet.
[18:15] <TyZefMV> can we post any link on this Channel?
[18:17] <TyZefMV> https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/set-up-kits/project-kits/pi-top-a-raspberry-pi-laptop-black
[18:18] <shiftplusone> expensive, bad build quality and they block of 3 of the USB ports
[18:18] <TyZefMV> I look towards this website because it is lead by Raspberry they can ship to Asia
[18:19] <TyZefMV> so for me I want build my laptop in a cigar box !
[18:19] <shiftplusone> sounds like a plan
[18:21] <TyZefMV> Raspberry PI 3 + fan + screen + power bank all into the box ! mouse and keyboard outside through USB ports
[18:22] <TyZefMV> or Keyboard up to the board and the power bank
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[18:23] <TyZefMV> but if the box is too high, it maybe difficult to tape on keyboard
[18:24] <TyZefMV> thank you shiftplusone
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[18:27] <TyZefMV> so the board Raspberry PI 3 can provide power to the screen 10"/14" or it need a separate power supply? hehe
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[18:30] <shiftplusone> separate power supply
[18:31] <shiftplusone> or if you're in the mood to get crafty, you can feed the pi off the power supply for the monitor, but you'll need to split it off, step down the voltage and make sure that you won't negatively affect the display or pi by doing that.
[18:34] <TyZefMV> oh I see,.
[18:34] <TyZefMV> so maybe 2power bank
[18:35] <TyZefMV> I like to do my own DIY power bank
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[18:35] <TyZefMV> actually I want reduce the coast extremely instead of just buying a Laptop ! hehe
[18:36] <TyZefMV> I don't want cross 200$
[18:37] <TyZefMV> but the board Raspberry PI 3 I buy it from UK and not from eBay>China to be sure to get original
[18:38] <TyZefMV> a looooooot of fake here in Asia it's crazy !
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[18:39] <TyZefMV> I want www.modmypi.com are serious in the business !
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[18:40] <TyZefMV> oops not I want, tired, I mean I really hope they are serious
[18:40] <TyZefMV> I have no idea
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[18:42] <TyZefMV> Raspberry they are great people, they give job to the UK people by producing them gem into the UK !!! I am really charmed by that !
[18:43] <shiftplusone> raspberry pi is also made in china
[18:44] <shiftplusone> and japan
[18:44] <shiftplusone> the china ones go through the same quality control
[18:44] <shiftplusone> unless it's one of the red ones.
[18:44] <shiftplusone> and they also give jobs to non UK people
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[18:51] <TyZefMV> oh I see, bit confused now ! lol
[18:52] <TyZefMV> so I have find them dealer in China so it may be again cheaper then, good in it !
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[19:06] <TyZefMV> still I will buy from the UK cause it look same price actually
[19:07] <TyZefMV> anyway I will let you know !
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[19:07] <TyZefMV> hey do you have any forum?
[19:07] <TyZefMV> to share my experience there
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[19:12] <plugwash> are red pis still being made?
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[19:13] <plugwash> When I last checked I couldn't find anything later than the B+ in red
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[19:21] <TyZefMV> I have to go, thank you for this beneficial chat ! see you !
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[19:53] <bennofs2> How does networking on raspbian work? What is the difference between using ip=<bla> in cmdline.txt and configuring a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces?
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[20:22] <NoCode> Hi, do I need to install ARM-based software on the pi or can any type of installation work? I want to install Limnoria(updated supybot) from Git. I just don't know if it'll make my installation explote.
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[20:39] <Skaag> explode how?
[20:39] <Skaag> just `apt-get install build-essential` so you have some build tools, and follow their installation instructions, generally things should work just fine
[20:42] <UskoKyykka> yeah, generally. pulled my hair off installing/configuring/compiling allegro/castle game engine :D
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