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[0:37] <libussa> hi, is it possible to use debian backports on raspbian jessie?
[0:42] <th0r> you might try, but I would expect it to create a dependency nightmare
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[0:49] <libussa> I see
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[1:20] <plugwash> libussa, if you have a pi2 or later you will probablly get away with installing debian backports packages on raspbian.
[1:21] <libussa> I tried, looks like it works
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[6:54] <Shmio> Anyone have a solution for adding this ssh file to /boot/ in Windows? Lots of us are having issues in the comments here. https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/
[6:55] <Shmio> Keep getting a connection refused when trying to connect
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[6:59] <chisight> connection refused typically means tye daemon isn't running on the port you're connecting to.
[6:59] <arunpyasi> hello people, I am a newbie. Just bought a fresh RPI3B 2 days ago, I created an SD card with Jessie image loaded and seems it boots but the issue is I don't own an HDMI cable and I am not able to SSH into it too.
[6:59] <chisight> use serial console to debug it.
[7:00] <chisight> arunpyasi: look up /boot/ssh
[7:01] <arunpyasi> chisight: How do I perform a serial console connection ? I do have a USB serial cable but its not working as expected
[7:02] <arunpyasi> chisight: what you mean by look up /boot/ssh ?
[7:02] <chisight> arunpyasi: google that phrase for your answer.
[7:03] <chisight> serial console was to the other person.
[7:06] <Shmio> so onto that /boo/ssh. on windows it seems it removers the ssh files on boot however my ssh still gives me connection refused
[7:06] <arunpyasi> chisight: I am still not sure what you want me to do
[7:06] <Shmio> arunpyasi https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/ for your ssh issues
[7:07] <Shmio> I can't get it to work in windows myself
[7:07] <Shmio> here is a screenshot of what my directory looks like before I boot. https://puu.sh/sKoFw/771bc47a89.png
[7:08] <chisight> arunpyasi: go to https://google.com . in the big box in the middle of the page, enter /boot/ssh and click the button marked "I'm feeling lucky"
[7:08] <Shmio> it's removes the ssh file like the blog post says but doesn't enable the service
[7:10] <chisight> Shmio: you're going to have to enable serial console and diagnose why.
[7:11] <arunpyasi> chisight: serail console is not enabled by default in PI ?
[7:11] <chisight> Shmio: or hook it to a keyboard and monitor to figure it out.
[7:11] <chisight> arunpyasi: serial console still is not to you.
[7:15] <chisight> arunpyasi: google isnt returning good hits today. use /boot/ssh pixel as your search string.
[7:17] <chisight> hate that the dominant search engine returns all top hits without the requested string. stupid. it works some days.
[7:17] <arunpyasi> chisight: yeah, have done the thing.. Lets hope it works fine
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[7:20] <Shmio> chisight. Thanks. This is a fresh install with a verified good sha-1. i'll just roll back and update after I try this powershell command in this comment chain. I'm currently creating a 'blank' file by creating a ssh.txt file then deleting the extension and confirming the warning to produce the screenshot above. the fact it removes the ssh file like in the blog post says has me for a loop.
[7:20] <arunpyasi> thanks chisight
[7:20] <Shmio> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/#comment-1265993
[7:20] <arunpyasi> it really worked :D
[7:21] <arunpyasi> Shmio: worked for me
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[7:22] <chisight> glad you have it solved arunpyasi
[7:22] <arunpyasi> thanks for your help chisight :)
[7:22] <arunpyasi> I am very happy today :D
[7:22] <arunpyasi> started my first RPI3 :D
[7:24] <chisight> Shmio: the content of the file won't matter, but yeah the extension will. are you using windows, linux or something else to write this file?
[7:24] <arunpyasi> chisight: make sure the format is not in .txt !!
[7:24] <arunpyasi> windows sucks on that things :P
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[7:24] <arunpyasi> that was for Shmio
[7:25] <Shmio> chisight windows 10. this is a completely blank file. no .txt extension. https://puu.sh/sKoFw/771bc47a89.png
[7:25] <arunpyasi> seeing screenshot looks fine
[7:25] <arunpyasi> umm
[7:25] <chisight> arunpyasi: the content won't make a difference.
[7:25] <arunpyasi> chisight: yes
[7:25] <Shmio> let me reformat and try again...
[7:25] <arunpyasi> Shmio: make sure the IP is correct
[7:26] <chisight> Shmio: are you ejecting the device after writing the file ? not doing that would erase the file too.
[7:26] <arunpyasi> Shmio: and make sure the image's sha1sum is fine
[7:26] <Shmio> i'm ejecting the device. ip is correct as i'm getting a connection refused by putty. sha1 checks out fine on the zip
[7:27] <arunpyasi> Shmio: there is a command sync in linux which make sure it writes the file. I had similar issue just before using sync command. Find an alternative to sync comamnd in windwos
[7:27] <arunpyasi> Shmio: are you using the 4GB image file ?
[7:27] <arunpyasi> or lite ?
[7:27] <chisight> arunpyasi: windows does the sync when you eject.
[7:27] <Shmio> lite
[7:27] <arunpyasi> chisight: ohh
[7:27] <arunpyasi> Shmio: try it works in 4GB
[7:27] <arunpyasi> I am using 4GB now and is working fine
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[7:28] <Shmio> ok let me try lite again one more time then i'll try stock
[7:29] <chisight> this ssh security fix came with pixel. i would expect they would port to lite, but i don't know that they did.
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[7:31] <chisight> Shmio: stupid question... can you ping the pi?
[7:31] <Shmio> chisight it for sure isn't enabled on boot as the 2016-09-23-raspbian-jessie-lite version works like a charm on boot like it has for years. i'll give it a try on boot.
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[7:33] <chisight> Shmio: stupid question... can you ping the pi?
[7:35] <newpi> trying to build a pi cluster and im having a hard time finding a usb hub that will power 4 or more Raspberry Pi 3's. How can i do this? (or how many watts/amps/volts should the hub have?)
[7:35] <Shmio> pings like a charm. ethernet. <1ms
[7:36] <newpi> ive asked in various places without a satisfactory response and this is one of the few pi based irc's so i hope you dont mind me asking here
[7:36] <Shmio> just got another connection refused. going to verify the ssh file was removed then try the full version
[7:37] <Shmio> ssh file is gone. full version time.
[7:39] <chisight> Shmio: unless this is a pi3, serial console isn't hard. you can actually debug the issue.
[7:40] <chisight> serial and the pi3 don't get along as easily.
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[7:42] <Shmio> pi3. sorry.
[7:43] <chisight> ahh. yeah, try the full image then.
[7:43] <Shmio> almost done writing it
[7:43] <newpi> is it right to assume that since the pi3 requires 5V/2.5A that a powered usb hub with 50W/10A would be enough to power four of them?
[7:44] <Shmio> does it really need 2.5A? wow. I thought it was 1.
[7:44] <newpi> only the pi3, the others are much lower
[7:45] <newpi> cany anyone confirm that math? trying to verify before purchasing parts for this cluster
[7:45] <newpi> can*
[7:45] <chisight> no newpi, the wires/traces in any hub I've opened could never handle 10a.
[7:46] <newpi> chisight: thank you. i am looking at something like this as a solution: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OJ79UK6/ref=nav_timeline_asin?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
[7:46] <newpi> its a usb charger hub
[7:46] <Shmio> he's talking a psu for his cluster. not driving a load with that much draw
[7:46] <newpi> ^
[7:46] <arunpyasi> shiftplusone: so fast your is writing
[7:46] <arunpyasi> you have USB 3.0 for your SD card writer ?
[7:47] <arunpyasi> It took me 25 minutes to write to the SD card
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[7:49] <Shmio> wow. i have a shit usb 2.0 one. still writes at around 7-10 MB/s
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[7:49] <Shmio> <10 mins
[7:50] <Shmio> yes newpi i'd think would drive 4 rpi3.
[7:50] <Shmio> it*
[7:50] <chisight> newpi: why not 4 independent power supplies? your math is right but i don't trust the specs on generic parts like that.
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[7:51] <newpi> chisight: practicality
[7:51] <newpi> chisight: saving space, connections, etc.
[7:51] <Shmio> ^ can agree with that. or go all ninja and use a computer psu off a molex connector or something
[7:51] <newpi> Shmio: im considering that as well but this is my first cluster so i want some of the mess lol
[7:52] <chisight> newpi: it's your money. i doubt it will work, but the specs say it's plenty.
[7:52] <newpi> im aiming at 16 or more pis, if each had it's on ac adapter, that's 16 plugs
[7:53] <newpi> trying to break it doen into a 4 node or 8 node then adding 4-8 nodes later
[7:53] <chisight> newpi: at 16, i'd get a meanwell brand power supply and wire up cables. ninja it as Shmio
[7:53] <chisight> said
[7:54] <newpi> what do you mean by "go all ninja" Shmio?
[7:55] <Shmio> chisight: connection refused on the full version as well. pings just fine.
[7:55] <Shmio> newpi hacking all them wires and such i guess
[7:55] <Shmio> idk
[7:55] <chisight> meanwell is actually able to deliver 90% of rated all day long and they only cost double what a china supply would.
[7:56] <newpi> meanwell doesnt seem very newbie friendly. not even sure what i would need there
[7:56] <chisight> just got a china supply last week, it was smoking at 4% of rated power.
[7:57] <chisight> newpi: amps and volts. not much more to know.
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[7:59] <chisight> if you have no usb devices on these pi, a 32A 5v supply should work fine. add more if there are usb loads.
[7:59] <newpi> 5V 100W 20A, but then comes connecting them
[7:59] <newpi> that's for 8 pi's
[7:59] <chisight> 20A won't handle 16 pi3.
[8:00] <newpi> it should handle 8
[8:00] <chisight> ok, plenty.
[8:00] <newpi> for one stack
[8:00] <chisight> assuming no usb devices being used.
[8:00] <newpi> how do i connect them to the pis? gpio?
[8:00] <newpi> no usbs will be used at all
[8:00] <chisight> no, usb cables.
[8:01] <newpi> searching for one now with usb connections
[8:01] <chisight> either add sockets to the meanwell, or cut the end off and solder them into bundles and screw to the meanwell terminals.
[8:01] <newpi> am i just missing something simple? not seeing it on meanwell.com
[8:02] <newpi> chisight: you just blew my mind. pretty new to diy psus
[8:02] <chisight> meanwell wont have usb connectors, you have to add them or splice cables.
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[8:03] <newpi> thanks for the info, will keep that as an option
[8:03] <chisight> personally, I'd go with 8 independent supplies and outlet strips, but that's me.
[8:04] <newpi> why is that?
[8:04] <newpi> wouldn't that increase temps/usage of space/emi?
[8:04] <chisight> simple and independent. modular.
[8:05] <newpi> it would be simple but it would end up costing more
[8:05] <newpi> and would be a truly cluttered cluster :)
[8:06] <arunpyasi> Shmio: did it work ?
[8:06] <chisight> i build my own supplies, they're cheap. about $3 each. 12v 1.2A wall wart and dc-dc buck converter.
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[8:08] <chisight> building my own also lets me keep the high current 5v cable short. the low current 12v cable has the length.
[8:09] <newpi> chisight: this is the start to me learning how to do that. building a cluster, then 3d printer, then all the electrical tools i can :)
[8:09] <Shmio> arunpyasi no i didn't on the full version. didn't remove the ssh file either this time. over it. i run google two factor on my ssh exposed to the outside world. hardly worried about it. think it reverts after an apt-get upgrade though.
[8:10] <chisight> ahh. my current project is a nice bench supply. lots of options.
[8:10] <newpi> chisight: got any good references for diy electrical work? will find some later but since you are here ;)
[8:12] <chisight> newpi: my long deceased father. he was designing switching supplies befor ibm put one in the original pc and introduced switchers to most people.
[8:13] <chisight> i have the schematic of his last linear supply still. somehow the switcher designs didn't survive.
[8:13] <newpi> chisight: that's pretty incredible
[8:14] <newpi> my long deceased father tried to teach me about this stuff but i only caught the computer related information
[8:15] <newpi> lost all of his equipment too :(
[8:15] <chisight> my parts bin has 60 watt linear regulators that are spares for that supply.
[8:16] <chisight> the supply is gone too. stepmom purged it a couple years before he died.
[8:17] <chisight> funny thing is mom taught me everything i know about house wiring. dad wouldn't because it was dangerous.
[8:17] <newpi> stepaunt purged his whole garage after he passed
[8:17] <chisight> :-( sad.
[8:18] <newpi> i need to learn more about house wiring... not to worried about dying of electricity :P
[8:18] <chisight> i have a lot of components but only a few boards and no complete systems from him.
[8:20] <chisight> ac isn't bad. i won't touch a live main panel, but change live outlets and fixtures when needed.
[8:20] <chisight> obviously it's better to turn breakers off though.
[8:20] <newpi> my goal is to avoid anything live for the rest of my life...but idk if that's feasible
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[8:21] <chisight> an outlet isn't too bad unless you're wet.
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[8:21] <chisight> dry enough skin and 110v barely bites.
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[8:22] <newpi> thats good to know. i ignorantly assumed death from a live outlet
[8:22] <chisight> the glowing hot copper is more trouble, from when you let wires touch.
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[8:25] <chisight> breakers are slow compared to fuses. two wires can spray molten metal before the breaker can trip.
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[8:35] <newpi> chisight: holy cow...
[8:36] <newpi> did you learn all this stuff throughout life or do you have any electrician certs?
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[8:37] <chisight> mom taught me most of it. seeing metal spray out was dad though. mom never made mistakes.
[8:38] <chisight> i don't have a license.
[8:41] <newpi> thats awesome. hoping to learn most of it in the next couple years
[8:41] <newpi> and didnt you know? women never make mistakes
[8:41] <newpi> :P
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[8:43] <chisight> in this case, they (she) didn't. not with electricity at least. she's changing an outlet next week and i have no worries even though she's almost 75 now.
[8:45] <newpi> chisight: that's amazing. mine can barely open containers
[8:45] <newpi> if i saw her do that, i would be convinced of an alien or ai invasion
[8:46] <chisight> containers can be hard. especially pill bottles.
[8:46] <chisight> i won't see it, she's 1000 miles away. if she were close, I'd do it.
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[8:58] <newpi> chisight: good kid. id do all of their electrical work if they didnt insist on a professional
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[9:00] <chisight> the 3000 square foot house we wired together 35 years ago is still standing, no need for a professional. ;-)
[9:01] <arunpyasi> ok, now I a having issue with GUIs in Pi, they are stuck after getting the window frame. :P upgrading Pi, lets hope..
[9:01] <newpi> chisight: nicely done ;-).
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[9:05] <newpi> have a good one chisight, thanks for your help and im out for the night
[9:06] <chisight> you too newpi.
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[9:07] <arunpyasi> ok, was a resolution and color depth issue :D
[9:07] <arunpyasi> fixed :D
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[9:28] <arunpyasi> hehe, played song via my RPI3 !! :D
[9:28] * arunpyasi is feeling cool :D
[9:28] <SadesShadow> \o/
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[10:24] <arunpyasi> ok, now I connected to a BT speaker :D
[10:24] <arunpyasi> RPI3 rocks !
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[10:28] <TheOpeningBars> :D
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[11:09] <th0r> if you haven't installed the latest updates to jessie you might want to considering avoiding them.
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[11:10] <th0r> does anyone have info on rolling back the "upgrade" to X that just came out?
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[11:19] <JZA> hi does raspbian has systemd?
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[11:25] <th0r> unfortunately, yes
[11:33] <arunpyasi> th0r: why is it unfortuantely !! Its fortuantely :D
[11:33] <arunpyasi> why does people hate systemd !!! BTW !
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[11:35] <th0r> I have been running a pi3 desktop for three years and over the last year or so raspbian has continued to get worse.
[11:36] <th0r> yesterday they sent out an "upgrade" to X. I am in the process of reinstalling an old version of raspbian, the upgrade killed all the things I worked so hard to set up.
[11:37] <th0r> ever since the introduction of systemd things have been in a nosedive
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[11:40] <arunpyasi> th0r: ohh, then its fault on the Pi site, not the systemd
[11:41] <arunpyasi> Systemd is awesome overall
[11:42] <th0r> if you ask me, systemd is a solution without a problem
[11:43] <th0r> course, like everything in tech....the next software upgrade will fix everything
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[11:48] <arunpyasi> th0r: hmmm
[11:48] <arunpyasi> agree on that !
[11:50] <th0r> If I had wanted the latest I would use arch. I moved to Debian so things would just keep working. it is frustrating to have to keep fixing the "fixes"
[11:57] <arunpyasi> th0r: yes
[11:58] <arunpyasi> professionally, its a hectic
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[12:01] <th0r> I would use other terms <smile>. I am still fighting the same issues I had with a 386 machine. We have taken along road to nowhere in 30 years
[12:02] <th0r> but then again, Igave up coding and moved to making things work. My network is all android and raspbian, and I do more with it then most programmers I know
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[12:08] <tuvok> Good Morning
[12:09] <tuvok> is this possible that i can run under raspbian with a rpi3 a HDMI TV/Monitor and a 3,5" Display on GPIO at the same time?
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[12:48] <Phil_G> Hi everyone! I've got a question: When I set up a Raspberry Pi for my network with WiFi credentials, configure users and SSH keys etc., can I then just clone the image and use it on other Raspberry Pis on the same network? I always thought operating systems need to be deprovisioned before being cloned, but I can't find useful info on that regarding Raspbian. Every search result leads to tutorials for Azure, where deprovisioning seems to be
[12:48] <Phil_G> necessary. Is that not the case in a home network?
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[13:14] <at0m> Phil_G: you can clone bit-by-bit, say, just move over the SD card to another rpi, or dd to another card. when dd'ing, you'll need to change the /etc/network/interfaces if an interface is set to static IP, and change the ssh host keys
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[13:16] <at0m> also, you cannot migrate rpi2 images to rpi1, they're a different ARM version. for now rpi3 uses same kernel as rpi2, so that should work. moving disk to a higher number version will work, though some libraries may not be optimized
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[13:20] <Phil_G> at0m: Thanks! I'm using dynamic IP addresses, so that's not an issue, but good to know for the future. Didn't know about the Raspberry Pi version image compatibility - very good to know! And thanks for pointing to SSH host keys, will read more about it, found some info on DigitalOcean
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[13:22] <at0m> Phil_G: yea some datacenters ran into problems with ssh host keys when cloning images - cloning the keys with their images. ew.
[13:23] <at0m> at home this doesn't have to be such a problem like for VPS's though.
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[13:25] <at0m> ,v ansible
[13:25] <judd> Package: ansible on armhf -- wheezy-backports: 1.7.2+dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.7.2+dfsg-2; jessie-backports: 2.1.1.0-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.1.1.0-1; sid: 2.2.0.0-1; stretch: 2.2.0.0-1
[13:25] <at0m> when maintaining a bunch of similar OS's on different machines, maybe check on mssh (single input to multiple ssh sessions, say for apt upgrade and such) and ansible
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[13:31] <Phil_G> Yes, great opportunity to check out Ansible. Compared it to Puppet and Chef and it seems to have the least steep learning curve of all configuration management tools
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[13:35] <at0m> puppet seems to be best integrated with fedora/redhat
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[14:01] <AquaL1te> can the people who maintain the package raspi-config please get their sh#t together? this package is being treated as an experimental project, way too many errors are being made with this stuff. please apply some QA on your own packages...
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[14:11] <gordonDrogon> AquaL1te, best place to whinge is on the rasperrypi.org forums...
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[14:51] <AquaL1te> @gordonDrogon: best place is probably the bugreports, but i've given that up. it's like this distro is doomed. can't wait for fedora 25 to introduce their new rpi project. until then i'll just sit back and watch this crazy shit happening here
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[15:12] <Phil_G> at0m: Regarding the ARM / kernel version of different Pis: Are Pi 2/3 the same as the Pi Zero?
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[15:39] <at0m> Phil_G: their kernels currently are, as far as i know. though the rpi2 is arm7 (debian's armhf) 32bits quad, rpi3 is arm8 quad 64bit, rpi0 is single core. check the downloadable images to be sure.
[15:40] <at0m> funny https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/pi-zero/ just says "single core 1GHz cpu", no further specs.
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[15:42] <at0m> tbh, i only have rpi1 and 2's here.
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[15:46] <Phil_G> at0m: Ok thanks, I'll just try it out then
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[15:56] <mete> rpi zero says: model name : ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l)
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[16:06] <mete> Phil_G: as you can use raspbian for all the PIs, I think kernel is always the same
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[16:20] <mete> I just updated my rpi3 and my rpi zero and I got the following kernels: rpi3: 4.4.37-v7+ rpi zero: 4.4.37+
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[16:29] <Phil_G> mete: So rpi3 is with "-v7", rpi zero without, making them not the same kernel, making the images incompatible?
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[16:38] <mete> Phil_G: I flashed and used the image first on the rpi zero and then cloned to another SD card and used it with the same kernel in the rpi 3....
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[16:39] <mete> now I updated and got the other kernel ;)
[16:41] <Phil_G> mete: Ah okay, sounds great. So "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" on the machine before cloning the image and then the same on all machines that I launched with that image should lead to working systems across rpi 2 + 3 + Zero. Awesome! Thanks!
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[16:43] <mete> Phil_G: it only change the kernel when you use rpi-update
[16:43] <mete> apt-get upgrade will only install a newer version, but not another kernel
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[16:44] <mete> I don't know if the rpi 3 kernel is compatible with the rpi zero... but as the downloadable raspbian image works on all rpi's... I think it should work
[16:45] <Phil_G> mete: Makes sense
[16:46] <mete> hm, the rpi3 is 64bit... could be that because of that this image won't then work on the other rpi's...
[16:47] <mete> but older ones (which use a 32bit kernel) will work also on 64bit... it could be that the raspbian image has only 32bit kernel included and is then updated to a 64bit with rpi-update.... but I never checked that so I'm only guessing
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[16:55] <NoCode> Wow, odd. Even without verifying(typing out password) I can "sudo su" to my root user. :|
[16:55] <humbag> it is a bit isn't it
[16:56] <humbag> i guess you can change that behaviour with visudo
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[16:57] <NoCode> Yeah, I think I'll just create a new user at this point and delete pi as user.
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[16:59] <NoCode> Oh crap. I almost messed up. I can't ssh in with root. Deleting pi would mess it all up until I had access to the machine. :D
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[17:02] <humbag> heheh
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[17:06] <mete> yeah, you have to enable root ssh access ;)
[17:08] <humbag> n
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[19:14] <dougl> anyone having issues with thier raspbian pi s?
[19:15] <th0r> after the X upgrade...yes
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[19:16] <dougl> th0r, apt-get update = seg fault?
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[19:16] <dougl> brb
[19:18] <th0r> dougl: no....after the update X went squirrely. If I hadn't had x11vnc running at boot I don't know if I would ever have gotten it fixed. After four or five reboots it seems to have settled down.
[19:22] <dougl> I have seg faults during update and syntax errors running rasp-config... Looks like the pi foundation i copying the Microsoft model things are just getting worse with every improvement.
[19:23] <dougl> anyone experiencing these symptoms besides me?
[19:23] <dougl> i = is
[19:25] <th0r> dougl: i would agree that things are on a slide. after this week's upgrade I have stopped upgrading. things are working and I want them to keep working
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[19:42] <dougl> did I miss anything had to reboot
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[19:47] <th0r> dougl: do you get the seg fault if you try 'apt update'?
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[20:31] <SanchoPensa> th0r: yo, bro!
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[20:32] <th0r> hey.
[20:32] <SanchoPensa> th0r: this is really phunny now: i was going to ask about teh raspberry next, as i am considering to buy one as home server, now you mention raspbian.
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[20:34] <th0r> I have five. two are desktops...one is taped to the back of the tv and is right now playing a video from one of the two servers. the fifth is my firewall/gateway
[20:34] <SanchoPensa> nice!
[20:34] <SanchoPensa> a decentral strategy, so to speak
[20:35] <SanchoPensa> do you have some NX server on them, or how do you administrate them?
[20:35] <th0r> i have a wireless mouse and keyboard plugged in to the desktop, but usually access both desktops via vnc from a 10" tablet
[20:36] <SanchoPensa> vnc?!? i see
[20:36] <SanchoPensa> and what firewall do you operate on the router, simply iptables?
[20:36] <th0r> I use ssh to handle the servers, x11vnc on the desktops. I tried NX but it cranked the cpu up to 100%....quad cores!
[20:37] <SanchoPensa> woha!
[20:37] <SanchoPensa> thats new!
[20:37] <th0r> I use iptables, but I also have a hosts file that is about 6MB...traps ad servers and such at the source :)
[20:37] <SanchoPensa> so they are capable of producing a decent video signal?
[20:38] <SanchoPensa> or have you upgradedanything?
[20:38] <SanchoPensa> i see
[20:38] <SanchoPensa> things accumulate over time, eh? :D
[20:38] <SanchoPensa> 6mb, holy crap :D
[20:38] <SanchoPensa> that woulkd be about 6000 lines?
[20:39] <th0r> They are all pi boards...no special audio or video. I use omxplayer, it is a cli program that works terrific on the pi even full screen.
[20:39] <SanchoPensa> geeez...
[20:39] <SanchoPensa> it's a whole new universe...
[20:39] <th0r> I would have preferred vlc, but it just requires a bit too much from the cpu
[20:40] <SanchoPensa> is yours the laters version?
[20:40] <SanchoPensa> or are they?
[20:41] <th0r> the desktops and the media server are pi3, the storage server and the gateway are pi2. I have a piB+ sitting in the wings looking for a purpose
[20:41] <SanchoPensa> i see.
[20:41] <SanchoPensa> can they handle a web cam?
[20:41] <th0r> hang on a sec
[20:42] <SanchoPensa> sure
[20:44] <th0r> lets try this....https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw3H7FgNpAoyaVpTbnVwSVdDcUE/view?usp=drivesdk
[20:45] <th0r> let me know if that link works...a screenshot of the desktop
[20:47] <th0r> don't know how the pi would do with a webcam as I don't have one. I knoelw there is a camera board addon for the pi, several in fact
[20:49] <th0r> excuse the resolution on that pngg...android looks much better in person than its screenshots
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[20:58] <th0r> SanchoPensa: did that link work?
[20:59] <SanchoPensa> oh, sry, didnt realize ure back, sec pls
[21:00] <SanchoPensa> th0r: yes that look pretty nice!
[21:01] <th0r> all the gkrellm stacks are running on pi's. makes for a great way to make sure everything is healthy
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[21:04] <SanchoPensa> hmmm
[21:05] <SanchoPensa> i am not familiar with all of this, its a totally new world for me
[21:05] <SanchoPensa> i will definitela look into it
[21:05] <SanchoPensa> thnks bro, for the tour! :)
[21:06] <th0r> I have used gkrellm for decades. it is a great system monitor stack and easy on resources.
[21:07] <SanchoPensa> yes, it looks really great!
[21:08] <SanchoPensa> ok, th0r i got to go and practice some guitar now, but i will be arround!
[21:08] <SanchoPensa> thanks once more, bro!
[21:08] <th0r> that is xfce by the way. I have three panels but they auto hide at the top. the resolution is 1280x800, but I am using large fonts since the tv is over 2m away and these are old eyes
[21:09] <SanchoPensa> i see
[21:09] <SanchoPensa> super large fonts tehn *g*
[21:10] <SanchoPensa> ok, th0r, gotta run, was nice meeting you!
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[21:10] <th0r> ok...good luck
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[21:10] <SanchoPensa> and you! :9
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[21:13] <eumel> hey guys
[21:14] <eumel> my router broke down a few moments ago, i've noticed that my raspberry pi 3 was not connecting ethernet when the link was coming back up again
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[21:15] <dougl> bummer
[21:15] <eumel> i've got allow-hotplug and auto set for eth0, found some articles on google pointing to ifplugd, is there another option for me?
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[21:36] <snowtires> howdy folks. looking for some tips on securing remote SSH access on the pi. what do you guys recommend?
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[21:37] <th0r> snowtires: move it to a non-standard port and use port knocking
[21:38] <th0r> snowtires: and us keys instead of password login
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[21:38] <th0r> use
[21:39] <snowtires> ok, i will try that. thanks!
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[21:41] <bennii> hi
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[21:42] <bennii> i have configured rsyslogd to receive syslog message from remote hosts. now i wonder why the messages from the remote hosts have different date format in log message.
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[22:11] <redrabbit> hi, how can i enable predictable interface naming, so wlan0 and wlan1 don't get mixed up on reboot ?
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[22:47] <laurittr> redrabbit: Probably you have to write a udev rule
[22:47] <laurittr> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration#Device_names
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[22:49] <redrabbit> thanks
[22:49] <laurittr> p
[22:49] <laurittr> np*
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[22:54] <frikinz> So I just did a mistake and rm -rf /var ... is there a default (right after installation) /var/lib/dpkg/status available somewhere?
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[22:55] <laurittr> frikinz: Running raspian?
[22:55] <frikinz> laurittr: yes
[22:56] <frikinz> I'd be interested by /var/lib/dpkg/available also ...
[22:56] <frikinz> not sure why apt update doesn't recreate it
[22:56] <laurittr> I did a google search. Seems to be a lot of people havving done the same thing
[22:56] <stiv> we need a fixme --doh /var
[22:57] <frikinz> cause then I have a script to recreate status from /usr/share/doc subdirs
[22:57] <frikinz> Hacky but worth a try
[22:57] <frikinz> can someone upload his /var/lib/dpkg/available file?
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[22:58] <laurittr> you could just download the image and extract it
[22:58] <humbag> wouldn't that be different ?
[23:01] <frikinz> downloading...
[23:02] <frikinz> humbag: available should be the same. it can be recreated by dselect update but my system doesn't even see dpkg installed..
[23:03] <laurittr> If you havent done very much to your installation, i would just copy all my config files and start from scratch on a new installation
[23:03] <frikinz> oh available is typically empty. I need to chroot I think :(
[23:04] <humbag> maybe take the card out and use photorec
[23:04] <frikinz> laurittr: the machine is a tor node, munin, smtp, imap, ...
[23:05] <frikinz> humbag: yes I could do that
[23:05] <laurittr> I have tried to help some other people with recreating deleted system folders, and it usually ends up in minor bugs that i cant fix
[23:05] <laurittr> photorec might work
[23:06] <humbag> let us know when its fixed so we can laugh
[23:06] <frikinz> from what I see, I only need this damn status file and reinstall all package (to get other /var/*)
[23:07] <frikinz> lol
[23:07] <laurittr> ;)
[23:08] <laurittr> btw, i would make a backup of the sdcard, now, before you do anything with it, just in case it gets even worse
[23:10] <redrabbit> laurittr: it worked
[23:11] <laurittr> nais
[23:11] <laurittr> what worked?
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[23:13] <redrabbit> the udev rule
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[23:13] <redrabbit> but now i enabled macchanger automatic setting and its broken again ^^^'
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[23:58] <frikinz> So I'm back in the game. It reinstalled all my packages from /usr/share/doc :) Have to merge back what was overwritten in /etc
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