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[0:06] <BasisBit> wlan0 interface not loading. lsmod and modprobe of the brcmfmac look good. any idea where to check next?
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[2:27] <laveonix> Hello?
[2:28] <laveonix> is this channel about raspberry pi?
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[3:32] <stiv> more about the rasbian operating system
[3:32] <stiv> there is also a #raspberrypi
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[9:09] <soehnke1> hi. i have some trouble with the UART terminal. I see the login terminal but i can not write anything
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[12:07] <JuPaname[FR]> bonjour
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[13:47] <JuPaname> hello
[13:47] <JuPaname> please help me
[13:47] <JuPaname> No subnet declaration for wlan1 (no IPv4 addresses).
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[13:49] <lordievader> JuPaname: How did you configure your interface?
[13:51] <JuPaname> after reboot is ok no error
[13:51] <JuPaname> o_O$
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[13:54] <unitypunk> "Ping: icmp open socket: operation not permitted"
[13:54] <unitypunk> Happens when I try to ping www.Google.com
[13:54] <unitypunk> Cqn anyone help me understand what's happening?
[13:55] <shiftplusone> unitypunk: sudo setcap cap_net_raw+ep /bin/ping
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[13:55] <unitypunk> That will fix? What happened?
[13:55] <unitypunk> I was just streaming to the tv when the network died
[13:56] <shiftplusone> it might fix it... depending on what the problem it.
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[13:56] <unitypunk> Hmm sec.
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[13:58] <unitypunk> Shift seemed to work... What was going on, what did I just do?
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[13:59] <unitypunk> I tried rebooting and bringing wlan down and up, nothing changed been like this for a few hours haha
[14:00] <shiftplusone> ping requires some permissions which a regular user doesn't have
[14:00] <shiftplusone> that command allows it to send raw net packets (I am guessing by the capability name).
[14:00] <unitypunk> Ping was just my way of checking the wan connection. I couldn't do anything
[14:01] <shiftplusone> ah, no idea then
[14:01] <shiftplusone> sounds like you had multiple issues
[14:01] <unitypunk> Strqnge, so that should have only effected ping as a normal user?
[14:01] <unitypunk> Not any other network bs
[14:01] <unitypunk> Affected?
[14:02] <shiftplusone> yup
[14:02] <unitypunk> Super strange.
[14:02] <unitypunk> Will I ever need to do that again? (Like after reboot)
[14:04] <shiftplusone> no
[14:05] <shiftplusone> It used to happen after a NOOBS install, but has been fixed in NOOBS itself and in the latest Raspbian release for NOOBS.
[14:05] <shiftplusone> So it just shouldn't happen anymore.
[14:05] <shiftplusone> unless there's something else going wrong
[14:07] <unitypunk> I know the network seems to drop after an undetermined amount of time
[14:07] <unitypunk> So something is funky
[14:08] <shiftplusone> Do you have logs which demonstrate the problem?
[14:08] <shiftplusone> wifi or ethernet?
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[14:09] <unitypunk> Wi-Fi, and no, when it happens I lose all communication with the pi
[14:09] <unitypunk> Because its headless once the network goes down o just unplug it
[14:10] <unitypunk> Using hostapd and dhcpd to share wlan0 to wlan1
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[14:12] <shiftplusone> you could enable persistent journald logs to make sure that you can see what happened before restarting
[14:12] <unitypunk> Wait, as long as the event happens before I pull the plug, it should output to syslog right?
[14:13] <unitypunk> My syslog is definitely persistent, its got stuff from a few days back at least
[14:13] <shiftplusone> I guess
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[14:18] <unitypunk> Hey, can you ssh over Bluetooth
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[14:20] <shiftplusone> yeah, if you tether to it using bluetooth. Might be a bit fiddly to set up, but I've had it working before.
[14:21] <unitypunk> Oh with bt pan network huh. Not like I'm thinking with a controller/host huh
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[14:57] <DexterF> hi
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[15:05] <lordievader> o/
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[16:54] <webiken> anyone know if how I can get a pre-assembled Pi board with a DC Motor HAT?
[16:55] <webiken> I once soldered an AdaFruit Arduino Motor Shield but I didn't do a good job and it was PITA
[16:56] <GekkePrutser> Learn to solder :)
[16:56] <GekkePrutser> Sorry ;)
[16:57] <GekkePrutser> But there's some vendors that sell assembled hats
[16:57] <GekkePrutser> I know of this one in the UK: https://www.abelectronics.co.uk/
[16:57] <GekkePrutser> Don't think they do motor ones though
[16:57] <GekkePrutser> But servos yes
[16:58] <webiken> Sounds like an excuse but no time to learn soldering .. work plus online course in Self Driving-Car plus new baby
[16:59] <GekkePrutser> Yeah I understand, you can't learn everything either.
[16:59] <GekkePrutser> I was already a geek before computers were in the home so at that time soldering was one of the geeky things we had :)
[16:59] <webiken> I have a robot chasse that has two DC motors. If I went the servo route, can I easily get a chasse as well?
[17:00] <webiken> My goals is to use the image processing techniques I'm learning in something tangible like a small robot
[17:01] <GekkePrutser> Ah it's for a robot? servos won't work for drive motors
[17:01] <GekkePrutser> Servos don't go all the way around, just back and forth, you can control them to set different positions
[17:01] <GekkePrutser> But yeah for a drive motor you're going to need a real DC drive board
[17:01] <GekkePrutser> A lot of projects use servos for robot arms but not for the wheels
[17:01] <webiken> makes sense
[17:01] <webiken> any recommendation? a full kit that I can hook-up to the Pi 3 board?
[17:02] <GekkePrutser> Yes there's another company that sells kits, let me check
[17:02] <webiken> thanks!
[17:02] <GekkePrutser> http://4tronix.co.uk/store/index.php?rt=product/product&path=66_68&product_id=172
[17:02] <GekkePrutser> Also UK though - not sure if that's suitable to you
[17:03] <webiken> should be fine, I can wait on the shipping to state side
[17:03] <GekkePrutser> But no soldering required
[17:03] <webiken> Thanks!!
[17:03] <GekkePrutser> They have a few different models I think
[17:03] <GekkePrutser> Never tried them though!
[17:04] <webiken> btw I used a bread board and L293D and it is working
[17:04] <webiken> just the alignment is off and it's tough to move because of 15 wires!
[17:04] <webiken> not tough to drive, to physically pick up and move
[17:04] <GekkePrutser> Yeah I'm not a fan of breadboard outside of actual prototyping
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[17:04] <webiken> it drives fine with GPIO code I found on GH
[17:05] <webiken> agreed
[17:05] <GekkePrutser> Soldering really isn't that hard, the trick is to heat the board and the component lead and let the solder melt onto it
[17:05] <GekkePrutser> Rather than trying to melt the solder with the iron and try to smear it on the component
[17:06] <GekkePrutser> Then let it cool quickly and you'll get a nice shiny joint
[17:06] <webiken> I tried it. And it isn't that hard you're right, just a PITA .. especially if you have to remove and re-do
[17:06] <GekkePrutser> Yes that's true, if you're going to be removing it again it becomes message because the PCB holes will stay filled
[17:07] <GekkePrutser> You can use "litze" tape or an air sucker but it's a PITA for sure
[17:07] <GekkePrutser> it becomes a mess I meant (DYAC!!)
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[17:08] <webiken> I had to remove just to get it done more correctly .. then I fried both the Uno and the shield :) but that's unlrelated
[17:08] <webiken> unrelated*
[17:08] <webiken> so that kit you pasted .. where does the Pi go?
[17:08] <GekkePrutser> Yep especially with multi pin components like ICs, removing is very hard
[17:08] <GekkePrutser> I think on top
[17:08] <GekkePrutser> On the pic there's arduino there
[17:08] <webiken> gotcha
[17:08] <GekkePrutser> Oh no actually there's a pi
[17:09] <GekkePrutser> With robot board on top
[17:09] <GekkePrutser> It's an old model though
[17:09] <webiken> can't tell
[17:09] <GekkePrutser> But should work with the new ones too, you just won't be able to use the extra GPIOs
[17:09] <webiken> don't need them AFAI right now
[17:09] <GekkePrutser> The old ones have only 24 pins, new ones have 40
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[17:10] <GekkePrutser> 26 actually sorry
[17:10] <GekkePrutser> And the new oens 40
[17:10] <GekkePrutser> ones
[17:10] <webiken> the 3 I have does have 40
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[17:11] <GekkePrutser> Yes all 3's are like that
[17:11] <GekkePrutser> But the first 26 pins have the same function as the original pi
[17:12] <webiken> the video is pretty much exactly what I need
[17:12] <webiken> It's OK to be an older board since I'm offloading all the image processing to desktop anyways
[17:12] <GekkePrutser> You could use the new one I'm sure
[17:12] <webiken> nice!
[17:12] <webiken> oh yeah the drop down shows a Pi 3 option
[17:12] <GekkePrutser> The mounting holes are in a different place but it looks like their base plate has lots of holes
[17:13] <webiken> Pi 3 Model B
[17:13] <GekkePrutser> Yes there is no model A pi 3
[17:13] <webiken> gotcha
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[17:13] <webiken> thanks again!
[17:14] <GekkePrutser> No problem, if I can help with anything just PM me or highlight me here :)
[17:15] <GekkePrutser> I was actually thinking of buyone one of those kits a while ago, that's why I remembered
[17:15] <GekkePrutser> But I have so many unfinished projects already :)
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[17:15] <webiken> yeah! I hear that
[17:15] <GekkePrutser> The Pi is great though.. So many things we couldn't do before that
[17:16] <webiken> I am a little hesitant now cause they're just using jumpter
[17:16] <GekkePrutser> And 3D printing... This is a great time to be a maker
[17:16] <webiken> jumpers* http://4tronix.co.uk/initio/
[17:16] <webiken> http://4tronix.co.uk/initio/
[17:16] <webiken> which is the same design I have now as well
[17:17] <webiken> http://4tronix.co.uk/arduino/4tronix-initio-pi.php
[17:17] <GekkePrutser> Probably because it's the most flexible in terms of placement
[17:17] <GekkePrutser> It does look like a mess though
[17:17] <webiken> that's the trade-off to no solder
[17:17] <GekkePrutser> http://4tronix.co.uk/store/index.php?rt=product/product&path=66_68&product_id=471 <- What about this?
[17:17] <GekkePrutser> You give up flexibility of adding stuff on that one though
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[17:18] <GekkePrutser> And I'm sure there's more robotics kits vendor.. This is just one I happened to come across before and bookmarked it
[17:18] <webiken> like the camera?
[17:18] <GekkePrutser> Yeah though that'd be fairly easy to tape to the front
[17:18] <webiken> ok so take-away is google :)
[17:19] <webiken> I would think so also
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[17:19] <GekkePrutser> You could just double-side-tape it to the battery holder
[17:19] <webiken> exactly what I have now
[17:19] <webiken> I had to caliberate tha camera since it doesn't sit in place too well :)
[17:19] <webiken> nice walk-through for that lesson
[17:20] <GekkePrutser> It's also taped to its own board so if it's angled that's probably why
[17:21] <webiken> how about the lego mindstorm? how would that work with the Pi?
[17:21] <GekkePrutser> I don't know to be honest, never used it
[17:21] <webiken> same here
[17:22] <GekkePrutser> By the way I think we're getting a bit off topic here (this is the #raspbian channel specific to the Linux distro for the pi)
[17:22] <webiken> gotta get back to work
[17:22] <GekkePrutser> The #raspberrypi channel might be better
[17:22] <webiken> thanks again
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[17:23] <GekkePrutser> Have fun!
[17:25] <GekkePrutser> And sorry for the offtopic discussion
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[19:39] <CDOG> hey, anyone got tips for making Pi Cam better in low light (for recording continous video) - i am using python picamera?
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[20:13] <CDOG> Also, how come the low light conditions get much worse when writing to a file instead of just preview
[20:14] <redrabbit> i'm looking for a way of turning the red led off on a rpi3
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[20:16] <GekkePrutser> CDOG: the only way is replacing the lens with one with much greater aperture
[20:17] <GekkePrutser> Redrabbit: the red led is wired directly to input power. Maybe you could break a trace of something
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[20:17] <CDOG> to best honest i'm just after something whcih isn't completely black - which i can manage using preview
[20:17] <CDOG> just not when writing to a file
[20:18] <GekkePrutser> I use very long shutter times for photos and it's fine then
[20:18] <GekkePrutser> You can also bump the gain but it gets really grading
[20:18] <GekkePrutser> Grainy sorry
[20:18] <CDOG> for dashcam bud needs to be a video. i've 0 photography knowledge :P
[20:19] <GekkePrutser> It's just that tiny lens doesn't let in much light
[20:19] <redrabbit> there is /sys/class/leds/led0 but no /sys/class/leds/led1 on the PI3
[20:19] <redrabbit> so you can only control the green one
[20:19] <GekkePrutser> Yep check the schematic
[20:19] <GekkePrutser> It's wired directly to power
[20:19] <redrabbit> damnit
[20:19] <redrabbit> :D
[20:20] <GekkePrutser> At least it was on the original
[20:20] <redrabbit> meh
[20:20] <redrabbit> well.
[20:20] <GekkePrutser> Pretty sure it still is
[20:20] <GekkePrutser> You can just snap it off the board :)
[20:20] <GekkePrutser> Or tape it
[20:20] * redrabbit stops researching
[20:21] <redrabbit> snapping it off is kind of brutal lol
[20:21] <redrabbit> i'm just gonna live with it
[20:21] <redrabbit> its not like its gonna drain my battery too much
[20:21] <redrabbit> at least i can control the green one :p
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[20:25] <GekkePrutser> Just double checked
[20:26] <GekkePrutser> It's connected to the power supervisor
[20:26] <CDOG> setting FPS to 0 fixed it...
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[20:26] <GekkePrutser> So if the power is OK it's on
[20:26] <GekkePrutser> No switching on it unless you reset the processor too :)
[20:27] <GekkePrutser> CDOG ah yes then you use a longer shutter time
[20:27] <GekkePrutser> Otherwise you're limited to the time between frames
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[20:27] <CDOG> ahhhh gotcha! cheers
[20:27] <GekkePrutser> It'll probably get blurry then in a moving bar
[20:27] <GekkePrutser> Car
[20:28] <GekkePrutser> But worth a try!
[20:28] <CDOG> yeah i'll give it a shot. not bothered about clarity just so u can see whats actually happening lol
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[20:29] <CDOG> >someone complained about my driving @ work and all rtg dashcams are toooo big and bulky :/
[20:29] <GekkePrutser> Im thinking of making one too
[20:29] <GekkePrutser> And use encryption on it
[20:29] <CDOG> whys that?
[20:29] <GekkePrutser> Then I can choose whether to share it or not
[20:30] <GekkePrutser> Otherwise it's like buying a cam to spy on myself :)
[20:31] <GekkePrutser> But I mean that's just for me, I wasn't recommending you do that
[20:31] <CDOG> ah. i just have it sending files to samba shared folders. if i need anything, it autoconnects to wifi when i get home so just browse
[20:31] <GekkePrutser> Sorry I'm a bit brief, on the tablet
[20:31] <GekkePrutser> Cool idea!
[20:32] <CDOG> got lucky w/ car, it leaves cig lighter on for 30 mins after locking, no need to hardwire to ingition-live wire :D
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[20:32] <GekkePrutser> Ah yes i was just going to say, don't leave it on 24/7, a pi will drain a career battery in a few days
[20:33] <GekkePrutser> That 30m thing is perfdct
[20:33] <GekkePrutser> Perfect
[20:33] <GekkePrutser> Sorry I should go find a real keyboard
[20:33] <CDOG> hahah
[20:34] <CDOG> Managed to hide the actual Pi in DAB Antenna housing too
[20:34] <CDOG> *almost* completely hidden
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[20:42] <redrabbit> do you guys know a good 3G or 4G usb key for the pi
[20:42] <redrabbit> with sim slot
[20:43] <redrabbit> and good reception
[20:43] <redrabbit> external antenna capabilities whould be great
[20:44] <redrabbit> would*
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[21:50] <mete> redrabbit: let me check which one I use
[21:50] <redrabbit> thanks
[21:51] <mete> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=159344&p
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[21:52] <redrabbit> http://www.ebay.com/itm/x/122227802954
[21:52] <redrabbit> its funny i was looking at this one
[21:52] <redrabbit> they are the sale
[21:52] <redrabbit> same
[21:52] <redrabbit> can you do port forwarding and connect to your pi from your pc to 4G
[21:54] <mete> I use it in the hi link mode, I don't know if portforwarding is available... but the problem will be, that you don't get a private external ip address, the ip address from your ISP will be already natted... so no, direct connection from outside to the PI is not possible
[21:54] <mete> what you can do is create a tunnel from the PI to some server like openvpn server or ssh server
[21:57] <redrabbit> i thought about it
[21:57] <redrabbit> but its not as reliable
[21:57] <mete> what is not reliable?
[21:58] <redrabbit> the vpn solution is ok but direct connection availability would be a plus
[21:59] <mete> openvpn will always be connected... had never problems with openvpn links over mobile networks
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[21:59] <redrabbit> i have two openvpn servers
[21:59] <redrabbit> so that could work
[21:59] <redrabbit> maybe i can put both and the other one would be a failsafe
[22:00] <redrabbit> mete: what kind of speeds do you get / ping ?
[22:01] <mete> depends on many factors
[22:01] <mete> 30ms
[22:02] <mete> never testet the throughput... as it will be limited to the cpu of my pi zero
[22:02] <redrabbit> this is good for the ping
[22:02] <redrabbit> would still be interesting
[22:02] <redrabbit> there is speedtest-cli that's quick to use
[22:03] <redrabbit> 30ms is even very good
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[22:08] <mete> the stick isn't in use currently, I used it for testing purposes 20 days
[22:08] <redrabbit> so it is good overall?
[22:08] <mete> had no problem with it, expect getting it to work :D
[22:08] <redrabbit> ah
[22:08] <mete> but in the forum post I have written down all necessary steps
[22:09] <redrabbit> ok :D
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[22:09] <mete> I will use it for data logging far away :D
[22:09] <redrabbit> are there dongles out there that are more compatibles ?
[22:09] <mete> I haven't found anything with LTE...
[22:09] <redrabbit> explain your setup
[22:10] <mete> pi with LTE dongle, connected via VPN to my server. there I will query the PI over snmp to get weather data ;)
[22:10] <redrabbit> i want to do a pi in a sealed case with multiple wifi interfaces solar panel, webcam.
[22:10] <mete> distance is about 1700km (air line)
[22:11] <mete> and yes, it will be powered through solar :D
[22:11] <mete> the problem all these sticks have... they consume much power
[22:11] <redrabbit> atm i have that but without the seal, solar, panel or cam
[22:11] <redrabbit> just battery pack + pi + wifi
[22:11] <redrabbit> i want to add 4G internet
[22:11] <redrabbit> ah that's bad news
[22:11] <redrabbit> :c
[22:12] <mete> if you only have to transfer little files, use 3G
[22:12] <mete> 3G needs less poewr in idle, and also when transmitting data. but, it is slower
[22:12] <mete> so for big files LTE could be better then (for power usage)
[22:13] <mete> you can also send me a query if you have further questions
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[22:15] <redrabbit> can you switch between modes ?
[22:15] <redrabbit> on the Huawei
[22:16] <redrabbit> do you know how much mW it uses on idle
[22:16] <redrabbit> 3G/4G
[22:16] <mete> this is possible yes
[22:16] <redrabbit> cool
[22:16] <mete> don't know exactly, there is somewhere a doc
[22:16] <mete> let me check the itnernet xD
[22:17] <redrabbit> how much did you payed for it
[22:17] <redrabbit> i found it for like 40euro with shipping
[22:17] <mete> 50euros or so in switzerland
[22:17] <mete> https://grunenberger.net/2014/02/24/4g-3g-2g-power-consumption/
[22:18] <mete> check this one
[22:18] <redrabbit> i should get an usb extender to put it on a good spot
[22:18] <mete> for 3g vs 4g consumption
[22:18] <redrabbit> thanks
[22:18] <mete> it is a good start. but it always also depends on singal strenght of both...
[22:18] <mete> if you have good lte signal but bad 3g singal, it could be that 4g uses less power I think
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[22:20] <redrabbit> allright:)
[22:20] <redrabbit> the guy talks about a E3276
[22:20] <redrabbit> is it the same chip
[22:21] <redrabbit> 93,3 mA Idle is good
[22:21] <redrabbit> i mean its a lot
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[22:21] <redrabbit> but i could be worse
[22:21] <redrabbit> the battery can handle that
[22:21] <redrabbit> also can you turn it off from the pi ?
[22:22] <redrabbit> 184 mA Connected
[22:22] <redrabbit> ouch
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[22:24] <mete> never tested to turn it off
[22:24] <mete> you have to shut down the usb port I think
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[22:28] <redrabbit> i don't know how to do that ^^
[22:28] <redrabbit> and can you power it on after?
[22:30] <redrabbit> if you have the usb shutdown command i'm interested
[22:30] <mete> don't know
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[22:41] <redrabbit> https://github.com/codazoda/hub-ctrl.c
[22:41] <redrabbit> i hope this works on the rpi3
[22:47] <GekkePrutser> Mete: you could consider LoRa like the things network if it has to be super low power
[22:47] <GekkePrutser> Very low bandwidth though
[22:47] <GekkePrutser> And it has to be available in the area of course
[22:48] <GekkePrutser> If you use an arduino style station you can run it for months off a battery
[22:51] <GekkePrutser> And you can't turn off the power on the pi USB ports
[22:51] <GekkePrutser> But you can make a relay or something of course
[22:55] <GekkePrutser> Could be though that you can get the USB device itself to power off
[22:56] <GekkePrutser> But at least on the original pi the USB power pins were connected directly to the 5V lines
[22:57] <GekkePrutser> For the pi 2 and 3 they only supply very limited schematics, that stuff isn't even in it. But I'm pretty sure it still works that way
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[23:32] <redrabbit> https://github.com/codazoda/hub-ctrl.c
[23:32] <redrabbit> this stuff turns my ports off GekkePrutser
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[23:34] <redrabbit> just turned my external wifi on and off
[23:34] <redrabbit> works
[23:34] <redrabbit> perfect to save power on battey operated
[23:34] <redrabbit> especialyl with the power sucker 3G
[23:34] <redrabbit> it will turn on on a shedule
[23:34] <redrabbit> and ill turn it off when im done
[23:35] <redrabbit> like turn on 2 minutes each hour so i have a window to enter
[23:35] <redrabbit> and keep it on for while i use it
[23:35] <redrabbit> by the way is there a way to power on the rpi on a shedule like you can with bios
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