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[3:09] <GekkePrutser> Redrabbit: Cool!! I had no idea that was changed on the pi 2/3. Wish they'd publish the schematics like they used to so. The new ones are not complete
[3:10] <redrabbit> :)
[3:12] <GekkePrutser> Really great for saving power. On the original pi the USB power definitely didn't go through the hub chip. Sorry for giving wrong info
[3:13] <redrabbit> i don't know if it really cuts power but the wifi card stops working
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[3:14] <GekkePrutser> Could be that it receives a command to power off yes, but from the description on github it sounds
[3:14] <GekkePrutser> Like it turns off the actual port which is super
[3:14] <GekkePrutser> I had some issues with 3G dongles hanging in CD drive emulation mode on the original
[3:14] <GekkePrutser> So really great to be able to power cycle them
[3:15] <redrabbit> try it and tell me if it works for you
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[3:15] <GekkePrutser> Will do tomorrow!
[3:16] <redrabbit> ./hub-ctrl -h 0 -P 5 -p 0 ./hub-ctrl -h 0 -P 5 -p 1 powerand off/on the bottom right port on my PI3
[3:16] <GekkePrutser> There was actually a lot of issues with USB power on the original
[3:16] <GekkePrutser> The polyfuses would slowly overheat and drop the voltage
[3:17] <redrabbit> damn
[3:17] <GekkePrutser> And it would reset the pi of you suddenly plug something heavy in or out
[3:18] <GekkePrutser> So I know they redesigned the USB power bit because they fixed all that
[3:20] <GekkePrutser> Thanks for that, great to have this
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[3:21] <redrabbit> you have to ifdown / ifup the card atfer too
[3:24] <GekkePrutser> Ah so it's one of the new style ones that pretend to be a network interface. Nice
[3:24] <GekkePrutser> The ones I have pretend to be a super fast serial port shop you have you do your own dial up and ppp
[3:25] <GekkePrutser> That's why they have a CD emu mode so you can install the drivers on a windows machine
[3:26] <GekkePrutser> The whole dialup part is a pain though. I have one of those new style ones, so much easier
[3:27] <metalwinter> is there anyway to make a micro sd card corrupt when it's unplugged from a raspberry pi? or only mountable by the raspberry pi?
[3:27] <GekkePrutser> I used the sakis3g script for the dial up of you ever need to do that with another stick.
[3:27] <GekkePrutser> You can mount it on a Linux machine
[3:27] <GekkePrutser> Or vm
[3:27] <redrabbit> brb
[3:27] <GekkePrutser> It's just standard ext4 for the data partition
[3:27] <GekkePrutser> On windows you'll just see the /boot past
[3:28] <GekkePrutser> Part
[3:29] <GekkePrutser> (that was for metalwinter). If you want to fix one on Linux you can use fsck
[3:29] <metalwinter> I want it to only be mountable by the raspberry pi though don't want any other device to be able to mount it - or failing that I'd be happy if it just corrupts when it's taken out of the raspberry pi (I want the micro sd card to essentially break when it's taken out of the pi)
[3:30] <GekkePrutser> Hm you may be able to use Luks to encrypt or something but I've never done that
[3:30] <GekkePrutser> I thought you meant you wanted to fix a corrupted one sorry.
[3:31] <metalwinter> GekkePrutser, yea I figured full disk encryption (or partial encryption) was my only option I mean if it can be setup through CLI I could probably manage to make a bash script to setup a random passphrase that gets deleted after an hour of running the script
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[3:32] <GekkePrutser> Not sure if the boot image on the pi supports encryption though
[3:32] <GekkePrutser> I've never tried that
[3:33] <GekkePrutser> The SD often corrupts when you remove it but not always.
[3:33] <GekkePrutser> And only if you take it out while it's running of course
[3:33] <GekkePrutser> And when it happens to do something heavy at that time
[3:34] <GekkePrutser> Now I do usually turn journalling off to make writes faster
[3:36] <metalwinter> think I should be able to make a script to encrypt the folder with LUKs mount it then delete the passphrase so the user can't decrypt it even if they wanted to
[3:37] <GekkePrutser> Yes you can use cryptsetup
[3:37] <redrabbit> i don't have a 3G dongle yet but i ordered it and i try to powerdown on my wlan card
[3:37] <redrabbit> should work the same
[3:37] <redrabbit> cryptsetup is great
[3:38] <metalwinter> GekkePrutser, think that's the way I'll be going then
[3:38] <redrabbit> its easier to use files as encrypted containers
[3:38] <redrabbit> more convinient
[3:39] <redrabbit> i did an encrypted debian usb key with persitance once
[3:39] <GekkePrutser> Oh yes you'll probably have to use losetup to mount from a container
[3:39] <redrabbit> performance suffer
[3:40] <redrabbit> https://designdesk.org/linux
[3:40] <redrabbit> on how to mount from file
[3:40] <redrabbit> mh not sure its right link
[3:40] <redrabbit> ill find it
[3:41] <metalwinter> redrabbit, a passphrase and luks will work as long as no one knows the decryption key and it gets mounted once that's all I need
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[3:42] <redrabbit> just work inside the luks container
[3:43] <redrabbit> the whole time
[3:43] <metalwinter> redrabbit, alright I'll look into it
[3:43] <redrabbit> if some pull the sd he aint got nothung
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[3:43] <redrabbit> them' ridiculous
[3:44] <metalwinter> alright sweet
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[3:53] <redrabbit> https://designdesk.org/linux/dd-command-copy-whole-volumes
[3:53] <redrabbit> at mount image
[3:53] <redrabbit> basically you do that after you luksopen your container
[3:54] <redrabbit> errr i'm not even sure you need it
[3:54] <redrabbit> you dont need this in face
[3:55] <redrabbit> cryptsetup luksOpen "$HOME/$1.dd" $1 && mount "/dev/mapper/$1" "/$1"
[3:55] <redrabbit> replace $1 by container name
[3:57] <metalwinter> redrabbit, thanks a lot
[3:57] <redrabbit> you're welcome
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[4:02] <redrabbit> try it and tell me if you success
[4:03] <redrabbit> if not ill write something on my site quick
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[4:04] <metalwinter> redrabbit, it'll be weeks if not months until I'm at that stage of my project
[4:05] <redrabbit> ok cool
[4:05] <redrabbit> ill be here
[4:07] <metalwinter> thanks
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[5:56] <Jeryx244> Hi guys. I'm having a little trouble resizing a partition on my pi, was hoping someone could give me a hand? the webguides aint cutting it on this one
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[5:59] <c-c> Jeryx244: can you make a pastie or a gist of your session log so far?
[5:59] <Jeryx244> session log?
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[6:00] <c-c> what you done so far
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[6:00] <c-c> - often copypaste of the terminal window lines
[6:01] <Jeryx244> what I've done so far is to try to use gparted on it. I can see my existing root partition (28.10 gigs, /dev/sda7) on the card, and 30.19 gigs of unallocated space
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[6:01] <c-c> ok, and whats the prob?
[6:01] <Jeryx244> gparted will let me attempt to resize the partition, but it says the max size is its current size
[6:02] <Jeryx244> wont let me make it any larger. I figured the problem might be because its the card I'm booting off of, so I tried booting off my original 32 gig card and ran gparted on the 64 (via a usb reader), and hitting the same wall
[6:03] <c-c> ok
[6:03] <Jeryx244> I am of course running gparted from sudo. it yells at me if I dont and closes. dang elitest app...
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[6:04] <c-c> thats normal
[6:04] <Jeryx244> ya I figured as much. I dont wanna just delete the partition because its the root partition and has 12 gigs worth of stuff on it
[6:06] <c-c> I think 32 GB limit is imposed by the fat32 filesysteem used
[6:06] <c-c> it is fat32, isn't it?
[6:06] <Jeryx244> ext4
[6:08] <c-c> can you pastie or gist a list of the partitions
[6:09] <c-c> f.ex output of $ fdisk -l
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[6:11] <Jeryx244> trying to. I'm still a linux lightweight and the terminal is still a bit of uncharted territory for me
[6:12] <Jeryx244> on dos I would use >filename to pipe output to a file. any easy way to do that in terminal??
[6:13] <c-c> yes
[6:13] <c-c> - I would $ fdisk -l > /tmp/fdout.txt
[6:15] <Jeryx244> ok that worked. pastie?
[6:15] <c-c> pastie.org
[6:17] <Jeryx244> http://pastie.org/10982809
[6:17] <c-c> whoa
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[6:17] <hope> hello can I place my query regarding raspberry pi here?
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[6:18] <Jeryx244> mmcblk0 is the 32, sda1 is the 64 I cloned it to. presently booted off the 32
[6:18] <c-c> Guest74329: there is dedicated #raspberrypi
[6:18] <Guest74329> oh
[6:19] <Guest74329> can you please provide me the link? Newbie here
[6:19] <c-c> Jeryx244: so which one were you trying to resize?
[6:19] <c-c> Guest74329: channel #raspberrypi
[6:20] <Jeryx244> I was attempting to resize sda7, but it appears sda7 and sda2 are clones of one another
[6:20] <c-c> Jeryx244: yes, I can't see how there would be much free space on /dev/sda if its 64GB
[6:21] <Jeryx244> there is 30.19gig unallocated according to gparted. this confuses me
[6:21] <Jeryx244> looking at the start and end of sda2 and 7, they appear to overlap
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[6:22] <mohit> hi guys
[6:22] <Jeryx244> oh duh
[6:22] <c-c> indeed the "start" are close and "end" is the same
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[6:22] <Guest18727> anyone here who can just give me a hint to how to fix a problem
[6:23] <Jeryx244> a screenshot of gparted may shed some light on this. how do I get one to you?
[6:23] <c-c> Jeryx244: is there perhaps something special in the way that drive was prepared?
[6:23] <c-c> Jeryx244: imgurl? aijaa.com?
[6:24] <Jeryx244> the original 32 was prepared with noobs and resized on the pi. the 64 was a direct clone of the 32
[6:24] <Jeryx244> ok, how do I take a screenshot on raspbian?
[6:24] <Guest18727> mmm... okey my problem is that, i have prepared a webpage over raspberry very simple one, a web button to control a gpio pin, now the problem is that it doesn't work in realtime
[6:24] * c-c is not usually raspbian but debian so perhaps this is some magic, but I think partitions should never, ever overlap
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[6:25] <c-c> ah, of course!
[6:25] <c-c> that sda2 is just a "logical" parition
[6:26] <Jeryx244> the card I started with, I used noobs to put a small system image onto it, then once I booted the pi, there was an expand filesystem option under raspi-config. however that will not work on the 64 as its a clone of the 32 where thats already been done
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[6:27] <Jeryx244> AH! just got it
[6:27] <c-c> Jeryx244: so you are working off the booted partition?
[6:27] <Jeryx244> ok, I had to resize sda2 first, THEN resize sda7
[6:28] <c-c> yes
[6:28] <Jeryx244> when I attempted to resize sda2 before, it was when I was booted off the 64
[6:28] <Jeryx244> and no, at present I am booted off the 32, the 64 is in a usb adaptor
[6:28] <c-c> unpossible, as mounted partition cannot be resized
[6:28] <c-c> +a
[6:28] <Jeryx244> but this *appears* to have worked now
[6:29] <Guest74329> Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
[6:29] <Guest74329> what does that mena?
[6:29] <Jeryx244> applying operations now
[6:29] <c-c> Guest74329: perhaps reserved for someone
[6:29] <c-c> Guest74329: I think you'd have to provide a pastie or gist of your code, and logs of your program
[6:30] <Guest74329> oh
[6:31] <Jeryx244> umm... this is strange
[6:31] <Jeryx244> lemme get another pastie up
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[6:33] <Jeryx244> ...pastie is not cooperating
[6:35] <Jeryx244> http://pastie.org/10982812
[6:35] <Guest74329> should I change username in IRC chat differently?
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[6:37] <Jeryx244> I think I made it mad
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[6:38] <c-c> Jeryx244: looks like 58 GB partition to me
[6:39] <c-c> +a
[6:39] <c-c> Jeryx244: try booting off it now
[6:39] * c-c goes
[6:39] <Jeryx244> ya, but whats confusing me is, look at the start and end on sda 5 and 6,
[6:40] <Jeryx244> there seems to be a lot of overlap on these
[6:40] <c-c> nope, none
[6:40] <Jeryx244> ok, forget what I just said. ugh. its nearly 11 here and I am insufficiently caffeinated for numbers of this scale
[6:41] <Guest74329> I insist can anyone help? in joining new here
[6:41] <Guest74329> 12:11] To join a channel type: /JOIN #hello [12:11] == #raspberrypi Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services [12:11] Insufficient arguments for command. [12:10] To join a channel type: /JOIN #JOIN
[6:41] <Guest74329> this I am getting
[6:41] <Jeryx244> I was seeing the overlap on sda2 vs the others, which now I understand
[6:42] <Jeryx244> ya theyve got their channel locked to unregistered users and guests. I have the same problem
[6:42] <Jeryx244> its like they dont want the newcomers to get help...
[6:42] <Guest74329> oh sad
[6:42] <Guest74329> I want to learn some imperative concepts.
[6:43] <Guest74329> how I can register here pal? with a nickname?
[6:44] <Jeryx244> c-c: successful boot off the 64 and I appear to have all available space or all but 1 meg of it anyway
[6:45] <Jeryx244> thank you much for your assistance
[6:48] <c-c> Jeryx244: ok good to hear, good luck!
[6:48] <c-c> Guest74329: you need to register with freenode
[6:48] <c-c> google that
[6:48] <Jeryx244> what do I need luck for? I've got a help channel ;)
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[6:52] <Guest74329> okay. Thanks
[7:04] <Jeryx244> I was inspired by a youtube channel and am attempting to make a pi laptop out of a motorola lapdock
[7:05] <Jeryx244> lots of people have apparently done it with the pi2, and its supposedly cake for the zero. I however have a pi3, and the lapdock just cant supply enough power
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[7:41] <Jeryx244> for my next trick, I am attempting to access the pi from my windows computer to transfer files to it, and everything I have attempted has failed. and for some reason vnc server on the pi is refusing authentication despite having the password just set and reset on it
[7:41] <Jeryx244> I swear the "easier" they make this crap the less of it works when you need it to
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[11:51] * HeXiLeD is new to the pie
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[11:52] <HeXiLeD> 32gb card. want to use the pie to install a lot more sw after the install. Should i truncate --reference with dd to install rasbian or simply dd
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[11:56] <BazookaTooth> +1 iss 3
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[12:38] <GekkePrutser> I also used it with the lapdock Jeryx244
[12:38] <GekkePrutser> But I used separate power
[12:38] <GekkePrutser> I use it as a console for my server now :)
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[12:39] <GekkePrutser> HeXiLeD: I always just dd the image and then use raspi-config to resize to take the full SD space
[12:40] <GekkePrutser> Just did that with the latest raspbian jessie image a few days ago (the image of 25-11 IIRC)
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[12:41] <HeXiLeD> how about dd bs=4M if=/dev/sde of=from-sd-card.img
[12:41] <HeXiLeD> truncate --reference 2016-11-25-raspbian-jessie-lite.img
[12:41] <HeXiLeD> diff -s from-sd-card.img 2016-11-25-raspbian-jessie-lite.img
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[12:42] <GekkePrutser> What are you trying to do there?
[12:42] <GekkePrutser> Combine with an old SD image or something?
[12:44] <GekkePrutser> I always just dd the image directly to the card (overwriting whatever was on there)
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[12:44] <GekkePrutser> It will only use about 2GB then (due to the partition table in the image not allocating more), but you can expand filesystem using raspi-config
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[12:45] <GekkePrutser> And then it will take the full capacity of the card on the next boot
[12:47] <HeXiLeD> that might be the way to go. will test
[12:47] <HeXiLeD> thank you
[12:47] <GekkePrutser> I know it works on a clean image
[12:47] <GekkePrutser> Though I never used a card that big, I think most of mine are 16GB
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[12:48] <GekkePrutser> Shouldn't be a problem though
[12:49] <HeXiLeD> ssh is off by default right ?
[12:50] <GekkePrutser> Yes it is since the latest image (25 Nov)
[12:50] <GekkePrutser> You need to put a blank file in the boot partition called "ssh"
[12:51] <GekkePrutser> to enable it. (Boot partition is the FAT32 you can mount from Windows)
[12:52] <GekkePrutser> http://www.ubuntumaniac.com/2016/12/raspbian-2016-11-25-has-released-ssh.html
[12:52] <GekkePrutser> Sorry this is a better link: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/
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[12:54] <HeXiLeD> i have read about SD card corruption when rpi gets the power cord unplugged. Is this a common problem ?
[12:54] <GekkePrutser> Fairly common yes
[12:55] <HeXiLeD> how about if the sdcard is locked to prevent writing ?
[12:55] <GekkePrutser> Even though it's a journalling FS it does happen. Especially with the (non-journalling) fat32 boot partition
[12:55] <GekkePrutser> It doesn't look at the lock switch at all
[12:55] <GekkePrutser> The lock switch is normally read by an optical sensor in the SD slot, but the pi doesn't have that
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[12:55] <GekkePrutser> And the pi B+/2/3 use micro SD which don't even have a lock switch
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[12:56] <HeXiLeD> so leaving a rpi unattended/remotely for a long time where some power outages can happen, is bound to lose access to it at some point ?
[12:57] <GekkePrutser> I've run several remotely for years and it has happened to me yes
[12:57] <GekkePrutser> Though it was more common with the Pi 1 because its friction connected used to bend the SD cards which also caused major issues over time
[12:57] <GekkePrutser> its friction connector I mean
[12:58] <GekkePrutser> The B+/2/3 have a push-pull one that doesn't bend the card anymore
[12:58] <GekkePrutser> Or push/push even sorry
[12:58] <GekkePrutser> I've always been able to fix it with fsck though
[12:58] <GekkePrutser> But that's not much good if you're not nearby
[12:59] <GekkePrutser> But it is a lot less common now with the new connector so that must have been the main reason
[12:59] <HeXiLeD> the idea i have is to put the pi on a wlan/lan as s small server (ircd/httpd). will be remote (6K away). So given the sdcard corruption issues, the PI is not a good idea. Do you agree ?
[13:00] <GekkePrutser> Well you will get corruption issues on any type of drive when hard powering it off
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[13:01] <GekkePrutser> I think a better way is to avoid it from happening
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[13:01] <HeXiLeD> I bought mine a whiiiiiiile ago. might be one of the first. says P1 2011.12
[13:01] <GekkePrutser> Oh yeah that's the original one
[13:01] <HeXiLeD> i can have it connected to a ups, but ... they have a limit too.
[13:02] <GekkePrutser> The 1.0 but with 512MB
[13:02] <GekkePrutser> Sorry 2.0
[13:02] <GekkePrutser> That's true, you could run something like apcupsd to shut it down safely
[13:02] <HeXiLeD> do you know of any other PI type hw that would not suffer sdcard corruption in this scenario ?
[13:03] <GekkePrutser> I think there's always a small chance of this happening, even on a real x86 server
[13:03] <GekkePrutser> Journalling filesystems aren't a complete guarantee because not all writes are atomic
[13:03] <GekkePrutser> Though SD cards might make it worse because they have internal housekeeping going on (wear levelling) that also does a lot of writes and the pi does not have any control over
[13:04] <HeXiLeD> yes true. but i can deal with a piece of hardware that lets me lock the sdcard to prevent writing.
[13:04] <GekkePrutser> Real SSD's have capacitors to bridge the shutdown time and finish up their logging
[13:04] <GekkePrutser> you can probably prevent it from happening if you mount it readonly but you won't be able to write anything to it then
[13:04] <HeXiLeD> how about if rasbian will mount the OS only to read
[13:04] <HeXiLeD> yup
[13:05] <GekkePrutser> I've never tried it but I think it should work
[13:05] <HeXiLeD> i can deal with that.
[13:05] <GekkePrutser> You'll have to mount some stuff on a ramdisk, turn off logging as much as possible
[13:06] <HeXiLeD> how about ro only for crucial parts /dirs of the fs and rw for stuff like log/ tmp/ and so on
[13:06] <GekkePrutser> I know OpenELEC does something similar
[13:06] <GekkePrutser> You could check for corroption issues with OpenELEC on google, if there aren't any that means that readonly option works
[13:07] <GekkePrutser> tmp is already a ramdisk on raspbian
[13:07] <HeXiLeD> I can test here by plug/unplug the pi
[13:07] <GekkePrutser> Oh actually it isn't
[13:07] <GekkePrutser> I'm confusing tmpfs with the actual /tmp mount
[13:08] <ewook> O_o
[13:08] <GekkePrutser> Yes but it doesn't happen every time.. Only 1 time in a few hundred
[13:08] <GekkePrutser> I have had some situations where the card wouldn't boot after a hard-down and fsck'ing it fixed it
[13:08] <GekkePrutser> But it is quite rare
[13:09] <ewook> I've burned 5 sdcards so far over the years. it happens.
[13:09] <GekkePrutser> Oh I've never had one completely break on me
[13:09] <HeXiLeD> also read that some cards are better. like genuine brand
[13:09] <ewook> correct.
[13:10] <HeXiLeD> how can we confirm we have the genuine article ?
[13:10] <HeXiLeD> anyone can put a sticker on it
[13:10] <GekkePrutser> Just buy it from a good retailer
[13:10] <GekkePrutser> Not some dodgy ebay or china shop
[13:11] <ewook> sd cards a scary.
[13:11] <ewook> most larger manufacturers does good by function.
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[13:11] <ewook> but, there's always bad batches in all manufacturing.
[13:11] <HeXiLeD> thing is, most are made in china
[13:11] <ewook> mhm
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[13:12] <ewook> but under a specific brand name, with specific components, like everything else .
[13:12] <HeXiLeD> bought this thing years ago. Booting it for the first time eheh
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[13:13] <HeXiLeD> oh yah booted :)
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[13:17] <HeXiLeD> so another idea.... i could have the OS as ro and then a few partitions as rw mounted where for example, the ircd, httpd and storage could be running. This would protect the OS making sure it would always boot and i could always upgrade/update the other apps running on the rw partions. Now the question is if instead other partions i can use dirs with the same perms. (using partitions can fail if they need
[13:17] <HeXiLeD> to be unmounted to fsck
[13:17] <HeXiLeD> what do you think
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[13:21] <ewook> the safest solution as per protecting the card from fs-issues, would be only having the boot parts, and the rest over NFS.
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[13:28] <HeXiLeD> user: pi and passwd raspberry. Is there a root login or one must be using whimpy sudo all the time ?
[13:28] <HeXiLeD> nvm
[13:28] <HeXiLeD> got it
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[13:35] <pavan> i have RPi 3 and R305 biometric module
[13:35] <pavan> i want to store biometric image in my rpi
[13:35] <pavan> is it possible
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[14:04] <scoofy> hi. how to get dependencies automatically for apt-get install?
[14:04] <scoofy> apt-get install mingw-w64 says unmet dependencies (which are the actual packages that i need to install)
[14:04] <scoofy> (wheezy)
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[14:07] <scoofy> i get errors like: "mingw-w64 : Depends: gcc-mingw-w64 but it is not going to be installed"
[14:07] <scoofy> i want to install those packages. how to?
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[14:34] <pavan> i have R305 fingerprint module and RPi3
[14:34] <pavan> i want to store my finger in my RPi
[14:34] <pavan> is it possible
[14:36] <scoofy> does it have a linux driver?
[14:36] <scoofy> or how do you communicate with it
[14:36] <pavan> yes
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[14:36] <scoofy> then likely you can
[14:36] <pavan> connected throug UART
[14:36] <pavan> serial connection
[14:37] <pavan> right now verification of biometric is done in module
[14:37] <pavan> they have own database to store the biometric
[14:37] <pavan> but i want to store fingerprint in my own database
[14:38] <pavan> data = [0xef, 0x01, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff, 0x01, 0x00, 0x03, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x0e]
[14:38] <pavan> # data = UpImage.getHeader()
[14:38] <pavan> ser.write(bytearray(data));
[14:38] <pavan> time.sleep(1)
[14:38] <pavan> s = ser.read(ser.inWaiting())
[14:38] <pavan> adata = s[12:]
[14:38] <pavan> bdata = adata[9:-2]
[14:38] <pavan> f = open("test.bmp","wb")
[14:38] <pavan> f.write(bdata)
[14:38] <pavan> f.close
[14:38] <pavan> writen code in python but not displaying image
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[14:47] <DexterF> ~/.profile says i is parsed if no .bash_profile nor .bash_login is present. that's the case in raspbian out of the box, but still it is not sourced automatically, which I can see since ~ /bin is not in the PATH by itself.
[14:48] <DexterF> bug? feature? missing something?
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[14:52] <scoofy> pavan: have you tested what 's' is after ser.read? i'd place a debug line there
[14:54] <pavan> scoofy : in "S" it store byte array
[14:54] <scoofy> DexterF: it says the opposite
[14:54] <pavan> which send by module
[14:54] <scoofy> it says "this file is not read by bash if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login exists"
[14:55] <scoofy> pavan: yes, and I'd test if the data received is correct
[14:55] <scoofy> before the s[12:] ...
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[14:55] <pavan> scoofy : data recived is correct
[14:56] <pavan> no any error in pgm
[14:56] <scoofy> pavan so test.bmp is correct? then where is the problem
[14:56] <pavan> but when i open image it not showing any finger
[14:57] <pavan> /home/hacker/Pictures/Screenshot from 2016-12-15 11-51-01.png
[14:59] <scoofy> DexterF: also note the difference between 'login shells' and 'interactive shells'
[15:00] <scoofy> not all shells are login shells...
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[15:03] <DexterF> scoofy, we agreed actually: profile *is* parsed if no b_profile/b_login present == profile not read *if* b_profile/b_login present. but, ok, let's stick to the original since I agree with you anyway. so if I spawn a terminal in an empty openbox, that's not a login shell?
[15:03] <pavan> scoofy : is there any solution
[15:04] <scoofy> DexterF: afaik yes, that's not a login shell
[15:04] <scoofy> that's an interactive shell, but not a login shell
[15:05] <scoofy> pavan: what does the picture show?
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[15:05] <pavan> Scoofy : plese see my screenshot http://imgur.com/a/gHTLi
[15:06] <scoofy> pavan: it's an incorrect file
[15:06] <scoofy> i.e. not a BMP file
[15:06] <scoofy> i'd look at a hexdump
[15:06] <scoofy> $ hexdump test.bmp
[15:06] <scoofy> and analyze what's there
[15:07] <scoofy> maybe your offsets are wrong... in the python script
[15:08] <pavan> scoofy : pls check http://imgur.com/a/gHTLi
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[15:09] <scoofy> pavan: it's the same url ?
[15:09] <scoofy> i see the same screenshot
[15:10] <scoofy> DexterF: see https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/38175/difference-between-login-shell-and-non-login-shell for some info
[15:10] <scoofy> "When you log in on a text console, or through SSH, or with su -, you get an interactive login shell. When you log in in graphical mode (on an X display manager), you don't get a login shell, instead you get a session manager or a window manager."
[15:11] <DexterF> scoofy, I just found exactly that link, reading up :)
[15:11] <pavan> Scoofy : now check .... Sorry
[15:13] <pavan> scoofy : what solution for that acutually i am new in programing and python
[15:13] <scoofy> Dexter: echo $0
[15:14] <scoofy> if first character is '-', it's a login shell
[15:14] <scoofy> f.ex. "-bash"
[15:15] <scoofy> pavan: what is the link for your screenshot?
[15:18] <scoofy> pavan: i'd look at the data you're actually writing to test.bmp
[15:19] <scoofy> either your offsets are wrong, or the data is invalid
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[15:22] <scoofy> a hexdump analysis could tell that
[15:23] <HeXiLeD> there seems to be a lot to say about the quality of an sdcard. Anyone has a good a idea about the top notch card is ? (regardless of price)
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[15:25] <scoofy> HeXiLeD: buy one that is fast
[15:25] <scoofy> https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/speed_class/
[15:26] <HeXiLeD> http://panasonic.net/avc/sdcard/industrial_sd/lineup.html#slc
[15:26] <scoofy> those are class (6) or class (10) cards
[15:27] <scoofy> the class (10) is faster
[15:27] <HeXiLeD> panasonic seems to to be the way to go
[15:27] <scoofy> i wouldn't buy the class (4) cards
[15:28] <scoofy> the UHS3 class also looks interesting
[15:30] <scoofy> i'd probably choose a card based on speed (class (10) or better)
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[15:48] <HeXiLeD> Question is now, where to find an e-store that sells these industrial cards
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[15:52] <redrabbit> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013CP5F90/
[15:52] <redrabbit> i just buy this one
[15:53] <redrabbit> U3 , class 10
[15:53] <redrabbit> works fine and is fast
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[15:54] <redrabbit> U3 is what matter in that case
[15:54] <redrabbit> its the highest spec on https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/speed_class/
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[16:16] <niklas_e> if you want to run a imap server, which is best and easier to install?
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[16:33] <DexterF> niklas_e, only from what I heard Cyrus or Dove seem to be worth a look at
[16:36] <scoofy> HeXiLeD: ebay
[16:36] <scoofy> but beware of counterfeits
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[16:43] <redrabbit> just it on amazon
[16:43] <redrabbit> i dont see what the exotics cards have to offer vs the U3 i linked
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[17:21] <Echoz> python is just generally an annoying language
[17:25] <gordonDrogon> basic is much nicer :-)
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[17:27] <ErrantAuroch> RA
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[18:46] <pragmatism> My Pi, running current raspbian, will randomly hit 100% CPU usage and totally freeze up: no SSH, no CRON, mouse response takes minutes.
[18:46] <redrabbit> try fresh install
[18:46] <pragmatism> Is there somewhere load is logged on a per-process basis?
[18:47] <pragmatism> redrabbit not an option. Why do you recommend that?
[18:47] <redrabbit> to check hardware
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[18:47] <pragmatism> Ah
[18:47] <pragmatism> redrabbit Is that a gut feeling or is this a known issue?
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[18:53] <redrabbit> its probably software issue tbh
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[18:55] <gordonDrogon> once logged in, just run top in a window.
[18:56] <gordonDrogon> but making sure it's fully upgraded might help, although I've never seen that behaviour myself.
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[18:59] <at0m> pragmatism: what gordon said. run top in a terminal and find the process that uses so many cpu cycles. then troubleshoot that process.
[18:59] <pragmatism> Yeah
[18:59] <pragmatism> That's the last thing I wanted to do, lol
[18:59] <pragmatism> I was hoping I wouldn't just have to wait for another failure.
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[19:02] <gordonDrogon> well - you can run top in batch mode, so create a shell script that does something like loop, sleep 60 seconds, then runs top -n1 -b >> /home/pi/toplog
[19:02] <at0m> then hope logs will reveal more. if you manage to wade through them
[19:02] <gordonDrogon> then leave it running ... nohup command &
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[19:13] <pragmatism> gordonDrogon nice, good call
[19:13] <pragmatism> thanks
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[19:13] <pragmatism> thanks everyone
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[19:26] <cha18> can anyone confirm that native debian armhf works with raspberry pi 3?
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[19:44] <Kymru> cha18, is there an armhf version of debian?
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[20:02] <cha18> Kymru: yes
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[21:04] <Guest48932> I have a Raspberry Pi- running XCFe Debian and I lost my desktop , it's just gray. panel works and menus,, also get error when selecting Settings-Display
[21:05] <Guest48932> when clicking on Display I get ; Unable to start Xfce Display Settings - I have a Raspberry Pi- running XCFe Debian and I lost my desktop , it's just gray. panel works and menus,, also get error when selecting Settings-Display
[21:06] <Guest48932> unable to query the version of the RandR extension being used
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[22:11] <rev667> anyone figured out bluetooth headset on the Pi3 yet?
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