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IRC Log for 2016-12-17

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[2:03] <unitypunk> hey guys, i followed this guide (http://elinux.org/RPI-Wireless-Hotspot) and replaces eth0 with wlan0. so my pi can connect wirelessly, and creates its own hotspot/subnet. is there a way i can make it forward eth0 aswell as wlan0 to wlan1?
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[2:09] <plugwash> of course there is
[2:09] <th0r> unitypunk: you do it using iptables. research 'gateway' and you should find how to do it
[2:12] <unitypunk> will it be like seamless?
[2:13] <unitypunk> oh no, it probably wont huh, because the ips will need to switch when i go from eth to wlan or back
[2:16] <th0r> unitypunk: I forward eth0 to wlan0. the pi is the gateway...my private net on one side, the internet on the other. you could also set it up to link two private nets.
[2:16] <unitypunk> i just want to be able to have the pi connected and drop wlan0
[2:17] <th0r> you need to explain better than that
[2:18] <unitypunk> it looks like right now, i have wlan0 connecting to <SSID>, and wlan1 creating its own AP, using the network from wlan0
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[2:19] <th0r> wlan1 has an ip....is it on the same net as wlan0?
[2:19] <unitypunk> no, pi creates a subnet
[2:20] <th0r> so you have three networks hooked together?
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[2:21] <unitypunk> making one, and piggybacking on another.
[2:21] <unitypunk> http://elinux.org/RPI-Wireless-Hotspot
[2:21] <unitypunk> replace eth0 with wlan0
[2:21] <unitypunk> and thats where im at. id like to make eth0 operate the same way as wlan0.
[2:22] <unitypunk> so i can wire it into a network also
[2:23] <th0r> so the question stands. what are the ip addresses for each interface
[2:23] <unitypunk> the two dont need to operate at once (wlan0 and eth0)
[2:23] <unitypunk> wlan0 gets an ip like 192.168.1.x
[2:23] <unitypunk> wlan 0 offers ips at 192.168.42.1-100
[2:24] <unitypunk> wlan1 offers.. sorry
[2:25] <th0r> so there are three nets...wlan0 on 192.168.1 and wlan1 on 192.168.42. both can be forwarded to eth0....just create an additional set of iptables rules like the webpage indicates
[2:26] <unitypunk> i want eth0 to forward to wlan1
[2:26] <unitypunk> and wlan0 to still forward to wlan1
[2:26] <unitypunk> not necicerily at the same time.
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[2:26] <unitypunk> man, my spelling...
[2:27] <th0r> either way. you can have all the iptables rules...even if the interface isn't up....shouldn't hurt
[2:27] <unitypunk> it wont break the current rules if i jsut add more?
[2:27] <unitypunk> seems easy enough.
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[2:28] <th0r> nope. I used those few rules as a starting point. my gateway doubles as the network firewall, so my ruleset is much more complex
[2:30] <th0r> you can add iptables rules as you like. just be careful with remote management, a wrong rule can lock you out of the node and require a trip to the computer.
[2:30] <unitypunk> hmm
[2:31] <th0r> there are lots of sites with examples of firewall rules, etc
[2:31] <unitypunk> so, now i added the lines into /etc/iptables.ipv4.nat
[2:32] <unitypunk> do i need to reboot or somthing, or does it go right into action
[2:33] <th0r> I think they take effect immediately. but you lose them all at reboot. to keep them, look at iptables-save, and iptables-persistent
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[2:33] <th0r> those, I think, have to be installed, they aren't there by default.
[2:33] <unitypunk> all iptables-save does is save is if you use iptable commands ya? i just used nano to edit the file directly, is that not good? lol
[2:34] <th0r> what file?
[2:34] <unitypunk> just seemed like it was more direct
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[2:35] <unitypunk> dis one it made for me the first time through that guide /etc/iptables.ipv4.nat
[2:35] <th0r> oh...i see...not sure if that file is loaded at boot. it has been so long i don't remember exactly how i set it up
[2:36] <unitypunk> it is already at boot with the other rules
[2:37] <th0r> that file is probably loaded at boot. but you can add the rules at the command line as well, and those take effect immediately.
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[2:38] <th0r> might be a good idea to add from the cli and run the new rule a while before adding it to boot...just in case it breaks something
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[3:08] <wonddd> can anyone translate this issue into a more noob friendly language? I got this drive and I'm thinking about getting a rpi but there seems to be some sort of compability issue?
[3:08] <wonddd> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=146792&p=966531
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[3:20] <wonddd> anyone?
[3:22] <Gr33n3gg> wonddd: looks like only root and read and write to the NAS
[3:22] <wonddd> what does that mean exactly? I'm a noob
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[3:23] <Gr33n3gg> only the user root can make changes to the disk, your own user cannot do anything
[3:23] <Gr33n3gg> so that NAS will work judging by that forum post
[3:24] <wonddd> thank you so much for trying to help me! But I still don't quite get it. I am the only user of the NAS and will be the only user of the rpi. Who's the "user root"?
[3:25] <Gr33n3gg> the root user is the administrator of the system, the root user can do anything like delete special system files. you, as a normal user, do not have the permission to do everything
[3:26] <Gr33n3gg> so you can mount that NAS under raspbian, but you just have to use the "root" user to do anything on the disk. more of a hassle than anything
[3:27] <wonddd> So it would still work? As long as I do things as the root user?
[3:34] <wonddd> I assume that's the case
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[3:36] <wonddd> thx for the help Gr33n3gg !
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[7:12] <Drakeling> Hey, i asked yesterday about keyboard layout in raspbian jessie with pixel. I've found solution.
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[7:14] <Drakeling> open ~.config/lxpanel/LXDE-pi/panels/panel and find these lines
[7:14] <Drakeling> Plugin {
[7:14] <Drakeling> type=xkb
[7:14] <Drakeling> Config {
[7:14] <Drakeling> Model=pc105
[7:14] <Drakeling> LayoutsList=us,ru
[7:14] <Drakeling> VariantsList=,
[7:14] <Drakeling> ToggleOpt=grp:alt_shift_toggle
[7:14] <Drakeling> KeepSysLayouts=0
[7:14] <Drakeling> } add new layouts and KeepSysLayouts=0
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[8:43] <drjam> well that was fun, just learned a little about OLEDs and using SSD1306
[8:43] <drjam> wish some stuff was explained for noobs on websites that are explaining what to do
[8:43] <drjam> couldnt get this python code to display on an the OLED for HOURS.... ive used seveal ones
[8:44] <drjam> finally, i commented out lines and just waited to see what it started to work
[8:44] <drjam> so.... paths to fonts need to be explcity named or copy the font to the same dir as the script
[8:45] <drjam> cause the error messages are as horribly useless as windows in some cases lol
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[10:33] <Raspberry> hello
[10:34] <Raspberry> i have make the new update
[10:34] <Raspberry> what have change the update?
[10:34] <drjam> um
[10:34] <drjam> do you want to do the update?
[10:35] <Raspberry> ??
[10:36] <Raspberry> yes i have make the new update
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[10:37] <drjam> ok cool. did you mean, what has "changed" in the update?
[10:37] <localh0s7> Hey guys
[10:38] <drjam> nice name
[10:38] <Raspberry> yes sorry my english is not so good i try to learn better
[10:38] <drjam> you did ok Raspberry
[10:38] <Raspberry> ok
[10:38] <Raspberry> :)
[10:39] <Raspberry> which operating system do you have drjam
[10:39] <drjam> raspbian "jessie"
[10:39] <drjam> trying to learn python
[10:39] <localh0s7> I am having problem with my pi. My android phone is not showing up on the pi i have tried dmesg but it still doesn't show up
[10:39] <Raspberry> have you do the upgrade to pixel
[10:40] <Raspberry> what is your problem what doesnt work
[10:40] <drjam> yeah, i always do update and upgrade
[10:40] <Raspberry> i like the new desktop
[10:40] <drjam> i have no idea what is different tho....i only started playing with raspberry 1 month ago
[10:40] <Raspberry> which model have you
[10:41] <localh0s7> Any idea....
[10:41] <drjam> pi3
[10:41] <drjam> localh0s7, nfi man. im not even sure what you are doing lol
[10:41] <Raspberry> i have 3b and i have make a active cooling system
[10:42] <Raspberry> which bluetooth have your phone i need more information to help you
[10:42] <localh0s7> Just asking question
[10:42] <Raspberry> which phone do you have? localh0s7
[10:44] <Raspberry> hello ???
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[10:47] <Raspberry> ok
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[10:48] <Raspberry> do you like python
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[11:00] <unitypunk> yo so.
[11:00] <[ITN]Le_Chat> hi
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[11:01] <unitypunk> what is that new pixel splash screen.
[11:01] <unitypunk> i run my pi headless mostly, and just noticed that when i upgraded to jessie a while ago it appeared
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[11:02] <unitypunk> im sure its irrelevant to me as it hasnt affected me in any way, just wonderin.
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[11:08] <[ITN]Le_Chat> I've a problem when I want to connect in ssh to my raspberry pi : "ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.10 port 22: Connection refused"
[11:08] <[ITN]Le_Chat> Can you help me ?
[11:10] <drjam> have you ever connected via SSH to that device before, [ITN]Le_Chat
[11:11] <[ITN]Le_Chat> yes. But I've reinstalled it.
[11:11] <[ITN]Le_Chat> I've reinstalled Raspbian.
[11:12] <[ITN]Le_Chat> But I begin in ssh...
[11:12] <drjam> ah, you need to re-enable SSH
[11:13] <[ITN]Le_Chat> I can't do that from another computer ?
[11:13] <unitypunk> hmm probably not.
[11:14] <unitypunk> its probably disabled by default for what should be obvious security reasons.
[11:14] <[ITN]Le_Chat> ok, Thanks for your help.
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[11:14] <unitypunk> i recall jessie asking me during install or first boot aobut wether or not i wanted ssh to run.
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[11:14] <[ITN]Le_Chat> I will try to enable it manually.
[11:15] <[ITN]Le_Chat> Thank you.
[11:15] <unitypunk> [ITN]Le_Chat, Enter sudo raspi-config in the terminal, first select advanced options , then navigate to ssh , press Enter and select Enable or disable ssh server . For headless setup, SSH can be enabled by placing a file named 'ssh', without any extension, onto the boot partition of the SD card.
[11:15] <unitypunk> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/
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[11:16] <unitypunk> id suggest trying the raspi-config method first
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[11:19] <drjam> raspi-config...... that will work
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[11:19] <drjam> but yeah, so far i have always connected a kb and screen to my pi's on boot
[11:19] <drjam> config them.... and then go headless
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[11:20] <unitypunk> it says something about the file in the boot partition of the pi.
[11:20] <unitypunk> so you could do it before first boot id imagine.
[11:20] <unitypunk> interesting to me.
[11:21] <drjam> i recall that... s simple text file
[11:21] <unitypunk> blank even.
[11:21] <unitypunk> :D
[11:21] <unitypunk> i giveee
[11:21] <unitypunk> damn thing.
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[11:31] <madsj> I'm loosing my mind over an SD card and how to install raspbian on it. I use "sudo gparted /dev/sdb", create a partition table, and two partitions (one boot, and one normal, both ext4), "sudo dd bs=64M if=raspbian.img of=/dev/sdb", but afterwards the changes don't seem to be effectuated :(
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[11:44] <HerculeP> [ITN]Le_Chat: b4 first boot you have to put a file named ssh in the /boot partition
[11:45] <HerculeP> new security measure
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[11:47] <HerculeP> see https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/
[11:50] <HerculeP> madsj: the gparted step doesnt seem to be needed, dd /should/ create both partitions automagically
[11:51] <jamesl> is the login method for PIXEL different to the one used on the command line? I am using pam_mount and it works fine on the CLI, the directory on the remote server is mounted and I can login. When I try on PIXEL, the directory gets mounted successfully but I cannot login, the screen goes blank then returns to the login screen. What is cauing this and is there a log somewhere I should read? I looked at auth.log but it didn't help me. Thanks
[11:52] <drjam> sorry i use windows and win32 disk imager
[11:52] <HerculeP> win32 disk imager also creates both partitions
[11:52] <jamesl> win32 disk imager still auto-creates both partitions. I have used it multiple times, all I needed to do was click "write" then put the sd card in the Pi
[11:53] <drjam> im very much a fan of click....come back in 10 mins and im done
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[12:31] <madsj> HerculeP: I'm loosing my mind why this stuff happens
[12:33] <madsj> and I've also experienced no space left on device on a new 16G SD card
[12:34] <madsj> while doing the dd-operation
[12:34] <HerculeP> latest raspbian expands the card on first use
[12:34] <madsj> Good.
[12:35] <HerculeP> oh, already on dd
[12:35] <HerculeP> some sd cards have a slighter lower size (due to marked bad sectors etc)
[12:36] <HerculeP> slightly*
[12:36] <madsj> I have another SD card, and when I delete files on it, they reappear when I mount it again.
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[12:38] <HerculeP> dd if=img of=sdx doesnt care about files
[12:38] <HerculeP> neither does win32imager
[12:39] <madsj> I think I'll try on a Windows machine tomorrow.
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[12:41] <HerculeP> if you have a working raspbian you can also use the sdcard copier (GUI), then do an update, dist-upgrade etc
[12:41] <drjam> this will sound crapola but.... windows does have some uses
[12:41] <drjam> win32 disk imager is one of them
[12:42] <HerculeP> sdcard copier can even copy to smaller sd cards
[12:42] <HerculeP> win32 disk imager generally works well
[12:43] <HerculeP> (at least for me it does)
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[12:44] <madsj> I break my balls over this
[12:44] <drjam> keep some bandaids nearby then
[12:45] <drjam> cant have balls broken all over the nice carpet
[12:45] <teclo-> heh
[12:45] <teclo-> that must hurt
[12:45] <teclo-> broken balls
[12:45] <teclo-> over the carpet
[12:46] <madsj> I think the expression is quite common in Ireland, an Irish guy kept saying this.
[12:46] <teclo-> especially since it's Christmas
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[12:46] <teclo-> it's gonna be very... inappropriate to have your balls broken on the carpet when the whole family is visiting
[12:47] <unitypunk> actually kinda seems normal if you have a dog around the tree.
[12:47] <unitypunk> yikes, 5 am almost.
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[12:49] <drjam> lol
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[17:42] <notus3r> Hello, i am trying to set a static ip at my raspberry pi on the wlan0 interface. The dhcp setup is working but the static setup not. Can someone help me?
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[17:44] <notus3r> Can someone help me?
[17:44] <Fjorgynn> to be rich?
[17:45] <Fjorgynn> notus3r: how do you try to do that?
[17:45] <notus3r> should i post the /etc/network/interface file?
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[17:46] <notus3r> http://pastebin.com/8cJu4tRi
[17:46] <notus3r> Thats the wlan0 part
[17:47] <notus3r> And this works for dhcp http://pastebin.com/76yvfWMH
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[17:53] <notus4r> Hello i am notus3r but if i Plugin my raspberry pi i loose the inet connection :
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[17:55] <notus4r> Noone can help me?
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[18:28] <GekkePrutser> notus4r: You don't have a 'dns-nameservers' line so it could be you don't have DNS resolution
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[18:41] <notus4r> But DHCP is working without it
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[18:56] <GekkePrutser> Yeah because DHCP gives you the DNS
[18:57] <GekkePrutser> Just put dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[18:57] <GekkePrutser> It may not be the only reason it's not working but I don't think DNS resolution will work without it
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[19:05] <notus4r> Ok i will try it
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[19:16] <notus4r> Its not working
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[19:54] <GekkePrutser> Did you try running ifconfig?
[19:54] <GekkePrutser> You should be able to see what it's assigned
[19:54] <GekkePrutser> The config looks good, strange enough
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[20:33] <samthebreadman> Hey, so will this cable work with my Raspberry Pi B+? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A3VSV92
[20:34] <scoofy> no?
[20:34] <scoofy> where'd you plug it>?
[20:34] <samthebreadman> y
[20:35] <scoofy> B+ doesn't have such 3.5mm output
[20:35] <samthebreadman> scoofy: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz58iLCWQAAmKml.jpg:large
[20:35] <scoofy> isn't that just a stereo audio jack?
[20:36] <samthebreadman> no
[20:36] <scoofy> hmm you're right it says 'RCA composite video output (through the 3.5 mm jack)'
[20:36] <scoofy> then, possibly, yes
[20:37] <scoofy> it was the model A that doesn't have this, but audio only
[20:37] <samthebreadman> ah
[20:37] <samthebreadman> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/
[20:38] <samthebreadman> says I miiiight have to swap the cables around a bit
[20:38] <samthebreadman> but this should work. :)
[20:38] <scoofy> you can swap the rca plugs...
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[20:42] <samthebreadman> heres my wiring for my super famicom raspberry pi system: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz5uvZWXAAAMGKh.jpg:large
[20:42] <samthebreadman> thoughts?
[20:42] <samthebreadman> no specifics or anything. just how it should work
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[21:45] <niklas_e> should you get a menu when you install postfix? Don't seem to get the menu to setup to internet sites
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[23:03] <niklas_e> if postfix doesn't open port 25,where do I check what can be wrong?
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[23:20] <hello1> Hi e
[23:21] <hello1> anyone know why I would not be able to ping or ssh to my raspberry pi 3
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[23:58] <Pyjong> hi anyone still up?
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[23:58] <Pyjong> does raspbian have ssh enabled by default?

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