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IRC Log for 2017-01-01

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[2:03] <mete> phryk: you can add /boot/ssh file then it will be enabled after next reboot
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[2:25] <redrabbit> how can i disable automatic partition resize to full card capacity on first boot ?
[2:29] <redrabbit> found it
[2:29] <redrabbit> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/47773/disable-auto-file-system-expansion-in-new-jessie-image-2016-05-10
[2:29] <redrabbit> ^^
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[5:56] <Byrd> Anyone on with GPIO experience?
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[6:19] <Byrd> Anyone on with GPIO experience?
[6:35] <chisight> might need to be more specific Byrd
[6:36] <Byrd> I am trying to turn an LED off. It is wired to GPIO pin 17 or physical pin 11. The LED is on currently but i cannot get it to turn off.
[6:36] <Byrd> I have looked at gpio readall but it doesn't seem to change with any of my commands. I've tried running the commands with sudo but still nothing
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[6:58] <Byrd> I am trying to turn an LED off. It is wired to GPIO pin 17 or physical pin 11. The LED is on currently but i cannot get it to turn off.
[6:58] <Byrd> I have looked at gpio readall but it doesn't seem to change with any of my commands. I've tried running the commands with sudo but still nothing
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[8:20] <Byrd> I am trying to turn an LED off. It is wired to GPIO pin 17 or physical pin 11. The LED is on currently but i cannot get it to turn off.
[8:20] <Byrd> I have looked at gpio readall but it doesn't seem to change with any of my commands. I've tried running the commands with sudo but still nothing
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[12:25] <Stagen> hey guys, anyone know of a way to set up a surviellance camera network using a smartphone camera and a Pi 3?
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[12:50] <rawtaz> Stagen: there's a camera module for the pi, why not use that?
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[12:56] <Stagen> hey rawtaz thanks for replying, the smart phone can be wireless and has image enhancing, also I have a phone lying around so I thought it would be perfect
[12:58] <rawtaz> Stagen: the pi can be wireless :D but yeah, i guess there are better cameras than the pi one. and it's in true hacking spirit that the question is asked, i can tell :)
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[13:34] <Stagen> @rawtaz i was thinking that the pi would be in a separate location from the camera so I can place maybe multiple cameras or store one outside, dont want to risk the pi in the wet
[13:45] <rawtaz> sure :)
[13:46] <rawtaz> well i have no idea, i suppose youd need some kind of app on the phone for it though.
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[13:48] <tehcha> sorry to ask this question for obvious reasons: whcih folder do i need to create a file or folder (ithink.ssh) in to enable ssh from desktop tinto rapbian?
[13:51] <rawtaz> tehcha: uh ,isnt ssh enabled by default?
[13:51] <rawtaz> tehcha: can you ping the pi ?
[13:52] <tehcha> yes i can
[13:52] <tehcha> via nmap
[13:52] <tehcha> if i do a ping scan i can do the rpi
[13:52] <rawtaz> you dont ping via nmap dude, you ping via `ping`
[13:52] <rawtaz> just ping it - do you get a reply?
[13:53] <rawtaz> i se, they changed the default ssh configuration
[13:53] <tehcha> no
[13:53] <tehcha> it is saying general error repeatedly
[13:53] <rawtaz> tehcha: then that is a problem, you should get a pong from it
[13:53] <rawtaz> tehcha: then you have other problems to solve before you try to ssh
[13:53] <rawtaz> tehcha: that said, see https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/
[13:54] <tehcha> 4 packages sent none received 4 lost
[13:54] <rawtaz> that is, if you have a current version of raspbian :)
[13:54] <tehcha> thank you friend
[13:54] <rawtaz> np
[13:54] <tehcha> yes rpi3b if that is current
[13:54] <rawtaz> so you can enable ssh both by terminal and by adding a file named "ssh" into the root of the boot partition on the sd card
[13:54] <rawtaz> nice
[13:55] <tehcha> ok thank you
[13:55] <tehcha> just a file?
[13:55] <tehcha> and not a folder?
[13:55] <rawtaz> tehcha: read the text on the page i linked you to, it's very clear
[13:55] <tehcha> ok thanks again i addeda folder and was panicing when it didnt work
[13:55] <tehcha> ty
[13:55] <rawtaz> yw :)
[13:57] <tehcha> rawtaz→ can i ask you a potentially sily question?
[13:57] <rawtaz> i dont know, it depends on how embarassed i will feel :P
[13:57] <tehcha> all the files inmy root dfolder had pulse as the owner
[13:57] <tehcha> is it possibel that the user pulse onirc took over my rpi and left this so i would know he was there?
[13:58] <tehcha> did someoen hack into it or is the user pulse something that is raspbian internal liek SYSTEm is on win
[13:58] <rawtaz> tehcha: i doubt it, even though theoretically it is possible, lol.
[13:58] <tehcha> if that makes sense
[13:58] <tehcha> i deleeed my ste up rpi
[13:58] <tehcha> since i suddenly lost all access
[13:58] <rawtaz> tehcha: where are you looking when you see this pulse - what command are you running and in what computer/OS/terminal?
[13:58] <tehcha> i created keypairs and the keyp air authenticaitonisntalled webmin and many more
[13:58] <rawtaz> well you can always reinstall the thing if you want to get a clean start :)
[13:59] <tehcha> i went into the root folder and made ls -lR
[13:59] <tehcha> or th eother way around
[13:59] <tehcha> that is what i am doing but now i am worried my system is corrupted or my rpi broken
[13:59] <NoCode> I just copied the img over to SD card with dd, out the "ssh" file in /hoot. Does the file need to be executable?
[13:59] <tehcha> or something on the hardware sie like a cable
[14:00] <NoCode> out = put
[14:00] <NoCode> I'm getting "connection refused" while trying to ssh into the rpi
[14:00] <tehcha> rawtaz→ well thanks rawtaz i am releived that i ws not hacked
[14:01] <rawtaz> tehcha: well i cant elp you if you dont answer my questions, but glad you dont feel hacked
[14:02] <rawtaz> NoCode: you shouldnt put the ssh file in the /root folder of the system that you are dding the image to the SD card from, unless you mounted the SD card in the /root partition (which i doubt). you should put a file named ssh in the root of the sd card/image, so that if you mount the sd card, you should see that file at the very top of the filesystem on that sd card
[14:03] <NoCode> oh okay!
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[14:04] <rawtaz> NoCode: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/
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[14:11] <tehcha> rawtaz i would like to automate the setting up of a raspbian server with all the bells and whistles liek say apachen webserver with bash scripts
[14:11] <rawtaz> try ansible or salt
[14:12] <tehcha> ansible or salt?
[14:12] <rawtaz> yrs
[14:12] <rawtaz> yes*
[14:13] <NoCode> Excellent, it worked. :D
[14:14] <NoCode> Don't have to fuss around with HDMI cable and keyboard again. \o/
[14:14] <rawtaz> yeah
[14:14] <NoCode> Thanks for the help
[14:14] <rawtaz> headless ftw
[14:14] <rawtaz> yw
[14:15] <NoCode> I doxed myself the other day, I was running a thing, was told to copy some debug info but I did a cat on the file they wanted to help me with, and they messaged me that a password was in base64 and then proceeded to give me my own password after the decode. :D
[14:16] <rawtaz> lol
[14:16] <rawtaz> what was the password stored for, and why in base64?
[14:16] <NoCode> Supybot...
[14:17] <rawtaz> aha
[14:18] <NoCode> They were at least nice enough to send me a message stating so. :D
[14:18] <rawtaz> ya
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[14:26] <tehcha> even headless chicken still run
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[15:17] <NoCode> What kind of pi should I buy if I only want to run a wiki on it with apache or nginx, locally? I just want to use the wiki as reference for configurations, etc.. Just have a separate configured system that would be unaffected by other systems going down. (ridding the volatility)
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[15:24] <r3> a Pi 2 is working fine for me for a light-use webserver with apache
[15:28] <NoCode> r3, Nice, are you using a database on there too? Like a flat-file database?
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[15:35] <tehcha> r3 which model woudl you recomend for ea heavy-use webserver?
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[15:39] <r3> not a Pi
[15:40] <r3> It sorta comes down to the fact that it runs on an SD card that may or may not survive a lot of small reads and writes that databases tend to do. I *think* that I turned off a lot of those in the OS, but one can never be sure if one gets all the settings
[15:41] <r3> so, NoCode, no, I'm not really using a database on there, unless you can count some things that rddtool does
[15:42] <NoCode> ah kk
[15:42] <r3> in my mind, a heavy-use webserver is something that is going to be quite busy and you would want something that does multi-threading and have more than a single network connection. Just not what I would use any Raspberry Pi for. Unless your definition of heavy-use differs from mine...
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[15:44] <r3> I would think that a wiki for a couple of users with a few reads/writes per day would be fine on a Pi 2. I would just be sure to back up any data off the device
[15:48] <NoCode> Yeah it's mainly just for self-reference. Just a wiki that I want to reference when I need to document a setup of commands, or document steps in progress. Can't remember the slightest thing, so I need to document everything worth documenting to make things a lot less stressful.
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[15:59] <rawtaz> NoCode: the cheapest possible :) that said, you can just keep the wiki on a free instance on AWS for all its worth
[15:59] <rawtaz> personally i would have a wiki for that purpos locally on my laptop, i dont see the need for putting it on another node that might fail
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[16:55] <NoCode> rawtaz, hmm, never knew AWS had free attached to it. :P
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[16:59] <rawtaz> hehe
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[20:29] <mete> NoCode use onenote for your wiki ;)
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[21:01] <OrdinaryName> hi, in the cmdlist.txt file do I put the pi's IP address at the *very* end of the file if I'm trying to connect headless?
[21:01] <rawtaz> yeah that works
[21:02] <OrdinaryName> thanks. looking at tutorials on youtube, their cmdlist.txt looked different, and they always put it after "rootwait"
[21:03] <rawtaz> i add the following as the last thing: ip=theIpAddress
[21:03] <rawtaz> on that one line
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[21:03] <rawtaz> honestly i dont think it matters, but i could be wrong
[21:03] <rawtaz> im assuming there's many different directives in that one line, so the order probably isnt super important as long as theyre individually coherent
[21:03] <tehcha> in the folder .ssh i created, there are two folders called '.' and '..' both hidden, so there names are '' and '.' really, the second one is owned by root and prevents my setting up of keypair authentification
[21:03] <tehcha> what do?
[21:04] <rawtaz> tehcha: the . and .. are special folders meaning the current folder and the parent folder.
[21:05] <rawtaz> tehcha: the .. one is the parent one and that sounds reasonable to be owned by root, but its not there that you should add your ssh stuff, you should add that to the current folder
[21:05] <rawtaz> just go into your .ssh folder, and there you add your files - you dont have to bother or care about the . and .. ones
[21:05] <rawtaz> this is a regular linux/unix thing btw, it is not specific to raspberry in any way
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[21:19] <cipher6> HELP ME
[21:19] <cipher6> PLEASE GOD BeFORE I LOSE MY MIND Lol
[21:19] <cipher6> just kidding, Happy New Year all!
[21:19] <cipher6> Anyone have a moment to help a person familiar with linux but not PI?
[21:23] <rawtaz> lol
[21:23] <rawtaz> cipher6: noone knows - ask your question and we'll see if anyone has the time and ability
[21:24] <cipher6> Awesome, rawtaz, The issue is that I have downloaded the most recent Raspbian image and Lxterminal can not launch after sudo startx,
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[21:24] <rawtaz> i dont know lxterminal :<
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[21:25] <cipher6> lxterminal is just the built in terminal program,
[21:25] <rawtaz> mhm
[21:25] <ChocolateTeapot> sudo startx ?!
[21:25] <cipher6> if you were looking at the gui desktop, and clicked the little black box with the <
[21:25] <rawtaz> oh, i see
[21:25] <cipher6> @ChocolateTeapot So, for some reason, sudo raspi-config is not keeping any of my boot up options,
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[21:26] <cipher6> even though Startx is installed,
[21:26] <cipher6> it goes to pi@raspberrypi:~$ instead of the gui desktop
[21:26] <cipher6> everytime
[21:26] <cipher6> so, I run sudo startx
[21:26] <rawtaz> did you save the settigs after configuring? :P
[21:26] <cipher6> Yeah, i mean, I hit <OK>
[21:27] <cipher6> let me rewind i guess,
[21:27] <cipher6> here's my steps,
[21:27] <cipher6> copy the file to the sd card, boot the pi,
[21:27] <cipher6> pi runs,
[21:27] <cipher6> takes me to pi@raspberrypi:~$
[21:27] <cipher6> I put in sudo raspi-config
[21:27] <cipher6> choose extend file system, and reboot,
[21:27] <cipher6> takes me back to ~$,
[21:28] <cipher6> I put in raspi-config, chose "localization" options, and none of them work,
[21:28] <cipher6> they all fail,
[21:28] <cipher6> so i skipped that, went into the boot options, and set to boot to the desktop,
[21:28] <cipher6> reboot using shutdown -r now
[21:28] <cipher6> reboots into the command line at pi@raspberrypi:~$
[21:28] <cipher6> run sudo startx
[21:29] <cipher6> Pixel loads,
[21:29] <cipher6> terminal emulator won't load
[21:30] <ChocolateTeapot> i just have jessie-lite i'm afraid, i don't have pixel
[21:31] <cipher6> well poo
[21:31] <ChocolateTeapot> i don't think its normal to run the desktop as root though
[21:33] <cipher6> even without runnning it as root, the lxterminal won't run
[21:33] <cipher6> after startx
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[21:35] <ChocolateTeapot> i'm scratching my head i'm afraid
[21:36] <cipher6> well i have been as well, for like the last 12 hrs
[21:36] <ChocolateTeapot> is it possible the filesystem resizing didn't complete ?
[21:36] <cipher6> no, running df-h shows that it's good
[21:36] <ChocolateTeapot> oh, you can use the console prompt ?
[21:36] <rawtaz> cipher6: have you tried reinstalling just for kicks?
[21:37] <cipher6> yeah so as long as I DON'T launch the gui, i can run anything I want from the command line,
[21:37] <cipher6> rawtaz: yeah, I'm actually re-downloading the image now, and gonna sha1 it just to verify
[21:38] <cipher6> ChocolateTeapot: However, sudo apt-get update failed, so I had to "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/status && sudo touch /var/lib/dpkg/status" then run update&upgrade
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[21:39] <rawtaz> i never had these type of problems
[21:39] <rawtaz> updating works, resizing works, localization works
[21:39] <rawtaz> havent used x though
[21:39] <cipher6> rawtaz: well lah dee dah, aren't you special
[21:39] <cipher6> jk jk
[21:39] <rawtaz> but like if apt-get update doesnt work theres something screwed up
[21:39] <cipher6> do you use the Pixel desktop?
[21:39] <rawtaz> hehee
[21:39] <rawtaz> no
[21:39] <cipher6> Hmm, Does anyone use the Pixel desktop?!
[21:39] * cipher6 bangs head on keyboard
[21:40] <rawtaz> maybe the release your using has bugs
[21:40] <rawtaz> +e
[21:40] <cipher6> here's the even crazier thing, I downloaded Kali's ARM image for RP3 and it runs amazingly, just needed to tweak a few things to add bluetooth daemons,
[21:40] <tehcha> rawtaz→ hi freind; server refused our key and i changed the $HOME/.ssh/authenti_keys to chmod 600 and the folder itself to chmod 700 and i owned all of it like so: chown me:me /.ssh/authentic_keys
[21:41] <cipher6> +e?
[21:41] <tehcha> rawtaz→ friend, do you have any idea what else could be keeping my authentication from working?
[21:42] <rawtaz> tehcha: well yeah it should be authorized_keys for the filename
[21:42] <tehcha> yes that is what they are actually called
[21:42] <rawtaz> and that is a file you have on the server that you are SSHing *into*
[21:43] <rawtaz> tehcha: yeah, so dont write something else to avoid confusion
[21:43] <tehcha> but i got it mixed up becasue i got
[21:43] <rawtaz> cipher6: s/your/youre/
[21:46] <ChocolateTeapot> isn't it authorized_keys ?
[21:46] <tehcha> whatever it is i te it corectly on my server
[21:46] <tehcha> my rpi server
[21:47] <rawtaz> what?
[21:47] <tehcha> ChocolateTeapot→ do you know what may or may not be wrong after one has given the appropriate ermissions in this case?
[21:47] <rawtaz> please rephrase
[21:47] <ChocolateTeapot> :P
[21:47] <rawtaz> tehcha: you are not being specific enough. if you have a problem, explain the exact symptoms and exactly what you did
[21:47] <ChocolateTeapot> what did you put there ?
[21:47] <rawtaz> we cant read your mind
[21:47] <tehcha> i gave the proper permissions and own the /.ssh -r
[21:48] <rawtaz> great. and what is the actual symptoms of the problem?
[21:48] <tehcha> do you know what else might keep the error message "server refused our key"
[21:48] <rawtaz> misconfiguration or the server not being configured to accept key based authentication
[21:48] <tehcha> the symptoom is that i cannot facilitate kyp air authorizaiton
[21:49] <tehcha> ty
[21:49] <rawtaz> tehcha: what do you have in your .ssh folder on your client, and what do you have in your .ssh folder on the server?
[21:49] <tehcha> i am using putty on windows as a client as i cannot get it to work on my linux
[21:50] <tehcha> and i dont know if i have a ssh folder there
[21:50] <tehcha> and in the serce folder isnothing but authorized_keys
[21:50] <rawtaz> lets start on the server then; what do you have in your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
[21:51] <tehcha> the public key but of course modified to fit int with the apropriate format
[21:51] <rawtaz> and also, is the ~/.ssh folder and the file readable by the ssh daemon?
[21:51] <tehcha> i start with ssh-rsa
[21:51] <tehcha> then a space
[21:51] <rawtaz> ok
[21:51] <tehcha> the key in one line and then after the ocmment
[21:51] <tehcha> preceeded by double =
[21:52] <rawtaz> i never use putty but i guess it might be something on that side then, how are you telling it to provide the key?
[21:52] <rawtaz> you really should try from a real machine, i.e. linux, unix or similar, instead of that pesky windows crap that you need a ton of additional software to debug
[21:52] <tehcha> then the software has a dialog that allws you to give the path to the private key file
[21:53] <rawtaz> mhm
[21:53] <tehcha> rawtaz→ i tried coutnless tiems form my linux /gnu machine but it just wont do the ssh
[21:53] <rawtaz> can you turn on verbose mode in putty so you get a more specific error message?
[21:53] <tehcha> i assume it is the routing
[21:53] <tehcha> oh ok thank you
[21:53] <rawtaz> tehcha: well its WAY easier to debug this on the linux machine, so i suggest you do it there instead ;)
[21:53] <rawtaz> oh, i see. fix the routing then :D
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[21:55] <rawtaz> i just dont know regading putty anyway, i rarely use it so..
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[23:50] <Rakko> I'd like to change my Pi to use Raspbian testing, but I'm confused about whether I should be modifying sources.list or adding something to sources.list.d. Also, the domains used in those two places differ; I'm not sure which one to use. Any advice?
[23:59] <Rakko> OK, I see that sources.list lists the repositories main contrib non-free rpi
[23:59] <Rakko> whereas sources.list.d/raspi.list lists main ui
[23:59] <Rakko> the former's base URL is http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/; the latter's is http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/

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