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[0:05] <ChocolateTeapot> effectively sources.list file or something ending in .list in sources.list.d is the same thing
[0:06] <ChocolateTeapot> second one is preferred for modifications tho
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[0:08] <ChocolateTeapot> whether the two repositories have compatible testing archives is another question altogether
[0:08] <Rakko> ok, so if I want to replace jessie with testing I can do it in ...d/*.list and it will override sources.list
[0:08] <Rakko> ?
[0:08] <ChocolateTeapot> umm, no
[0:08] <Rakko> I tried to just do a straight replacement in both places, but got:
[0:08] <Rakko> wally_: Failed to fetch http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/dists/testing/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 2a00:1098:0:80:1000:13:0:8 80]
[0:09] <Rakko> oops. "wally_" should say W:
[0:09] <Rakko> (I've never had this client complete nicknames in pasted stuff like that)
[0:09] <ChocolateTeapot> oh funny
[0:09] <ChocolateTeapot> probably that one doesn't have a testing repo
[0:11] <ChocolateTeapot> there must be a post about this somewhere
[0:11] <Rakko> I'm having trouble googling it. Is it just not matter of course for Pi users to use anything but stable?
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[0:15] <Rakko> ok, googling for "stretch" works better
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[0:18] <ChocolateTeapot> was looking at the archive http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/dists/
[0:18] <ChocolateTeapot> they have no testing but they have something called staging
[0:20] <Geoton> Hello Everybody!
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[0:31] <Rakko> thanks, ChocolateTeapot
[0:31] <Rakko> hi Geoton
[0:32] <Rakko> http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/testing/ exists
[0:33] <Rakko> but I don't know the difference between mirrordirector.raspbian.org and archive.raspberrypi.org
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[0:37] <Rakko> it *seems* like I can do it just by changing sources.list.d/raspi.list to use "testing"
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[0:49] <devslash> my raspbian install wasnt shut down cleanly and boots into emergency mode. how do i fix it
[0:49] <devslash> i tried fsck but it didnt fix it
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[1:14] <tehcha> i made sure all my permissions for /.ssh and for /.ssh/authorized_keys are correct. but i still cannot log in with keypairauthorization
[1:14] <tehcha> what else coudl be wrong that might keep me from preventing me from loging in like such
[1:16] <devslash> when i try to boot rasp4bian it goes into emergency mode and says root account is locked. i did fsck /dev/mmcblk0p1 and prompts me to remove dirty bit but then says file system unchanged. how do i fix this ?
[1:17] <devslash> i also tried fsck -v -a -w -r but it doesnt fix the problem
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[1:20] <Rakko> tehcha: do you have PubkeyAuthentication yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[1:20] <tehcha> rakko no i dont thank you dearly!!!!
[1:20] <devslash> rakko can you help me out
[1:20] <Rakko> np!
[1:20] <tehcha> happy 2017, Rakko !!
[1:20] <Rakko> devslash: I don't know how to deal with your problem, sorry :(
[1:20] <Rakko> you too, tehcha :)
[1:21] <tehcha> ty!
[1:22] <cipher6> Anyone new in this that has experience with pixel?
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[1:25] <tehcha> Rakko→ sorry the pubkeyauth was already active
[1:25] <tehcha> :S
[1:25] <Rakko> oh... hmm. You're sure the right public key is in authorized_keys?
[1:26] <Rakko> devslash: I seem to recall that SD cards are more prone to serious corruption than other types of mass storage, if things don't get shut down just right
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[1:26] <devslash> its happened before but fsck fixed it
[1:26] <Rakko> devslash: hopefully you haven't totally lost the card, but I don't know
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[1:28] <Rakko> tehcha: on the other end, use ssh -v ... to see all the debugging stuff about what methods it's using and whether it's rejecting any
[1:28] <tehcha> Rakko→ i checked the publick keys in authkeys thrice it seems to be in order
[1:28] <tehcha> rakko i am using putty on windows
[1:29] <tehcha> the ssh from my gnu/linux wont even work
[1:29] <Rakko> ohhh... I'm sure that has debugging info somehow too
[1:29] <tehcha> ok thank you
[1:31] <tehcha> offering public key
[1:31] <tehcha> server refused pour key
[1:31] <tehcha> and before that details about handshakes and how the pirvate key was read in
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[1:36] <Rakko> and you have it in the right format?
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[1:37] <Rakko> ssh-rsa AAAAB3... comment-string
[1:37] <tehcha> yes
[1:38] <tehcha> ssh-rsa space string (one line) double = and then another space and a comment
[1:39] <tehcha> i just gonna try and delete the .ssh again and remake the files i got the impression that the permissions are not inorder even though they do apear so , this hidden folders thing seems to mess with the usual ability to play with the permissions
[1:39] <Rakko> ls -ld ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[1:40] <Rakko> should show drwx------ and -rw-r--r--
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[1:45] <tehcha> rakko that did the trick→detroyign the .ssh folder
[1:45] <tehcha> and then recreating it
[1:46] <tehcha> the folder adn the files were shown as belonging to the user 'me' but somewerhe below the hood somehting didnt change properly
[1:46] <tehcha> so recreating those through user me solved the problem
[1:46] <tehcha> :S
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[1:50] <Rakko> ohhh
[1:50] <Rakko> good
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[2:04] <cipher6> Rakko: Any other raspbian channels ya'll know of that might could lend a hand?
[2:08] <tehcha> #debian
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[2:27] <tehcha> Rakko→ may i aks a final vey last and utterly ultimate question?
[2:28] <tehcha> Rakko→ i am trying to give my rpi 3 b a static ip via the network/interfaces file but my configuration changes didnt seem to take effect
[2:28] <tehcha> is there a better way to change from dchp to static ip?
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[3:32] <tehcha> can i create a backup of a rpi raspbian that leaves me with an *.img file?
[3:36] <Rakko> sorry, tehcha. I forgot to log off when I left the house.
[3:36] <Rakko> the other channel I know of to try is #raspberrypi
[3:37] <Rakko> I'm not up on current network config stuff, but I know network/interfaces is old-fashioned. nowadays NetworkManager is encouraged (at least on Ubuntu; sorry if I'm assuming wrongly about *bian)
[3:38] <Rakko> the command-line tool using that interface is called nmcli
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[3:41] <Rakko> and yeah, you can image a raspbian card
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[3:41] <Rakko> try http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-operating-systems/win32diskimager in windows
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[3:42] <Rakko> except read the image instead of writing one. (I think that's possible. I hope.)
[3:42] <Rakko> In Linux you'd use dd
[3:42] <Rakko> I can't find nmcli in raspbian... hmm
[3:43] <Rakko> oh, it's in the package network-manager
[3:44] <Rakko> as you can maybe see I'm really new to this. I used to run Debian unstable full-time, but then I drifted into Macland for a number of years, and ended up with Ubuntu on my auxiliary Linux machine
[3:45] <tehcha> Rakko→ ty for the detailed information on all this ty!!!
[3:45] <tehcha> oh nice
[3:46] <tehcha> i use a spin-off of ubuntu myself
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[3:46] <tehcha> called trisquell it is basically the same as ubuntu just without any proprietary software
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[3:46] <tehcha> it's oen of those distros recomended by the fsf
[3:46] <tehcha> well at any rate ty
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[3:55] <Rakko> yeah
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[5:37] <RavenII> Does anyone know how I can find out what keeps using my disk once/second?
[5:37] <RavenII> The light keeps blinking once per second.
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[8:51] <Kestlah> I have no idea what I'm doing here
[8:52] <Kestlah> or how this happened
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[8:54] <Kestlah> Does anybody else dislike cryptic Christmas presents with cryptic plugin instructions?
[8:57] <Kestlah> nm. found help on a websearch
[8:58] <Kestlah> A bit worried about typing in commands I found on a webpage, but...Haha
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[9:07] <Kestlah> (fun gift but highly concerned)
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[9:18] <Geoton> Hello people!
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[9:31] <Kestlah> hi
[9:35] <Kestlah> Ok, getting most of my questions answered with goggle
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[12:28] <decci> Hello
[12:28] <decci> I want to test WIndows IoT core on Raspberry Pi 3
[12:29] <decci> Tried picking up my Windows 10 Laptop and installing Windows IoT dashboard but its not coming up well
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[12:29] <decci> Wonder why its not supporting Windows 8
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[12:55] <toofattokidnap> hi #raspbian
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[12:57] <toofattokidnap> I'm currently running Raspbian Lite with PIXEL on a Pi3. On a webpage, loaded in Chromium, there is a fullscreen JavaScript fade to green, then back to normal.
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[12:57] <toofattokidnap> On a small-ish screen (I think something like 25 inch), this looks just fine. The CPU shoots up to 15% (it idles at 1%) during the animation, but it looks fine.
[12:57] <Wizard> Hi
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[12:58] <toofattokidnap> However, when testing it on a larger TV (I thin something like 50 inch? i really dont have a feeling for these numbers), the animation looks a little 'janky-er', and the CPU flies up to 40%-ish
[12:58] <toofattokidnap> i'm not running anything else in the meantime
[12:58] <toofattokidnap> What's the reason for that?
[12:59] <toofattokidnap> is it because there's more pixel-related calculations, because it's a larger screen?
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[13:00] <toofattokidnap> i don't know very well how to describe the animation, but whereas it appears fluid on smaller screens, it seems more staggered. It's not very noticeable though
[13:00] <toofattokidnap> i was just wondering about the technical reasons for it
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[13:02] <Wizard> toofattokidnap: What kind of animation?
[13:03] <toofattokidnap> a full screen fade
[13:03] <Wizard> fullscreen fade of what? Sorry, I’ve just joined :)
[13:03] <toofattokidnap> basically the normal page is a grey webpage with some text, it fades to a completely green canvas (to visually confirm a succesful transaction), then fades back to the normal view
[13:03] <toofattokidnap> oh mein bad
[13:04] <sqvirrel> It's caused by hormones
[13:04] <toofattokidnap> wh-what sqvirrel
[13:04] <toofattokidnap> are you saying i need to inject some Test into my raspberry
[13:04] <toofattokidnap> hold on Wizard let me just quickly put it together in a pastie
[13:04] <sqvirrel> Sorry. Keep typing into wrong window
[13:05] <toofattokidnap> dat screen IRC experience
[13:05] <toofattokidnap> Wizard: [13:57] <toofattokidnap> I'm currently running Raspbian Lite with PIXEL on a Pi3. On a webpage, loaded in Chromium, there is a fullscreen JavaScript fade to green, then back to normal.
[13:05] <toofattokidnap> that's actually all the context right before you joined ;)
[13:07] <Wizard> Weird… but to be honest it can depend on how this fade happens.
[13:07] <toofattokidnap> i think it's a jquery call
[13:07] <Wizard> If it is some weird js custom code then it might depend on hardware. JS is resource heavy…
[13:07] <toofattokidnap> maybe i should see if i can implement it in vanilla JS?
[13:08] <Wizard> This is your code?
[13:08] <toofattokidnap> alrighty. i was looking into enabling hardware acceleration for chromium, hoping that might make up for it, but it doesn't look like that's really supported for now. Would it be better to go with Epiphany, perhaps it handles its JS better?
[13:08] <toofattokidnap> yep yep yep
[13:08] <toofattokidnap> well, i mean, 'mine' as in I can edit/modify all I want, but I don't know the internals of JQuery
[13:08] <Wizard> I’m not a web developer, sorry ;)
[13:09] <toofattokidnap> JQuery is just a JavaScript library that does a lot of things, one of them being nice fades/transitions
[13:09] <toofattokidnap> but ok, i'm going into too much detail i imagine
[13:09] <Wizard> Me neither. However, chromium should be ok on pi, it has nice ARM optimisations because they use the same js virtual machine on android.
[13:09] <toofattokidnap> ah really?
[13:10] <Wizard> Yes, V8
[13:10] <toofattokidnap> interesting
[13:10] <toofattokidnap> i see, ok cool
[13:10] <Wizard> https://developers.google.com/v8/
[13:10] <toofattokidnap> okidokes
[13:11] <toofattokidnap> well i'll give it a run with Epiphany just to satiate my own curiosity
[13:11] <toofattokidnap> thanks for the V8 link, interesting stuff
[13:12] <Wizard> Btw, as far as i remember css3 supports fading and such stuff, so better write proper css and use js only for logic
[13:12] <Wizard> But as I mentioned - I don’t do web, they still didn’t figure out the right way :P
[13:13] <toofattokidnap> oh my you're entirely right
[13:13] <toofattokidnap> it'd be amazing if i didn't have to load the whole of freaking JQuery just for a fade like that
[13:13] <Wizard> Of course.
[13:14] <toofattokidnap> now that is just dandy
[13:14] <toofattokidnap> a-mazing
[13:14] <Wizard> If you know css3 - yes :D
[13:14] <toofattokidnap> thanks for the tip imma get on that right now!
[13:14] <toofattokidnap> eh, i don't, but how hard can it be
[13:14] <toofattokidnap> thanks for the pointers!
[13:15] <Wizard> No big deal.
[13:17] <Wizard> Btw, I see that „raspbian pixel” is available for x86 as some kind of alpha. What about amd64? Any plans?
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[13:38] <avoozl> anyone know if there are any C-/C++ libs for PiFace Digital 2?
[13:38] <avoozl> oh, whops.. wrong channel
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[15:45] <wencs> One question, how can I safely restart a raspberry pi if the sshd service has crashed? (all other services seem to run ok)
[15:47] <Wizard> Whoops :)
[15:47] <Wizard> No idea
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[15:47] <wencs> I just don't want to unplug it... poor sd card :(
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[15:54] <PhotoJim> wencs: plug in a keyboard :)
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[15:55] <wencs> oh
[15:55] <wencs> true
[15:55] <wencs> brb
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[15:59] <wencs> Done, thanks!
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[16:53] <Wizard> PhotoJim: Three finger salute works?
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[16:59] <PhotoJim> Wizard: I usually just open a shell and "shutdown -r now" (or -h if you want to halt, not reboot"
[16:59] <PhotoJim> as root, or use sudo if needed
[17:00] <Wizard> Well, he mentioned "headless"
[17:00] <PhotoJim> ahh
[17:00] <decci> Anyone who tried installing Windows IoT on Raspberry Pi 3
[17:01] <PhotoJim> best solution there, for next time, is a serial console cable connected to another box
[17:01] <PhotoJim> I make sure none of my boxes is truly headless, they either have a display or they have a console connection to something else
[17:01] <Wizard> I still don't understand how sshd could crash…
[17:02] <PhotoJim> hardware failure is the most likely cause
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[20:59] <unitypunk> hey guys
[21:00] <unitypunk> if apt-get fails/ or hangs, what should you do immiadiatly after
[21:00] <unitypunk> sudo dphg --reconfigure -a?
[21:00] <unitypunk> *dpkg
[21:00] <unitypunk> i left my pi after doing upgrade
[21:01] <unitypunk> and now its hung up on "adding "diversion of blak blak blah rpikernelhack"
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[21:23] <unitypunk> or ill just leave it forever..
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[21:25] <acydlord> apt-get clean | apt-get upgrade -f
[21:25] <acydlord> dpkg --reconfigure -a would be good if that still doesnt fix it
[21:27] <unitypunk> thanks acydlord, just trying to go about things the right way
[21:27] <unitypunk> ;)
[21:28] <acydlord> and now sadly i must drive back to work
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[22:08] <unitypunk> holy jeez
[22:08] <unitypunk> acydlord, i left it alone and it finished 10 hours later -_-
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