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[1:23] <frodox> Can someone help me with gpio-button, please? I get 1(active) all the time, so all tutorials just don't work as expected =\ and I can't understand - should I connect button to gpio, or to 3v3.. it is mess in the head now
[1:30] <frodox> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=12538 are there any good tutorial for switches?
[1:30] <Quozl`> g'day. it worked for me, and i remember using the wrong pin for a while. what do you want to know?
[1:32] <frodox> Quozl`: I connected button as in tutorials, just to GND and to GPIO18 ( http://razzpisampler.oreilly.com/images/rpck_1101.png ) and it doesn't work (always 1). I want to know what should I do to get it working as expected..
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[1:33] <courrier> I want to flash N pis with Raspbian Jessie and run a bash script that changes hostname, creates a dedicated user "newuser" and download/install stuff into his homedir.
[1:33] <courrier> Most of them will be flash with a common hostname/username but some of them will require different names given during the execution of the setup script.
[1:33] <courrier> At the moment I am flashing the img file, manually login to the Pi as "pi" and run the script that creates "newuser". However this procedure has the following drawbacks:
[1:33] <courrier> 1) It still requires to a manual boot and login as pi before executing the setup script
[1:33] <courrier> 2) "pi" is still active after installing, the script is run by pi and thus can't delete the account itself
[1:33] <courrier> Creating a custom image is maybe overkill, I'd like to flash the SD from my workstation, and then run a script from the same workstation to update the SD image with the script, maybe by chrooting? But I still can't delete the user I'm using to run the script...
[1:33] <courrier> Have you got ideas about a nice procedure to speed up flashing a great number of Pis this way?
[1:35] <Quozl`> frodox: i'll just try it myself, hang on.
[1:36] <frodox> Quozl`: I'm looking this ones http://razzpisampler.oreilly.com/ch07.html , or https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gpio-zero-a-friendly-python-api-for-physical-computing/
[1:36] <frodox> ok
[1:39] <Quozl`> frodox: it worked for me, see http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/z/1cOaX3.txt ... at the time the 1 is returned, the switch is open, at the time the 0 is returned, the switch is closed.
[1:39] <Quozl`> frodox: are you doing something different?
[1:42] <frodox> Quozl`: no.. hmm.. I'm confused.. may be all my btns are broken.. :D erm, could you share a photo of your switch/pi connections..? I can't imagine what could be wrong
[1:43] <Quozl`> frodox: what i did functionally matches the picture on the page; make sure your button is inserted correctly; that kind of button can be rotated 90 degrees and not work. what if you connect the two wires together instead of to the button?
[1:44] <Quozl`> frodox: my quickest test is to connect a jumper from GND to 18.
[1:45] <Quozl`> frodox: in case pin 18 is fried by electrostatic discharge, you might try pin 17 instead. i've just tested this here, on an rpi3, and it worked okay too.
[1:47] <Quozl`> courrier: i want a similar procedure; including installing packages, but i'm still working on it. there are some image builders on github; search for raspbian and image. some are over my head.
[1:48] <frodox> Quozl`: hmmm... two wires (instead of button) works fine!!! But button rotation to 90 degree have no effect. And I have tested 3 different new buttons... And LED works just fine..
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[1:49] <Quozl`> frodox: led through the button, eh? interesting. share a photo of your setup? do you have a multimeter?
[1:49] <Quozl`> ... some dodgy buttons exist, but three at once is unlikely. ;-)
[1:50] <frodox> Quozl`: no, LED insted of button to same GPIO :D yup, one moment. Yes, I have
[1:51] <Quozl`> frodox: separate the button from the rpi, test it with the multimeter in beep mode, or resistance mode, you should get a reaction out of the meter.
[1:51] <frodox> Great idea, thanks!
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[2:05] <courrier> Quozl`: Yes I had a look to that, but generating a custom image, compiling, ... just seems overkill to me, I just need post-installing customization
[2:08] <Quozl`> me too.
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[2:28] <frodox> Quozl`: well, thank you very much, after 5 hours I get it working :D
[2:29] <frodox> looks like I'm too tired (05 am here), because my fault was.. epic http://imgur.com/pn4C6Px
[2:30] <EpicKitty> I really neeed to change my highlight
[2:30] <EpicKitty> for some reason, epic pings me
[2:31] <frodox> ah, sorry :D
[2:31] <EpicKitty> np lol. My client's fault
[2:36] <frodox> Are there any reasons not to use GPIOzero python library?
[2:36] <Quozl`> frodox: oh oh, that's a good one.
[2:36] <Quozl`> frodox: it is true that breadboards lack connection datasheets.
[2:37] <Quozl`> frodox: i don't know enough about GPIOzero to answer, sorry. it would depend on the application. e.g. for a button, whether it polls or uses an edge detector, and if it polls how frequent the polls are.
[2:40] <frodox> Quozl`: hmm, for example, looks like it has build-in fake-pressed detection, and so on. Ok, thank you :-)
[2:41] <Quozl`> frodox: cool.
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[3:15] <devslash> whenever i reboot raspbian, i have to manually login and do eth0 up and dhclient eth0 before networking works again is there a way to automate this so i dont have to manually do it ?
[3:20] <Quozl`> whenever i reboot raspbian, all that happens automatically for me. which version of raspbian is it you are using? mine is 2016-11-25-raspbian-jessie.zip
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[3:29] <humbag> me too, even with jessie-lite
[3:32] <Quozl`> are there stretch images yet?
[3:36] <humbag> erm
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[3:46] <frodox> erm, I have problem with camera now.. like `mmal: No data received from sensor. Check all connections, including the Sunny one on the camera board` .. have anyone succeed with that error ?
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[3:56] <Quozl`> frodox: sorry, i've not delved into the camera yet.
[3:57] <frodox> Quozl`: it works fine on my RP2 B2, and it is new RP3 for another project with same SD.. it is strange, I'll test it back again
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[4:00] <devslash> im install xorg on my psi for the first time and want to try the new pixel desktop. can i just install the packages mentioned here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37564&p=312573 without installing lxde?
[4:01] <devslash> I mean the new pixel desktop is its own wm right ?
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[4:30] <acydlord> its based on lxde
[4:31] <acydlord> you can try to get it up and runninng without the lxde packages, worst that will happen is it will gripe about depends
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[6:33] <echosystm> hi guys
[6:34] <echosystm> is there any way to use debootstrap from an x86 PC to make a custom raspbian image?
[6:34] <echosystm> i've done this many times for x86 computers, but never a pi
[6:39] <Quozl`> echosystm: i'm trying that right now. i've not found a way that is popular, and what i'm trying now is debootstrap.
[6:40] <Quozl`> echosystm: https://github.com/heinemml/build-raspbian-image is what i'm looking at right now, which is possibly a rpi based car audio system with a touchscreen ... not what i want, but i've removed those bits.
[6:41] <Quozl`> echosystm: the key in this, and in some other attempts, seems to be to use --foreign for debootstrap and allow qemu to emulate the arm for the second stage execution.
[6:41] <Quozl`> echosystm: i wish i know how raspberry pi foundation makes their raspbian images; then i'd just copy what they do.
[6:42] <echosystm> yeah
[6:42] <echosystm> i'm thinking i might just buy an external sd card reader and do the debootstrap from the pi itself
[6:43] <echosystm> that way i don't have to mess around with QEMU or serial etc
[6:43] <Quozl`> i'm doing that with a USB SDD at the moment.
[6:43] <Quozl`> then i'll need to copy the result onto an sd card.
[6:43] <echosystm> cool
[6:43] <echosystm> the bootloader is the main difference from an x86 pc right?
[6:44] <echosystm> i mean when i debootstrap for a normal PC, i just install grub and it's all done
[6:45] <Quozl`> well, that's because the pc firmware can't read the filesystem. on rpi, the firmware can read the filesystem, so is technically easier but just different.
[6:46] <Quozl`> grub shouldn't be needed, but pc industry can't be bothered it seems to use uefi extensively. ;-)
[6:46] <Quozl`> (uefi can read fat.)
[6:53] <echosystm> ok i gotta run but hopefully i can catch you on here another time and get you to explain this to me haha
[6:53] <echosystm> thanks
[6:53] <echosystm> cya
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[7:55] <ShorTie> there is my_pi_os that debootstrap for the pi, but must be run on a pi
[7:56] <ShorTie> it's a simple script
[7:57] <ShorTie> the foundation uses spindle to make there images
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[8:44] <jfil> hello
[8:45] <jfil> i wonder how smooth is raspbian with 1080 youtube videos
[8:45] <jfil> sorry for my english :(
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[8:47] <ShorTie> 720 is the best most get
[8:50] <jfil> thank you shortie, so 1080 is pixelated most time?
[8:50] <jfil> i mean with a raspberry pi 3, of course
[8:51] <lordievader> Don't think it is pixelated, but stuttery.
[8:51] <ShorTie> like just not enough usb bandwidth for 1080
[8:53] <jfil> bandwidth, really? I have read about openelec/libreelec/osmc and they say it's fine
[8:54] <jfil> i understand, lordievader
[8:54] <lordievader> You mentioned youtube ;) then yes, bandwith of the usb bus matters. The eth port shares its bandwith with the usb bus.
[8:55] <jfil> yes, i know that, but what about other os like libreelec?
[8:55] <jfil> are they most dedicated?
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[8:58] <Wizard> lordievader: What about wifi bandwith on pi?
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[9:03] <lordievader> Wizard: What about it?
[9:03] <Wizard> Never mind ;)
[9:03] <Wizard> Currently I need to fix resolution on my weird screen
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[9:30] <chisight> YouTube works best by downloading and playing the files in omxplayer, there is an android front end to simplify doing that called raspicast.
[9:32] <chisight> 1080p is no issue for omxplayer (and raspicast) with any pi, even the old ones or the pi zero.
[9:33] <Wizard> You run Android on pi?
[9:33] <chisight> Wizard: no.
[9:34] <chisight> i run android on my phone. it casts the YouTube to my pi and the bigscreen tv at 1080p.
[9:34] <chisight> once the video is started, the phone is no longer involved, it can even be turned off and the video keeps playing.
[9:35] <Wizard> Jesus… I’m wondering why someone would like to complicate life so much
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[9:36] <chisight> because chrome isn't accelerated and so youtube doesn't work in it very well.
[9:38] <chisight> it works quite well, i can even click a YouTube link in here and it pops up on the big screen. works even when I'm on the other side of the world from the tv.
[9:39] <chisight> (ok, I've never actually done it from more than a little over 1000 miles away)
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[16:32] <BoredSysadmin96> Ello
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[16:35] <BoredSysadmin96> Quick Question: I have a lamp that I want to turn on from 6am-8am and then again at 4pm-10pm obviously a relay but new to the pi scene any help?
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[16:40] <ChocolateTeapot> cron
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[16:50] <BoredSysadmin96> Cron?
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[16:51] <BoredSysadmin96> Oh dur why didnt I think of that...Thanks
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[20:59] <Quozl`> ShorTie: thanks. [re: build methods]
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[23:18] <b0n> im trying to add the pixel desktop to an existing installation but it says its unable to locate the packages
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[23:52] <acydlord> they have specific instructions on the raspbian blog for installing it on existing installs
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