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[0:54] <Phanes> what are benefits to using raspbian on pi3 over ubuntu for arm built out to a desktop system
[0:57] <ragedragon> all broadcom libraries for the pi
[0:57] <ragedragon> gpu/hdmi/cec/
[0:57] <ragedragon> and the pi specific kernel
[0:58] <ragedragon> pi cam...
[0:58] <ragedragon> so it is arch specific...
[0:59] <ragedragon> sound etc...
[0:59] <ragedragon> openmax...
[1:00] <ragedragon> so a lot of benefit...not only depending of the cpu arch..but more for the target device
[1:01] <ragedragon> except if ubuntu will release something using all stuff described above :)
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[1:04] <ShorTie> raspbian is optimized just for the pi
[1:10] <ragedragon> depending what you call "optimized"
[1:10] <ragedragon> for the cpu arch only, ubuntu is optimized on arch armv7hf and armv8
[1:10] <ragedragon> it is not the case for raspbian and all packages
[1:11] <ragedragon> raspbian was optimized only for the armv6hf as others distros based on debian were built for the arch armv7hf
[1:12] <ragedragon> now for the armv7hf and armv8 it is equal
[1:12] <ragedragon> except if you will not consider the lib optimizing the dma transfer on the pi MMU
[1:18] <ragedragon> (libc for the pi)
[1:29] <ragedragon> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=9260
[1:29] <ragedragon> if you are interested
[1:31] <ragedragon> it is related to the /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libcofi_rpi.so lib
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[4:55] <robsob|rpi> so i recently bought the 3.5in tft adafriuit screen
[4:55] <robsob|rpi> however the refresh rate is sucking, causing tearing
[4:55] <robsob|rpi> any advice?
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[5:41] <johngilbrough> I just reinstalled my Rasp 3 from NOOBS 2.0.0 and cannot do an apt-get on anything as it complains that I'm missing apt-transport-https (which I cannot apt-get, obviously). Does anyone experienced this and/or have a clue on how to fix it?
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[6:45] <robsob|rpi> johngilbrough: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[6:45] <robsob|rpi> if you see any https, change it to http
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[7:13] <johngilbrough> robsob|rpi, after 3 days of googling, I've tried everything including looking for any https - I'm starting from scratch with NOOBS.1.2...
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[7:15] <robsob|rpi> hm
[7:17] <robsob|rpi> johngilbrough: have you tried connecting it to ethernet and manually downloading apt-transport-https?
[7:17] <johngilbrough> yep - no luck
[7:17] <robsob|rpi> huh
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[10:15] <xcel_> test
[10:23] <wb7odyfred> hello xcel_ I test too! ;>)
[10:24] <xcel_> :>
[10:25] <wb7odyfred> Just booted up the Pixel OS on x86 PC. XCHAT Typing to you now
[10:26] <xcel_> dont get pixel os seems like a waste
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[11:11] <wb7odyfred> xcel_, Here is PIXEL DE addon for LxPupSC. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109326
[11:13] <wb7odyfred> xcel_, why you think it is a waste? I am using GhostBSD, TrueOS (former PCBSD), PuppyLinux, LinuxMint.com. All Good OS. I think PIXEL DE, will open eyes from thousands of Windows Desktop users interested in RaspberryPi to try Linux (ie PIXEL DE) on their x86 comptuer.
[11:14] <wb7odyfred> It has persistance, when booting from USB FLash drive.
[11:16] <wb7odyfred> hello all, anyone else using PIXEL DE on x86 here?
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[11:38] <wb7odyfred> hello ubizzy. zdravo ubizzy.
[11:41] <ChocolateTeapot> aarrrr
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[12:00] <xcel_> wb7odyfred: yeah true maybe'll get a few over from windows
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[12:08] <at0m> ,v pixel
[12:08] <judd> No package named 'pixel' was found in armhf.
[12:08] <at0m> don't know, only ssh here.
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[14:04] <mas886> After using Raspbian I've come to a question, why does Raspbian comes with that much non free software like vnc server (instead of tightvnc,etc) or Oracle JRE/JDK (instead of OpenJDK)?
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[14:44] <magic_ninja1> So guys, I'm wondering. My PI isn't booting to video. I was trying to power from a USB phone adapter. Could it be an issue of voltage and such?
[14:44] <magic_ninja1> It will turn on I'm just not getting video
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[14:50] <magic_ninja1> Found the problem. SD card came loose
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[14:57] <vidarlo> so I have raspbian 8. I want to compile a kernel module.
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[14:57] <vidarlo> I have ran rpi-update and rpi-source
[14:57] <vidarlo> I still get that damn armv7l missing.
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[14:57] <vidarlo> shoudn't rpi-source get the appropriate sources and prepare for me?
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[15:33] <diederik> vidarlo: use "ARCH=arm"
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[15:44] <vidarlo> diederik: D'oh
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[18:28] <gascon> I've been hapily running Raspbian on my very first Raspberry Pi 3 I bought some months ago
[18:28] <gascon> I'd like to make a tar back up of the entire system; I do this regularly in my Linux PC; is the process more or less the same in Raspbian? thanks
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[19:18] <c-pin> guys can i remote desktop znc on a pi2
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[19:20] <c-pin> or ssh i guess
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[19:35] <diederik> gascon: you can assume so
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[20:25] <RusAlex> gascon: if you install linux on your pi then you can use linux-way backups
[20:25] <RusAlex> surely
[20:30] <magic_ninja> this is the first time I used a pi
[20:30] <magic_ninja> it was really cool
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[20:31] <magic_ninja> upgraded the packages, installed vnc, got it on the network, used it's serial port to debug a botched router firmware install. I only had a 5V UART
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[21:23] <gascon> great!
[21:23] <gascon> I will try then
[21:23] <gascon> has anyone here successfully done that already'
[21:23] <gascon> ?
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[21:39] <mete> gascon: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=163589
[21:40] <mete> I use this variant, I restored it to another SD and it works perfectly.
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[21:40] <mete> but you should keep in mind, that file system changes in the time of the backup can corrupt files and or the entire filesystem
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[22:52] <gascon> I've failed in all my attempts to take a snapshot of the sd card, I am yet to figure out why; in my Linux PC I can tar back up and restore the system without issues
[22:52] <gascon> thanks mete
[22:52] <gascon> and thank you all
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[23:11] <CatcherInThePi> any recommendation for good pi torrent-client
[23:11] <CatcherInThePi> *?
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