#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-01-09

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[0:42] <chandwki> so I got the raspberry pi 3, dd'ed the latest raspbian jessie lite, and she boots but I can't seem to SSH to it
[0:43] <chandwki> I'm getting, "ssh: connect to host raspberrypi port 22: Connection refused"
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[0:49] <mete> chandwki: you have to create an empty file to enable ssh: /boot/ssh
[0:52] <chandwki> mete that worked!
[0:52] <chandwki> thanks, must be a recent change
[0:53] <mete> yes it is
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[0:53] <mete> I never had to create that file but I read it here ;)
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[5:33] <hal9k_> Hi! Im trying to set up a webserver at my rpi following this guide https://www.pestmeester.nl/ however php config fucks up, more information can be found here: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/60112/php-not-working-with-nginx help would be really appricated
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[6:30] <chisight> hmm, he left. nginx was a pain to get php to work with.
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[8:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[9:28] <longteng> hi
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[10:57] <vlt> I need a more than 2 GB big SD card nowadays for the latest Raspbian? Really?!?
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[11:09] <frodox> vlt, why do you so surprised?
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[11:11] <LiberalHippie> hi
[11:11] <LiberalHippie> i <3 peace
[11:11] <LiberalHippie> peace be unto all the niggers
[11:12] <LiberalHippie> we are the nigger-loving gang of peace
[11:24] <LiberalHippie> gordonDrogon, plugwash, themill, \\Mr_C\\, ^Richard, Acou_Bass, acydlord, AJ_Z0, Alynna, ams__, And1, andatche, andor2007, AndrewAlexMac, AndrewG, Archlyric, Arlenx, at0m:
[11:25] <LiberalHippie> atouk, atpa8a, avenger, avoozl, Awesomecase, azeam, Azelphur, azizLIGHT, babel, banekillgrind, bapalm, basisbit, bauruine, bazaar, BazookaTooth, beardy, Bercik, binaryhermit, blinky42, bolt:
[11:25] <LiberalHippie> bossjones, break3r, Brybry, bsdam, BurtyB, chandwki, chesty, chisight, ChocolateTeapot, chrisyy, CIAguy, clemensv, clonak, CME, cnky, ColdKeyboard, Colti:
[11:25] <LiberalHippie> cswang, culb, CyberJacob, Cybertinus, cyborg-one, Dadou, Dagger2, Dan-NS27, dano5, dcht00, devster31, diederik, distantorigin, diytto, dlech, Domin, DragonEmbers, Draylor, drjam:
[11:29] <drjam> yesh?
[11:30] <drjam> slightly wha
[11:31] <LiberalHippie> hey
[11:31] <LiberalHippie> drjam:
[11:31] <LiberalHippie> u sux dix for niggers, yes?
[11:34] <drjam> you hi or something
[11:34] <LiberalHippie> no
[11:34] <LiberalHippie> im a nigger on shrooms
[11:34] <LiberalHippie> does that make me high?
[11:35] <LiberalHippie> drtic1, drupol, dStruct, dteselkin_, dumle29, Echoz, edenist, edge226, esmiurium, ewook_, exoplanet, Fenhl, Fjorgynn, fkm, flipp, flying, frals, freanux, frikinz, frodox:
[11:35] <drjam> sigh. a troll. how do i mute people opnm here again?
[11:36] <LiberalHippie> drjam: are you an op, or are you asking about a client side ignore?
[11:36] <LiberalHippie> if you are an op in chanserv's list, try /msg chanserv op #raspbian
[11:36] <LiberalHippie> that should make you op up
[11:36] <LiberalHippie> then /mode #raspbian +q banmask
[11:37] <LiberalHippie> banmask can be one of a few things
[11:37] <LiberalHippie> *!*@my.ip.address
[11:37] <LiberalHippie> or LiberalHippie!*@*
[11:37] <LiberalHippie> you get the idea, drjam?
[11:37] <LiberalHippie> but its all pointless anywa
[11:38] <LiberalHippie> i would change the nick, use another free VPN server to change IP
[11:40] <LiberalHippie> funky1, fus, fyrril, gadget, galileopy, gardar, GekkePrutser, ghormoon, ghoti, gmh, Gr33n3gg, GreaseMonkey, gregoa, Guest45692, Guest54126, Guest73411, Guest85229, Guest89400, H4ndy, halvar:
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[11:40] <LiberalHippie> haudrauf, HerculeP, heroux, hideider, Hirnblaehung, Hobby, Hobbyboy, hphuhtin, hurricanehrndz, iamfrankenstein, idonob, iKarith, ikmaak, ikonia, isutoshi, jacekowski, jajah, jakllsch, jamesl, Janhouse:
[11:40] <LiberalHippie> jcv, jedix_, jelly, jfmcarreira, jgornick_, jje, jksM, joethei, john51_, johndev, johnnyfive, johskar, jstn, jticket, judd, Jusii, juul, k0nsl, kagu, Kamuela:
[11:41] <LiberalHippie> kapot, kcaj, Keksike_, kinopu, kipd, kkmic, klaatu, knittl, kolla, kraptv, ksx4system, lankanmon, LaserAllan, lau-, LaunchDirector, laurent\, laurittr, lazybear, ledixus, leio:
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[11:41] <LiberalHippie> lek, lemonzest, lenticularmother, LiberalHippie, lifeofguenter, lilwiz, liviud, lolx, lookshe, lool, lordievader, lungaro, lupinedk, m6lpi, machinaut, magic_ninja, Marchal, markelite, marshal0505, matthias-:
[11:42] <LiberalHippie> mB-PiBox, MeanEYE, meinside, metalwinter, mete, meti, mike_t, mikeiniowa, Milhouse, MooseCore, Mortumm__, mpmc, Mr-G, MrPlop, mrz, muelli, musnik, Muzer, mycel, n2deep:
[11:42] <LiberalHippie> n4mu, nadir, nepochal, nethershaw, netsin, ngladitz, nickdastain, Niclas-, nicoulaj, Nik05, nikomo, nils_2, niska`, niston, NoCode, nubcake_, Obi-Wan, obli-AWAY, OliveSage, olivier1:
[11:42] <LiberalHippie> Olufunmilayo, on1x, os23, osx, outofsorts, p0ly3d3r, pelle2_, peppis, percY-, Phanes, Phil_G, philamonster, PhotoJim, phryk, pingaan, pitastrudl, pleia2, pog, praest76, pragmatism:
[11:42] <meti> ...
[11:42] <LiberalHippie> procyon, puzzola, pwillard, pyllyukk1, Qatz, QuarkMan, Quozl`, R0CKST3R, r0kc4t, r3, rafaeldelucena, RaspbianLogBot, ravustaja, rawtaz, rdz, redrabbit, rektide, Requit, riddle, risc:
[11:42] <LiberalHippie> meti: ...
[11:42] <LiberalHippie> 8===D dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix dix 8===D
[11:43] <LiberalHippie> rlange, Robby, root-, RusAlex, ryan-c, Screak42, Seven_Six_Two, ShadowJK_, Shmio, shootbird, ShorTie, shtirlic, siruf, sjefen6, Skaag, skylite, SleePy, slippin_jimmy00, smeert, soehnke1:
[11:43] <ikmaak> hmm. LA people must really be irritating
[11:43] <LiberalHippie> Sonar_Guy, spacedentist, Spec, spinningmonkey, spinza, spm_draget, Sprocks, sptnx, squarecircle, Stanto, stealthii, stooj, stray77, superkulak, supermike_, superslacker, svetlemodry:
[11:43] <LiberalHippie> what?
[11:43] <LiberalHippie> are you hinting that you know my location? wrong state, fucker
[11:43] <LiberalHippie> VPN
[11:43] <LiberalHippie> SwK, swym, Tachaway, tapout, teclo-, teej, TeleMonster, Telvana, th3g1z, thalos_, theresajayne, TheSilentLink, thurstylark, trn, troyt, trqx, tru_tru, Tsesarevich, tuor, tuvok:
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[11:44] <LiberalHippie> tvaz, twolife, Uber, ubizzy_, Uninstall, unitypunk, unixabg, UskoKuukka, UskoKyyk1a, uuair, valvin, varac_, varesa, vesim, vincent_c, vlt, VoidFox, Vorpal, vrishab, wally_:
[11:44] <Tachaway> oh, a troll
[11:44] <LiberalHippie> WebDawg, wildc4rd, WinstonSmith, Wizard, WoodLeg, wvdakker__, xcel-, xcel_, XpineX, xRule, xtort-, xurizaemon, yosefk_, YoY, Yybel, z1mme, Zachary_DuBois, Zambezi, zleslie:
[11:44] <Tachaway> in a raspbian channel
[11:44] <ikmaak> does not matter, this is self-incrimination. love!
[11:44] <LiberalHippie> Tachaway: no, a spammer
[11:44] <LiberalHippie> i am not a troll
[11:44] <Tachaway> the two are not mutually exclusive
[11:44] <LiberalHippie> i have awakened the channel
[11:45] <ikmaak> good work etc
[11:45] <LiberalHippie> and now i shall masturbate to pics of Selena Gomez spreading her legs in a bikini
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[11:45] <Tachaway> what, run out of pics of your mum?
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[11:46] <LiberalHippie> incest is not funny
[11:46] <LiberalHippie> it is a very serious matter. In america it is strictly off - limits but in England it is a part of their culture
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[11:46] <ikmaak> don't worry, the pic will not get pregnant
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[11:47] <LiberalHippie> oh good
[11:47] <LiberalHippie> kline, ikmaak is the nickspammer i reported
[11:47] <LiberalHippie> it stopped already
[11:47] <kline> LiberalHippie, http://plugwash.raspbian.org/logs/index.php?date=2017-01-09
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[11:47] <LiberalHippie> oh fuck
[11:49] -LiberalHippie- i apologize for the nickspam and for kline being here and annoying people now
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[12:06] <windless> hi, I am thinking about making a small iot setup from scratch
[12:06] <windless> Plan is to make my own Simple event dispatcher and run it on pi
[12:07] <windless> now i am brushing up socket pogramming
[12:07] <windless> I am clear on how o setup the client server seup
[12:07] <windless> just
[12:07] <windless> i am a bit lost
[12:08] <windless> I am thinking using pi to open and close the connection on my switchboard
[12:08] <windless> which will in turn control the fan and lights and anything connected to he board
[12:09] <windless> any advice how to approach it?
[12:09] <windless> what things i will need?
[12:09] <windless> or is it possible the way i am thinking?
[12:10] <drjam> sounds like fun either way
[12:10] <drjam> im still learning too
[12:10] <windless> i have zero experiance with pi
[12:10] <windless> still havnt bought it
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[12:10] <windless> will buy in few days
[12:11] <windless> trying to get the basic event dispatching server setup
[12:11] <windless> how u control switches with pi?
[12:12] <windless> like
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[12:12] <windless> can we control physical switchboard switches anyhow with pi?
[12:12] <windless> anything can be done i understand
[12:13] <windless> so need a bit direction how to go about it
[12:14] <windless> all zombies here :3
[12:14] <windless> hibernating :3
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[12:15] <lordievader> windless: Start with a simple echo example, I suppose. And build from there.
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[12:26] <windless> lordievader: hi, yes I am going that way only.. I can keep track of multiple clients and authenticate new ones.
[12:26] <windless> I am a bit lost on hardware thing
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[12:27] <windless> How to attach pi to physical switch
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[12:27] <windless> is there extra hardwares needed?
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[12:28] <lordievader> As in prick a cable?
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[12:47] <nakarn> clear
[12:47] <nakarn> screexit
[12:48] <nakarn> that was ... interesting. ssh'ed into my pi to try and use screen & irssi to work
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[13:26] <vlt> windless: A Raspbery Pi has GPIO ports to connect stuff to.
[13:26] <windless> ok reading about it
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[13:30] <windless> vlt: thanks, so a simple circuit setup with a fuse to protect pi, to control the main powerboard switches will work?
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[13:31] <windless> I am getting a feel this is not very scalable
[13:31] <windless> like if theres 5 gpio pin pairs
[13:31] <windless> i can atmost get 5 switches controlled by it
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[13:42] <vlt> windless: This is where multiplexing or shift registers are possible solutions.
[13:44] <vlt> windless: Shift registers can be chained.
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[13:46] <Dan-NS27x> I just found out about raspi-gpio. when running, it shows up to 53 GPIOs. Is there a reference that shows what they all are? (USB, HDMI, etc.?). I've been looking but haven't found one yet.
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[13:58] <vlt> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#General_purpose_input-output_.28GPIO.29_connector
[14:01] <Dan-NS27x> I've seen plenty of the GPIO Pinout charts, but the output of raspi-gpio is showing more than what's on the GPIO connector.
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[14:05] <jakllsch> Dan-NS27x: many of those potential pins aren't wired out
[14:05] <jakllsch> or are shared with necessary on-board devices
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[14:06] <Dan-NS27x> so my idea is to see where GPIO32/33 or 36/37 can be switched to ALT 2 or 3 respectively to TXD0/RXD0
[14:06] <Dan-NS27x> jakllsch, thanks
[14:06] <Dan-NS27x> that's what I'm trying to figure out is if they're associated or not
[14:09] <Dan-NS27x> just found this, that seems to have links to part of what I'm looking for http://elinux.org/RPi_BCM2835_GPIOs
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[14:13] <Toinou> Bonjour, Hi,
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[14:20] <smojphace> Hi, apt-get dist-upgrade just clobbered my running kernels lib/modules.. anything I can do to prevent that?
[14:20] <smojphace> (Other than reboot)?
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[14:29] <GekkePrutser> Dan-NS27x: Yeah unfortunately the second UART is not wired out. Wish it was. I was surprised they didn't include those pins when they added extra GPIO on the B+
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[14:32] <Dan-NS27x> yeah, it could be really useful.
[14:33] <Dan-NS27x> that page I linked shows something called "Compute Module" which I haven't seen before. Apparently the extra pinouts can be available with that but requires additional development.
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[14:51] <Dan-NS27x> looks like the compute module could be about the size of a Pi Zero https://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/CM_and_pi-small-500x375.jpeg
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[15:45] <Skippy_42> Hey guys, does anybody know a source where I can see all the different raspbian versions and what kernel versions they use?
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[16:59] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Really quick question just ordered a pi 3 B and https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0151F3A9Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[16:59] <DeepTroubleMaybe> it needs 5v to trigger relay...did I order the wrong relay board?
[17:01] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Never messed with a pi before only Onion's Omega...
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[17:05] <DeepTroubleMaybe> But since this being for work I don't have time to wait for an omega to come from overseas..
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[17:07] <chisight> yes, to trigger a 5v relay will need a transistor. if you want to do this without additional components, you got the wrong thing.
[17:08] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Okay...what is the right thing?
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[17:11] <chisight> one designed for a pi or other 3v3 system with limited current capabilities.
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[17:13] <DeepTroubleMaybe> OKay thanks...
[17:14] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Do they make one channel relay for pi? Im not seeing any on amazon
[17:15] <chisight> the infamous "they" make everything.
[17:17] <chisight> I've never used a relay, i prefer triacs to switch high voltage ac.
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[17:24] <DeepTroubleMaybe> I need to provide power to an outlet (essentially) so what would be the best way to do that. It only stays on for 10s at a time
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[17:25] <chisight> my choice is a triac controlled by a zero cross optotriac.
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[17:27] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Im not an electronics guy just and It Tech/Software dev. I have no idea what you just said...sorry
[17:27] <DeepTroubleMaybe> an* not and
[17:28] <chisight> DeepTroubleMaybe: 3 components wired up. resistor, zerocross optotriac and a triac sized for your load.
[17:35] <DeepTroubleMaybe> super confused...using what I stupidly bought before asking questions. I need a transistor between the relay and the pi?
[17:39] <mycel> DeepTroubleMaybe: send it back, I guess?
[17:44] <chisight> DeepTroubleMaybe: yes, a transistor is needed to control a 5V device with a pi. you need an npn type with enough current capability to handle your device. and a resistor to limit current to the transistor's base.
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[17:54] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Would something like this work? https://smile.amazon.com/SunFounder-Channel-Optocoupler-Expansion-Raspberry/dp/B00E0NTPP4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1483984371&sr=8-4&keywords=pi+relay+board
[17:55] <mycel> DeepTroubleMaybe: https://vimeo.com/114928439
[17:56] <chisight> DeepTroubleMaybe: sure, but you'd still need a transistor to run that. it needs too much current.
[17:58] <DeepTroubleMaybe> So...theres no relay board that just sits nicely on the pi and just works?
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[17:59] <mycel> what do you want to drive, DeepTroubleMaybe?
[18:00] <DeepTroubleMaybe> A single outlet its a shop buzzer that when the outlet is switched on buzzer sounds til power is switched off
[18:00] <chisight> DeepTroubleMaybe: i'm sure there are lots of them.
[18:01] <chisight> DeepTroubleMaybe: note, the latest link you show would burn out the gpio pins if wired as they show.
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[18:04] <mycel> DeepTroubleMaybe: I'd say you have to go the transistor route... sry for my earlier advice (don't listen to me haha)
[18:06] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Okay so lets look at something the Omega 2 by Onion.io I have one with a power board and relay expansion would that work?
[18:06] <DeepTroubleMaybe> or is that going to blow my gpio on my omega 2?
[18:06] <mycel> hah, mine is coming this month hopefully. I would say: of course since they are sending out packages that work 100% together
[18:07] <chisight> i'm not familiar with that product.
[18:07] <mycel> I suppose they put a transistor on the power expansion relais
[18:07] <DeepTroubleMaybe> I got mine last month. Its nice but havent really done much with it...
[18:08] <DeepTroubleMaybe> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/omega2-5-linux-computer-with-wi-fi-made-for-iot#/ chisight
[18:10] <mycel> DeepTroubleMaybe: http://www.piface.org.uk/shop/#piface_relay_plus found one
[18:10] <chisight> still not familiar with it. a link doesn't make me familiar. you'll have to look at how much current it's I/O pins can source. (the latest amazon link needed to source 15mA to 20mA per pin.
[18:10] <chisight> the omega2 can't run raspbian so is really off topic in here.
[18:11] <mycel> but it's like 30 bucks haha
[18:13] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Okay so ontopic chisight then... do you have a link to a wiring guide for the thing I bought the first link?
[18:13] <chisight> no
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[18:17] <DeepTroubleMaybe> This is what I found but they dont show a transistor...
[18:17] <DeepTroubleMaybe> https://www.sunfounder.com/learn/sensor-kit-v2-0-for-raspberry-pi-b-plus/lesson-4-relay-module-sensor-kit-v2-0-for-b-plus.html
[18:19] <chisight> yep, they don't. doesn't mean it's going to work at all or if it does that it will work for very long.
[18:20] <DeepTroubleMaybe> So help me out using that diagram can you show me where the transistor and resistor would go?
[18:20] <DeepTroubleMaybe> I'm sorry but I'm a visual learner
[18:21] <chisight> the npn transistor base connects to the gpio through a 2.2K resistor.
[18:21] <chisight> the transistor emitter goes to ground.
[18:22] <chisight> the transistor source goes to 5V through a resistor sized to supply the unknown current that the relay needs.
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[18:23] <chisight> s/source/collector/
[18:23] <chisight> the relay input also goes to the transistor collector.
[18:24] <chisight> the transistor needs to be sized such that it will handle the unknown current needed by the relay.
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[18:25] <chisight> generally, you buy transistors rated for double the intended current.
[18:25] <chisight> you will also need a protection diode across the coil. these are often included in relay boards, but if one is not provided, add it.
[18:26] <iKarith> Unless you work for Wun Hung Lo, in which case you buy transistors rated for exactly the current you expect to run through them, bias them with rusty resistors, and put the whole thing together with hot glue.
[18:26] <iKarith> And hopefully your product doesn't catch fire or something. :P
[18:27] <iKarith> (stick with the rated for more than you need, it's a good practice.)
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[18:28] <chisight> ^^^ yes, always. this is why we don't buy from Wun Hung Lo, unless we know exactly what the limitations are and how to work with them.
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[18:30] <chisight> DeepTroubleMaybe: correction, that last link you sent does have a transistor. it's a completely different board from the one you linked earlier.
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[18:38] <redrabbit> hi
[18:39] <redrabbit> how can i double boot on the pi3
[18:39] <chisight> iKarith: the tutorial relay module apparently wasn't made by Wun Hung Lo, the transistor is rated 500mA and the relay 89mA. they even included a flyback diode rated .9A and 40V.
[18:39] <redrabbit> and be able to select OS to boot to from currently booted OS (headless)
[18:40] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Chisight which link sorry?
[18:41] <chisight> DeepTroubleMaybe: https://www.sunfounder.com/learn/sensor-kit-v2-0-for-raspberry-pi-b-plus/lesson-4-relay-module-sensor-kit-v2-0-for-b-plus.html
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[18:41] <chisight> that's a completely different module from anything you linked on amazon.
[18:42] <DeepTroubleMaybe> 0.o so thats not this https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0151F3A9Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[18:42] <chisight> assuming the module they sell actually matches the module pictured and the components aren't fakes, it seems to be fairly well made.
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[18:43] <chisight> DeepTroubleMaybe: yes, that looks like the one in the tutorial.
[18:44] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Okay
[18:44] <DeepTroubleMaybe> thanks for all the help and sorry for the headache I may have caused
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[18:45] <chisight> unfortunately the amazon photo has been blurred, so i can't be sure. the part numbers were barely readable on the tutorial and are not readable at all on the amazon link.
[18:50] <DeepTroubleMaybe> okay
[18:51] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Next question do I really need an rpi3 for this I mean itll just run cron would a pi zero be better?
[18:54] <chisight> depends on what the cron job is doing. it all seems overkill to me for a buzzer.
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[18:56] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Well if you saw what we have now... A fake printer that triggers a relay and timer then timer shuts relay and then tells the fake printer job done. and its controlled by a unix server
[18:57] <DeepTroubleMaybe> http://pastebin.com/y42cdxn0 <-cron job
[18:57] <DeepTroubleMaybe> then ring.sh would be the method for switching relay on sleeping 10s then switching it off
[18:58] <chisight> lol
[18:58] <DeepTroubleMaybe> What?
[18:58] <chisight> all this to run the break bell.
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[18:59] <mycel> I suppose what you do could be done with a 10 cent atmega? :E
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[18:59] <DeepTroubleMaybe> Yeah...don't get me started our one shop has been without one for like 6 months now and they dont care our other shop is pissed when theres dosent ring on the exact second
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[19:02] <chisight> attiny, but that's a different channel too.
[19:03] <DeepTroubleMaybe> lol
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[19:04] <_Bored_Sysadmin_> guess i can use my actual account now
[19:04] <[ITN]Le_Chat> Hello, I wanted to install open365 on my Piserver with Raspbian. Is it possible ?
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[20:22] <redrabbit> what would you use to make a double raspbian boot
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[20:50] <Skippy_42> Did someone manage to put the RTAI realtime kernel into a raspbian OS on the pi?
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[21:11] <redrabbit> boot with two different rasbian install ShorTie
[21:11] <at0m> redrabbit: noobs and berryboot are multi-boot loaders
[21:12] <ShorTie> by changing cmdline.txt, you can boot as many as partitions you have
[21:12] <at0m> ShorTie: oh, that simple =)
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[21:58] <redrabbit> ShorTie: great !
[21:58] <redrabbit> that's the kind of solution i'm looking for
[21:59] <redrabbit> do you have a how-to to recommand ?
[21:59] <redrabbit> or documentation about it
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[22:00] <redrabbit> if its just a simple line to change that would certainly be better than using berryboot and stuf
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[22:06] <redrabbit> ShorTie: do i have to change root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 to p3 / p4 …
[22:06] <redrabbit> ?
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[22:45] <hal9k_> Hi! I Cannot get php5 working with nginx at my raspberry pi3. Anyone who can help me and maybe look my config file through? Wold be really appriciated.
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[23:15] <m6lpi> hal9k_: explain what you did and what doesn't worm
[23:15] <m6lpi> Work
[23:18] <hal9k_> I got a question in the raspberry pi stack overflow, and someone tried to help me, so i done alot more than the original guide where i failed at step 8.5 https://www.pestmeester.nl/i
[23:19] <hal9k_> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/60112/php-not-working-with-nginx
[23:19] <hal9k_> They guy who tried to help me, gave up i guess xD
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[23:30] <hal9k_> Anyone know where I should seek help about it? It doesnt look like the raspberry pi Stackexchange is super active.
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[23:41] <muelli> hal9k_: do you have logs?
[23:42] <muelli> ah. you're done already. fair enough
[23:43] <hal9k_> Yeah! But If you can find a email for pestmeester.nl, then i would be glad. I would like to send the edit and some other stuff to the host of the site.
[23:43] <muelli> webmaster@ usually works
[23:43] <hal9k_> Maybe he got a grab all mail by the domain, the guide is atleast setting up a mail account
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[23:50] <hal9k_> Anyone here got experience with nextcloud? :)
[23:50] <hal9k_> And the rpi3

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